More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby bjd5211 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 3:58 pm

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What's going on with Swift? 1 Carry and 3 receptions in the 1st half
He hurt his shoulder last game, plus Georgia hasn't really had any extended drives and is playing catchup.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby mild » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:42 pm

bjd5211 wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 3:58 pm
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Sat Dec 07, 2019 3:53 pm
What's going on with Swift? 1 Carry and 3 receptions in the 1st half
He hurt his shoulder last game, plus Georgia hasn't really had any extended drives and is playing catchup.
But also, Swift is trash, and should definitely only be the 5th best RB taken at best. Terrible RB. Definitely overrated, and not doing ANYTHING against a proper NFL-calibre defense in LSU. BUST ALERT!

:pray: :pray: :pray:

(Everyone picking later than 1.03 next year should get on the prayer train for this one)

(Heavy sarcasm here if anyone basic is still wondering)

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby PTW32 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:49 pm

bjd5211 wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 3:58 pm
PTW32 wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 3:53 pm
What's going on with Swift? 1 Carry and 3 receptions in the 1st half
He hurt his shoulder last game, plus Georgia hasn't really had any extended drives and is playing catchup.
Its gotta be more injury than gameflow i would think since Georgia has 14 carries and he only has 1 of them. Which is a bummer, I was looking forward to seeing him against the LSU defence
10 Team PPR
QB, 2RB, 3WR, 2TE, 3Flex

QB: Lamar Jackson, Aaron Rodgers, Jameis Winston
RB: Dalvin Cook, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Royce Freeman, TJ Yeldon, Darwin Thompson, Alexander Mattison, Traveon Williams, Miles Gaskin, Bryce Love,
WR: Odell Beckham Jr., Chris Godwin, Kenny Golladay, Tyler Boyd, Larry Fitzgerald, Jamison Crowder, Keke Coutee, Miles Boykin, Equanimeous St. Brown, Josh Doctson, Antonio Callaway
TE: Travis Kelce, George Kittle, Evan Engram, Kahale Warring

2020 Picks: none


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QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 3Flex, 1K
QB: Baker Mayfeild, Drew Lock, Big Ben, Tom Brady
RB: Dalvin Cook, Derek Henry, Alexander Mattison, Peyton Barber, Justin Jackson
WR: Stefan Diggs, Allen Robinson, Cortland Sutton, DK Metcalf, Adam Thelien, TreQuan Smith, Diontae Johnson, Dante Pettis, Andy Isabella, Albert Wilson, Adam Humphries
TE: Mark Andrews, Jace Sternberger, Vance McDonald, Irv Smith Jr, Hayden Hurst, Delanie Walker

2020 Picks: 1.01,1.03, 1.09

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby nathanq42 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:37 pm

Looks like ceedee lamb had himself a game. He look the part? I feel like Baylor's D is trash based on program reputation
12 Team 1 ppr .2 points per carry
Garbage
QB Jimmy Garoppolo, Jared Goff, Nick Foles, Gardner Minshew
RB Rashaad Penny, Austin Ekeler, Royce Freeman, Jerrick McKinnon, Justice Hill
WR Mike Evans, Odell Beckham Junior, DJ Moore, Dede Westbrook, Parris Campbell, Preston Williams, Zach Parscal, James Washington, Hakeem Butler
TE TJ Hockenson, Darren Waller, Jacob Hollister
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Swift, Dobbins, Akers, Miles Sanders DeVonta Freeman
Evans, DJ Moore, Sutton, Arob, AJ Brown, Metcalf, Marvin Jones, Shepard, Tate, Westbrook, Campbell
Mark Andrews, Darren Waller
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No 2021 1st or 3rd

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby bjd5211 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:05 pm

nathanq42 wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:37 pm
Looks like ceedee lamb had himself a game. He look the part? I feel like Baylor's D is trash based on program reputation
Nah, Baylor's D is pretty good, especially by Big-12 standards. Lamb is just legit, I didn't see the whole game but his first touch he took a 10 yard out route like 60 yards fighting off tacklers the entire way.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby AussieMate » Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:27 pm

mild wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:42 pm
bjd5211 wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 3:58 pm
PTW32 wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 3:53 pm
What's going on with Swift? 1 Carry and 3 receptions in the 1st half
He hurt his shoulder last game, plus Georgia hasn't really had any extended drives and is playing catchup.
But also, Swift is trash, and should definitely only be the 5th best RB taken at best. Terrible RB. Definitely overrated, and not doing ANYTHING against a proper NFL-calibre defense in LSU. BUST ALERT!

