Help another playoff team?

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Help another playoff team?

Postby mzkp54 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:06 pm

Trade deadline in a few hours. I'm in the playoffs. Another team has no TE (also in the playoffs) but is the highest scoring team on the season (I'm 2nd highest). I think I can get him to overpay for a TE- maybe something like Ryan Griffin or Kyle Rudolph for John Brown or for a late 1st. Would you take that, or is him being weak at TE for the playoffs more valuable?
12 tm/PPR/SF/TE+/Full IDP (start 11/11)/Contracts
QB- Kyler, TLaw Stafford
RB-
WR- JJ, Lamb, ARSB, DJM, Kirk QJ
TE- Engram, Schultz
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DT- Wilkins, Vea
DE- Bosa, Young, Landry Ebukam
LB- Campbell,Speed, Mcfadden, Dodson
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Re: Help another playoff team?

Postby iron » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:15 pm

I would assume that he can get a TE from another team, so I would try for a deal first.
Start 1QB, 1-4RB, 1-4WR, 1-4TE. TE prem

Team 1 (14 team)

QB- K.Murray,,Lock, Brissett
RB- D.Cook, JRobinson ,Mattison, Coleman, J.White, E.Benjamin
WR- Hopkins, Evans,, Hamler, Fitz, DeSean Jax, Stills, V.Jefferson, T.Smith
TE- Hurst, Ebron,, Akins, Cox, Dissly, Uzomah, Jarwin

Team 2 (16)

QB- Wilson,Rivers, Luton, Rudolph
RB- E.Elliott, Kamara, Edmonds, B.Scott, Gaskin, L.Murray, Love, Perine, JJ Taylor
WR- K.Allen, M.Evans, Fitzgerald, R.Cobb, D.Jackson, Pascal, D.Robinson, Watson, Devernay
TE- Hooper, Ertz, Schultz, Alie-Cox, Arnold, Okwuegbunam, Hollister

Team 3 (16)

QB- Mariota,, Foles, K.Allen, Kizer
RB- D.Harris, Hynes, Mattison, AJ Dillon, Ozigbo
WR- D.Parker, Peoples-Jones, Pascal, Funchess, Isabella
TE- Boyle, Deguara,

2021 picks- 1.6, 2.2, 2.4, 2.11, 2.14, 3.14, 3.15, 4.1, 4.11, 5.2, 5.4, 5.5
2022 picks- 1st (5 picks), 2nd (4 picks), 3rd (2 picks), 4th (1 pick), 5th (2 picks)

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Re: Help another playoff team?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:27 pm

Winning titles > winning trades

Up to you. All depends on if you think you can beat this team.
Kittles Pox | Championships: 2015, 2017
12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd

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Re: Help another playoff team?

Postby Gator Sens » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:30 pm

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:27 pm Winning titles > winning trades

Up to you. All depends on if you think you can beat this team.
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Re: Help another playoff team?

Postby Whittles12 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:45 pm

It looks like it’s a TE premium. Don’t think I like the idea of helping the strongest team, get stronger. It’s not a top pick, most likely 1.11/1.12. Why strengthen your opponent. If anything, I am trying to weaken his team. Is a late 1st, worth potently losing a title. As Herm said, you play to win the game.
12 Tm 28 man roster
SF TEP 1Ppr(2 TE)Start 10 Q-R-R-W-W-W-T-SF-F-F
Q- Rodgers, Carr, Levis, mariota, O’Connell Haener, Brady, Zappe
R- CMC, D Johnson, D Harris, Warren, K. Ingram, t jones singletary.
W- Hill, Olave, Allen, Lockett, puka, m. Wilson, Mingo,Van, Hodgins, McKenzie
T- Kelce, Muth.
2024- 1st.

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Re: Help another playoff team?

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:08 am

The odds that this te you give him is the difference in beating you in the finals, assuming you even get there, is slim. If you can get him to do something stupid and weaken his team for the future while strengthening your own team then do it.

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Re: Help another playoff team?

Postby Goddard » Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:08 am

I'd move either of those TEs for a 1st very easily, regardless of his team makeup.

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Re: Help another playoff team?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:18 pm

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:08 am The odds that this te you give him is the difference in beating you in the finals, assuming you even get there, is slim. If you can get him to do something stupid and weaken his team for the future while strengthening your own team then do it.
thank god someone here can reason lol

the thought of passing on a first because you dont want a competitor to have a throw away TE is asinine
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Help another playoff team?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:44 pm

BigBawseRoss wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:18 pm
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:08 am The odds that this te you give him is the difference in beating you in the finals, assuming you even get there, is slim. If you can get him to do something stupid and weaken his team for the future while strengthening your own team then do it.
thank god someone here can reason lol

the thought of passing on a first because you dont want a competitor to have a throw away TE is asinine
That's your opinion, which is fine, but that doesn't mean it's 100% the correct answer. No need to be arrogant in calling it "asinine" to not make this trade.

