Argument for NOT taking Mahomes 1.01 in a SF Startup?

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Argument for NOT taking Mahomes 1.01 in a SF Startup?

Postby jonesmaster » Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:49 pm

Although i'm relatively new to SF, i think i've played long enough to understand the power of a top tier QB like this. For me, Mahomes is the only player in fantasy i would overpay to acquire.

For the more experienced SF players, why would he not be the 1.01 in a start-up every-time? I understand that the RBs are all highly productive and that QB is pretty deep, but QBs are also likely to retain value for the longest time and Mahomes is looking like he's here to stay for the long-haul.
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Re: Why is Mahomes not 1.01 in a SF Startup?

Postby ArrylT » Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:21 pm

I was under the impression that he was basically the 1.01 or 1.02 in most SF startups already?

I think it comes down to personal preference - both he and Barkley are young generational talents (yes I know that word gets thrown out a lot) - so at least this past off-season if Mahomes was not the 1.01 then Barkley went 1.01. The problem is it always takes a couple of years for a majority of owners to feel comfortable to buy into a player to be the consensus 1.01 - and there are/were bound to be owners who expected regression which means many might not be comfortable taking him at 1.01.

In the end, like I said it is really going to be a matter of preference - I personally have no issue if Mahomes does not go 1.01 - but if he was to fall further than say 1.03/1.04 in a Superflex one would have to wonder ...
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Re: Why is Mahomes not 1.01 in a SF Startup?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:40 pm

He is. I don't understand the question.
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Re: Why is Mahomes not 1.01 in a SF Startup?

Postby Space Cowboy » Thu Nov 14, 2019 12:24 pm

Maybe someone who loves Barkely, CMC, Kamara or Cook but I'd go Mahomes. He's a near lock for 30 points a week.

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Re: Why is Mahomes not 1.01 in a SF Startup?

Postby Goddard » Thu Nov 14, 2019 12:59 pm

He's the 1.01 and it's not really close for me.

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Re: Why is Mahomes not 1.01 in a SF Startup?

Postby jonesmaster » Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:00 pm

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:40 pm
He is. I don't understand the question.
im asking why he wouldn't be. My point is that i think its not even close. im looking for reasons why you wouldnt take him at 1.01.
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WR: Moore, Juju, Evans, Woods, Watkins, Sanders, Hakeem Butler, Humphries, Cobb
RB: Zeke, Gurley, Mixon, Mike Davis, Gio, Ty Johnson, Perkins, Armstead
TE: Kelce, Reed, Jonnu, Moreau
D/ST: Bears, Colts, Panthers

10-team Full PPR Scoring: 1QB, 2WR, 2RB, 1FLX, 1 SFLX, 1TE, 1D/ST, K

QB: Wilson , Mahomes , Baker, Teddy B, Stidham
RB: Coleman , White , Breida, Drake, Gio, Lewis, Davis, Ballage, Wilkins, J. Williams
WR: Evans , MT , Ridley, Harry, Boykin, Robby Anderson, Dede
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Re: Why is Mahomes not 1.01 in a SF Startup?

Postby Samhain34 » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:22 am

jonesmaster wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:00 pm
WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:40 pm
He is. I don't understand the question.
im asking why he wouldn't be. My point is that i think its not even close. im looking for reasons why you wouldnt take him at 1.01.
And everybody is telling you, in so many words, that there are no good reasons you wouldn't take him at 1.01.

Actually, I can think of ONE: The BEST reason not to take him at 1.01 is that you wisely talked your league to do their startup draft as an auction, which is WAY more fun, rewards talent over random draft position, and tells you more about what kind of owners you have in the league.
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