:pray: :pray: :pray:

(Everyone picking later than 1.03 next year should get on the prayer train for this one)

(Heavy sarcasm here if anyone basic is still wondering)
Swift and Lamb are the most overrated players in 10+ yrs, I pray they don't fall to my 4th and 7th pick. I would just so upset by that development.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby mild » Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:32 pm

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Taylor, I haven't seen as much of, but from what I have seen he appears to be more of a speed/power guy. I have more concern about how he projects. Is he going to make guys miss consistently? If not, he's gonna have to be a power guy. If he's gonna be a power guy, does he have homerun speed? I don't know, but if he's a power guy without homerun speed then I'm concerned. If he blows away the combine though, then he's a no brainer, because great athletic testing with that production seems like a can't miss.

I really agree w/the last point. With tape focused people, it may just be a cherry on top, but for me, the combine alongside the marketshare production #'s, breakout age, that sorta thing are going to be the most decisive pieces for me. So in that sense, Taylor can still snag 1.01, and I would argue that if Taylor is the 1.02, is it really that big of drop in a RB class like this? Also worth noting that after disappointing in some big games last year, a guy like Dobbins has also had a monster counting stats year and unlike Taylor, hasn't had any dips in big games (I'll grant, Taylor's only really had the one bad game against a quality side, but Dobbins has showed up huge in all 3 big Ohio State games and Taylor was largely his least effective self against Minnesota, and Ohio State (was huge against Michigan though)).
Only 5 minutes into the first quarter today, but impressive opening statements from both backs...

Taylor's 40 yard TD was home-run speed all the way. He looks every part the "best back in the class" so far, especially given the last thing we'll remember of Swift was a (injury hampered blowout loss) dud.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Forza_Azzurri » Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:53 pm

I guess that Etienne TD was just more shitty ACC tackling rather than a stud RB with speed who can also run through arm tackles ... because there’s never arm tackles in the NFL.

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|QB| J. Allen, D. Carr, D. Lock, E. Stick (taxi)
|RB| A. Kamara, J. Jacobs, J. Mixon, L. Murray, R. Anderson (IR)
|WR| C. Godwin, D.J. Moore, D.K. Metcalf, M. Gallup, , J. Ross, Da. Moore
|TE| J. Hollister, M. Gesicki, K. Rudolph, T. Eifert, I. Thomas, M. LaCosse, R. Gronkowski
|K| B. Maher
|DT| S. Richardson, Q. Williams, T. Bryan, T. Hill (taxi)
|DE| J. Clowney, Y. Ngakoue, J. Pierre-Paul, D. Barnett, T. Charlton, E. Ansah, A. Key (IR), J. Sweat (taxi)
|LB| L. Vander Esch, D. Trevathan, C. Holcomb, N. Gerry, M. Kendricks, S. Dion Hamilton, S. Ebukam, T.J. Edwards, M. Jefferson, V. Joseph (IR), R. Foster (IR), K. Beckwith (IR), D. Cole (IR), S. Eguavoen (taxi)
|CB| S. Gilmore, M. Peters, D. Trufant, G. Conley, B. Jones, G. Haley
|S| M. Fitzpatrick, T. Walker, X. Woods, E. Thomas, E. Murray
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Lumps » Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:55 pm

mild wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:32 pm
stoneghost28 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:25 am
PR0v3 wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:36 pm
Taylor, I haven't seen as much of, but from what I have seen he appears to be more of a speed/power guy. I have more concern about how he projects. Is he going to make guys miss consistently? If not, he's gonna have to be a power guy. If he's gonna be a power guy, does he have homerun speed? I don't know, but if he's a power guy without homerun speed then I'm concerned. If he blows away the combine though, then he's a no brainer, because great athletic testing with that production seems like a can't miss.