If it were my team, and I lost the title anyway and didn't get the 1st, I lost out on some value, which sucks, but it's not the end of the world. If I lost the title because another contender used a TE that I sold to him, I would be livid.
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12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd

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Re: Help another playoff team?

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:07 pm

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:44 pm
BigBawseRoss wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:18 pm
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:08 am The odds that this te you give him is the difference in beating you in the finals, assuming you even get there, is slim. If you can get him to do something stupid and weaken his team for the future while strengthening your own team then do it.
thank god someone here can reason lol

the thought of passing on a first because you dont want a competitor to have a throw away TE is asinine
That's your opinion, which is fine, but that doesn't mean it's 100% the correct answer. No need to be arrogant in calling it "asinine" to not make this trade.

If it were my team, and I lost the title anyway and didn't get the 1st, I lost out on some value, which sucks, but it's not the end of the world. If I lost the title because another contender used a TE that I sold to him, I would be livid.
So you just don’t trade with half the league then typically?

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Re: Help another playoff team?

Postby LarryJanuary » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:43 pm

It's pretty easy to overestimate how much one player improves a team. The chances of Griffin losing you a head to head vs him/him winning because he has Griffin over whatever replacement he'd be using is extremely small. I'd very easily take a first and be able to accept the very unlikely reality I lost a statistically significant amount of EV.
Team 1
12 Team PPR: Superflex: TE Prem: 2RB/2WR/2FLEX
QB: Mahomes, Prescott, Newton
RB: Chubb, Carson, Gibson, Kelley, Duke
WR: Hill, Cooper, Woods, Thielen, MWill, Miller
TE: Hock, Higbee, Everett
Picks: 2021-2 2022-1 2 3 4

Team 2
14 Team PPR: Superflex: TE Prem: 3RB/3WR/2FLEX
QB: Watson, Jones, Haskins, Kyle Allen
RB: JT, CEH, Davis, Snell, Justin Jackson
WR: Hill, JuJu, Cooks, Crowder, Parker, Shenault, Pittman, Aiyuk, CD
TE: Goedert, Irv, Sternberger
Picks: 2021-none 2022-1 2 3 4 5

Team 3
14 Team PPR: Superflex: TE Prem: 2RB/2WR/3FLEX
QB: Mahomes, Wilson, Love, Dalton
RB: Hines, Malcolm Brown
WR: Diggs, Terry, Slayton, Reagor, Claypool, Campbell
TE: Engram, Jonnu
Picks: 2021-1 2 2 2 2 2022-1 1 1 3 4 5

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Re: Help another playoff team?

Postby IR1 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:49 pm

If you can get a 1st for Griffin, I’d do that easy. He could easily end up with a better TE from a rebuilding team. Take the first and hopefully prevent him from getting an elite TE
10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
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DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
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Re: Help another playoff team?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:55 pm

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:07 pm So you just don’t trade with half the league then typically?
I didn't say that. My point is that it's situationally dependent. We don't know how strong this team is in OP's league. All I'm saying is it's not as easy as "take the 1st".
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12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd

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Re: Help another playoff team?

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:27 pm

IR1 wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:49 pm If you can get a 1st for Griffin, I’d do that easy. He could easily end up with a better TE from a rebuilding team. Take the first and hopefully prevent him from getting an elite TE
That's a good point. The guy can easily get a better TE elsewhere. You might as well be the one who profits from it.

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Re: Help another playoff team?

Postby Adam_172 » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:47 am

I'd trade if doesn't hurt your shot at a title this year.
TEAM 1
Dynasty PPR 1QB (12 Team League)

QB - Murray, Fields, Pickett, Howell.
RB - Gibbs, R. White, Swift, Javonte Williams, Charbonnet, Allegier, Tank Bigsby, Penny.
WR - Nacua, Dell, Hollywood, Jameson Williams, Burks, Mooney, Atwell, Melton, Phillips, Washington, Lazard.
TE - Ferguson, Mayer, Knox.
DEF - Bills, Vikings.

Rookie Picks: 1.02, 2.02, 3.02, 4.02 and 5.02.


TEAM 2
Dynasty PPR - SuperFlex and TE Prem. (16 teams)

QB - Prescott, Pickett, Ridder, Mariota, Mullins, Willis.
RB - Walker III, R. White, Montgomery, Singletary, R. Jones, Mack, Hull, Sermon.
WR - Adams, Higgins, Watson, Meyers, Gabe Davis, W. Robinson, Dotson, Raymond, ARob.
TE - McBride, H. Henry, B. Jordan, Bates, B. Hopkins.

Rookie Picks: 2.14 and 3.14.


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