More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby ravn88 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:46 pm

How are people feeling after Dobbins killed Michigan
4 TDs crazy.

Is he not near tier 1 ?
Team 1 : 1QB 2RB 3 WR 1TE 1Flex 1K 1TM 2 IR 12 Keepers

QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle

Team 2: 1QB 1 SF 3RB 5WR 2TE 2FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ :thumbup: 2020 third place

QB: J. Allen Wentz Watson D. Lock.
RB: Barkley Zeke CEH J. Robinson D. Freeman Penny
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow, Jeudy, R. Moore TreQuan, P. Williams
TE: Waller Engram OJH & Everett
DEF: Pats & Browns

Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K

QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
TE: Engram Hurts Ebron Herndon

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby bjd5211 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:50 pm

ravn88 wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:46 pm How are people feeling after Dobbins killed Michigan
4 TDs crazy.

Is he not near tier 1 ?
I think Tier 1 is still

Jeudy
Swift
Taylor

Tier 2 is:

Dobbins
Etienne
Lamb

But they are all really close and wouldn't blame anyone for moving any of those names up or down.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby nathanq42 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:52 pm

ravn88 wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:46 pm How are people feeling after Dobbins killed Michigan
4 TDs crazy.

Is he not near tier 1 ?
He is one of my favourites and I'm almost certain to get him too. He does just about everything well. Likely won't rip off 60 yard gains in the NFL since he isn't the fastest, but I think he can rip off 20 yard plays regularly thanks to his extreme quickness, lateral agility, and contact balance.
12 Team 1 ppr .1 points per carry
Garbage
QB Jalen Hurts
RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Cameron Giles » Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:25 pm

ravn88 wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:46 pm How are people feeling after Dobbins killed Michigan
4 TDs crazy.

Is he not near tier 1 ?
I definitely think you can make the case that he is Tier 1. Him and Swift are not far off at all, hell they may be equals. I think Dobbins has done the most to help his stock of any prospect in this class outside of Ruggs.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby AussieMate » Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:38 pm

ravn88 wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:46 pm How are people feeling after Dobbins killed Michigan
4 TDs crazy.

Is he not near tier 1 ?
I mentioned earlier that he was creeping closer to the top two after I watched some of his games. If he was to land in Kansas City he'd be the 1.01 for sure.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Cameron Giles » Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:40 pm

My Top-12 right now:

1. Jeudy
2. Taylor
3. Lamb
4. Ruggs
5. Dobbins
6. Swift
7. Harris
8. Shenault
9. Smith
10. Etienne
11. Akers
12. Higgins

This is a really tough list to put together. So many players I'd be tempted to push into the Top 12. My best advice for this class is to stock up on 2nd rounders.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Wed Dec 04, 2019 5:22 pm

Cameron Giles wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:40 pm My Top-12 right now:

1. Jeudy
2. Taylor
3. Lamb
4. Ruggs
5. Dobbins
6. Swift
7. Harris
8. Shenault
9. Smith
10. Etienne
11. Akers
12. Higgins

This is a really tough list to put together. So many players I'd be tempted to push into the Top 12. My best advice for this class is to stock up on 2nd rounders.
The 2nd round thing is a good idea in most draft classes. In one of my leagues I charted everyone’s rookie draft picks over the years and noticed a big weakness of mine was I always seemed to trade my 2nds away when in fact I should have been stockpiling them. If you use a little common sense the hit rate on them is higher than you’d expect. Posted below a sampling of a few teams 2nd round picks, sorted by year.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:08 pm

ravn88 wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:46 pm How are people feeling after Dobbins killed Michigan
4 TDs crazy.

Is he not near tier 1 ?
He's a top back IMO. I'd put him right up there behind Swift and Taylor. I personally like the backs more than the top WR (Jeudy). Jeudy is not the 1.01 in my eyes. Top WR, but I can't justify him going ahead of 3 down capable workhorse backs with the skill these guys have. Swift and Taylor are ahead of Jeudy for me, and Dobbins just behind that. Draft capital and landing spot will be huge, but I don't see any of these backs lasting until the 3rd round.
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:10 pm

cantguardjay wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:07 am Is it just me or does a HUGE amount of Dobbins production come from outside / off tackle runs? Etienne is the far superior prospect imo.
Etienne has suspect patience and vision IMO. Dobbins also has better hands. Personally I won't have Etienne on my board, because he will be getting drafted way before I'm prepared to take him. Etienne has a ton of speed, but I don't trust him to be a consistent NFL back. Dobbins does get a lot of production off those runs, like you said, but he's not limited to that as a runner. I think he's a much better football player, than Etienne, although Etienne is clearly a better athlete, at least in terms of speed.
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:07 pm