I really agree w/the last point. With tape focused people, it may just be a cherry on top, but for me, the combine alongside the marketshare production #'s, breakout age, that sorta thing are going to be the most decisive pieces for me. So in that sense, Taylor can still snag 1.01, and I would argue that if Taylor is the 1.02, is it really that big of drop in a RB class like this? Also worth noting that after disappointing in some big games last year, a guy like Dobbins has also had a monster counting stats year and unlike Taylor, hasn't had any dips in big games (I'll grant, Taylor's only really had the one bad game against a quality side, but Dobbins has showed up huge in all 3 big Ohio State games and Taylor was largely his least effective self against Minnesota, and Ohio State (was huge against Michigan though)).
Only 5 minutes into the first quarter today, but impressive opening statements from both backs...

Taylor's 40 yard TD was home-run speed all the way. He looks every part the "best back in the class" so far, especially given the last thing we'll remember of Swift was a (injury hampered blowout loss) dud.
Georgia will still play in a bowl game....
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby cantguardjake » Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:06 pm

I think at this stage Taylor is the only back with a chance of being drafted in the first round of the NFL draft.

Early predictions:

Taylor - late first to early second
Swift - early to mid second
Etienne - early to mid second
Dobbins - mid second to early third
Edwards-Helaire - third (size is the issue, he’s actually good)
Akers - third to early fourth
Hill - late third to fourth
Moss - fourth

Hubbard looks like a day 3 prospect to me and no one else is worth mentioning.

All pending their measurables at the combine of course.
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby bjd5211 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:08 pm

Lumps wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:55 pm
Georgia will still play in a bowl game....
Doesn’t mean Swift will, and he shouldn't.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby mild » Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:10 pm

bjd5211 wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:08 pm
Lumps wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:55 pm
Georgia will still play in a bowl game....
Doesn’t mean Swift will, and he shouldn't.
Agreed, but also thanks. The complete CFB layout is still pretty confusing to me, an international poster - this is the first year I've truly tried to pay attention all season 8-)

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby nathanq42 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:14 pm

mild wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:10 pm
bjd5211 wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:08 pm
Lumps wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:55 pm
Georgia will still play in a bowl game....
Doesn’t mean Swift will, and he shouldn't.
Agreed, but also thanks. The complete CFB layout is still pretty confusing to me, an international poster - this is the first year I've truly tried to pay attention all season 8-)
It makes no sense honestly...
12 Team 1 ppr .2 points per carry
Garbage
QB Jimmy Garoppolo, Jared Goff, Nick Foles, Gardner Minshew
RB Rashaad Penny, Austin Ekeler, Royce Freeman, Jerrick McKinnon, Justice Hill
WR Mike Evans, Odell Beckham Junior, DJ Moore, Dede Westbrook, Parris Campbell, Preston Williams, Zach Parscal, James Washington, Hakeem Butler
TE TJ Hockenson, Darren Waller, Jacob Hollister
+1 Flex
Picks
1.01, 1.04, 1.05, 1.07, 1.09
2 2021 firsts (both mid to late)

10 Team .5 PPR
Wentz, Brees, Stafford
Swift, Dobbins, Akers, Miles Sanders DeVonta Freeman
Evans, DJ Moore, Sutton, Arob, AJ Brown, Metcalf, Marvin Jones, Shepard, Tate, Westbrook, Campbell
Mark Andrews, Darren Waller
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No 2021 1st or 3rd

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby mild » Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:40 pm

nathanq42 wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:14 pm
mild wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:10 pm
bjd5211 wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:08 pm


Doesn’t mean Swift will, and he shouldn't.
Agreed, but also thanks. The complete CFB layout is still pretty confusing to me, an international poster - this is the first year I've truly tried to pay attention all season 8-)
It makes no sense honestly...
Yes, I have noticed that! :lol:

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:37 pm

Forza_Azzurri wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:53 pm
I guess that Etienne TD was just more shitty ACC tackling rather than a stud RB with speed who can also run through arm tackles ... because there’s never arm tackles in the NFL.
There obviously is, but Taylor>Etienne IMO. I'd take Swift over Etienne as well.
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