Don't like to give away all my deep sleepers, but I don't believe this guy will be come draft time. Gabriel Davis has declared. Junior WR out of UCF.
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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Chwf3rd » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:19 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:07 pm Don't like to give away all my deep sleepers, but I don't believe this guy will be come draft time. Gabriel Davis has declared. Junior WR out of UCF.
Are there really sleepers in December?
Team 1 - 12 team PPR
QB: MRyan, MJones, CNewton, RFitz
RB: SBarkley, DSwift, CAkers, JMixon, AJDillon, LMurray, DarWilliams, GBernard
WR: SDiggs, ACooper, BAiyuk, JJones, LShenault, BCooks, KToney, KHamler, VJefferson
TE: JSmith, ISmith, ZErtz

Team 2 - 16 team, PPR, SF
QB: JBurrow, CWentz, ZWilson, Jimmy G
RB: SBarkley, DSwift, CAkers, BSnell, TGurley, DGuice
WR: JChase, BAiyuk, CSutton, THiggins, JJeudy, JReagor, BEdwards
TE: ISmith, HarBryant, DSample, TTremble

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Gtdano_14 » Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:05 am

Chwf3rd wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:19 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:07 pm Don't like to give away all my deep sleepers, but I don't believe this guy will be come draft time. Gabriel Davis has declared. Junior WR out of UCF.
Are there really sleepers in December?
Owners who aren’t doing some homework yet? 😁
16 Team PPR 1 QB - 2 RB - 2 WR - 1 TE - 1 Flex
QB- R.Wilson, B. Mayfield
RB- D. Cook, Zeke, J. Jacobs, J. McKinnon, A. Collins, I. Smith, B. Hill, R. Armstead, M. Boone
WR- J. Smith-Schuster, T. Boyd, C. Sutton, M. Brown, H. Ruggs, S. Miller
TE- G. Kittle, Enron, C. Herndon
'21 Picks- 1.12

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Factory of Sadness » Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:20 am

Going to be such an exciting draft class. I'm curious above all to see who takes the less predictable talents. If guys like Shenault and Reagor are taken by teams with unimaginative staffs, then they will basically drop off my board. If they are taken by coaches who can be trusted to exploit their strengths, then they will be very, very tempting pick-ups.
One cautionary note though is that there don't seem to be very many spectacular landing spots for the top picks. Other than the obvious one of the Chiefs RB, what other great landing spots do people see?
A few that occur to me are:
An early 49ers RB
Texans RB
Cardinals RB
Eagles WR.
We may get some good players landing in initially unpromising spots. We may also have such an influx of RBs and Wrs that some of the guys we have rostered that we think of as safe right now, may see their value plummet after the draft.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby jenkins.math » Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:03 am

Dane Brugler of the Athletic released his first mock draft yesterday and had Ruggs as the first WR taken and 6 WRs in the first overall. In his order: Ruggs, Jeudy, Lamb, Higgins, Shenault, Smith

Also Taylor was the only RB in the first round.

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Re: More 2020 Hype: "If You Need A RB or WR, this is the draft for you."

Postby Forza_Azzurri » Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:18 am

Factory of Sadness wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:20 am Going to be such an exciting draft class. I'm curious above all to see who takes the less predictable talents. If guys like Shenault and Reagor are taken by teams with unimaginative staffs, then they will basically drop off my board. If they are taken by coaches who can be trusted to exploit their strengths, then they will be very, very tempting pick-ups.
One cautionary note though is that there don't seem to be very many spectacular landing spots for the top picks. Other than the obvious one of the Chiefs RB, what other great landing spots do people see?
A few that occur to me are:
An early 49ers RB
Texans RB
Cardinals RB
Eagles WR.
We may get some good players landing in initially unpromising spots. We may also have such an influx of RBs and Wrs that some of the guys we have rostered that we think of as safe right now, may see their value plummet after the draft.
Bills WR
Raiders WR
Packers WR
Falcons RB
Jets WR
Bucs RB
Cards WR

A lot of good landing spots IMO.


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