Do you sell Julio to a contender

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Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby sebennayx » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:25 am

Team 3 in sig (MN)

Give: Julio+2020 late 3rd+2021 3rd
Get: Sutton+2020 late 1st+2021 1st

My primary concern is that both teams are contenders this year. Do I add risk this year for future gain?
ESB | 14tm | 0.5 PPR | TE PPR | 0.5 1st DN
1QB | 2RB | 3WR | 1TE | 2FLEX | 1SF CHAMP
QB: Hurts, Burrow, Purdy+
RB: CMC, JT, Saquon, BRob, Zamir+
WR: Lamb, Davante, Nico, DK, Sutton+
TE: Engram, Goedert, Dulcich+
'24: 5
'25: 3+


MND | 14tm | PPR | TE 1.5PPR
1QB | 2RB | 3WR | 1TE | 2FLEX
QB: Dak, TLaw, ARich
RB: JT, ETN, Ford, Spears+
WR: Waddle, Wilson, JSN, JaMo, Sutton, Downs+
TE: Kittle, Otton+
'24: 2+
'25: 1, 2, 2+


XPCL | 12tm | 0.5 PPFD | 0.5PPR | TE PPR
1QB | 2RB | 3WR | 1TE | 2FLEX | 1SF
QB: Lamar, Purdy, Howell+
RB: Bijan, ETN, Charb, Kendre+
WR: Pittman, Amari, Pickens, Zay, JaMo+
TE: Otton+
'24: 1, 2+
'25: 1, 1, 2+


NRD | 14tm | 0.5 PPFD | 0.5PPR | DEVY
1QB | 2RB | 3WR | 2TE | 1FLEX | 1SF
QB: Fields, Stroud, Kyler
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, KW3, Javonte+
WR: Higgins, Jeudy, Dotson+
TE: Njoku, Granson+
DEVY: Odunze, KJJ, Allar, Klubnik, Owens
'24: 1.02, 1.05, 1.07, 2.05+
'25: 1, 2+

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby Slackalacker » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:30 am

I would definitely prefer the Sutton side, but selling to another contender would make me hesitate.
TEAM 1 - 10 team SF 1PPR | 2017 & 2019 League Champ
1QB/1SF/2RB/2WR/1TE/2FLEX
QB: Dak - Hurts - DangeRuss - Tua - Z Wilson - Mills
RB: Barkley - Zeke - Sanders - Pollard - Patterson - D’Ernest - Jermar - Evans - Jones
WR: Hill - JJeff - Higgins - Hollywood - MThom(IR) - Godwin(IR) - E Moore - Marshall Jr - Calloway - Palmer - D Brown
TE: Hock - Moreau

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby Dibbles » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:31 am

If you are an absolute contender, Julio >> Sutton rest of season - so I think you need to hold Julio. If you don't feel you have a legit shot to win it all, I'd make this trade as the value is on the Sutton side IMO.

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:39 am

I would hold Jones as a contender as well. He should still put up WR1 numbers the rest of the year.

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby abloom » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:42 am

With that team, give me sutton and the firsts.

Can't really gauge how you will do to finish up this year. but you need some more fire power on that team, and those 1sts will give you just that.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, Fields, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens, wilson
T: Kelce, Goedert, Thomas, woods
D: cle, nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson, Browning, Rudolph, Zappe
R: Swift, Walker, Dobbins, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen, Nuk, Tre tucker, C Samuel,
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
https://www49.myfantasyleague.com/2023/ ... =0004&O=01

Team #5 4th
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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby mmass » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:52 am

if you think you can win the ship keep Jones... if you are a borderline team then I take Sutton and started getting ammo for the future.
Superflex Format Q(SF)RWWFFTDK 12 Team PPR
SF1 - Yr 2
Goff Ryan Darnold Dalton
CMC Cohen Hines McFarland Peterson
Hopkins Adams Boyd Jeffery Shepard Boykins Higgins Quntez Duverney
Andrews Waller


SF2 - Yr 7 - 2019 Champ
Wentz Dak Goff Grier Brisset
Cook Mixon Hyde Mattison Edmonds Boone
M.Thomas Sutton Edelman J.Landry
Kittle Goedart Higbee


SF3 - Yr 4
Watson Burrow Goff Foles
Barkley Ja.Williams
Hopkins Evans Sutton Lamb Shepard VSM K.Harmon
Higbee Smith Howard


SF4 - Orphan Year 2
Dak Jones Taylor Brisset Eason Hurts
Taylor CEH Edmonds Dobbins
Boyd Ridley Mclaurin Lamb Reagor Harry Bryan Perriman Hurd
Andrews Goedart

2020 2 1st & 2nd

Deep Format - QQRRWWWTTFFDDKK 10 team PPR
Deep 2 Yr 5
Brady Stafford Lock Dalton Brissett
CMC Mixon Taylor Dillon DJ Hyde
Evans Hopkins Julio Edelman Gallup D.Jackson Mimz Claypool Boykin
Engram Gesicki Fant Herndon Dissly

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby Rustycage » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:17 pm

Sutton side for me.
12 Team Dynasty, (SF) (2pt/c TE Prem)
QB - Wentz, Heinicke, Big Ben, Fitz, Tyrod, Rudolph
RB - Henry, Kamara, CMC, R. Jones, D. Felton, P. Lindsay
WR - Ridley, Pittman, Cooks, M. Williams, MT, AJG, R. Higgins, Perriman, Shi Smith, MVS
TE - Gesicki, Engram, Uzomah, Hurst, Manhertz, Farrell

2022: 1,2,3,4

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby IR1 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:25 pm

Sutton side for me, should help a lot in the coming years
10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby Huddle3233 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:43 pm

That is a great return/haul for Julio. Give me the Sutton side all day.

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby jenkins.math » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:58 pm

Sutton all day and it isn't even close for me. Unless you have some funky scoring, the difference between the two players this season in PPR is 2.1 ppg. On top of that you're getting a player that is 6.5 years younger.

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby BigBawseRoss » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:02 pm

i dont see how this is a question. sutton is currently scoring as a high end wr2 and julio a mid wr1, the age gap is massive and those are first round picks being offered.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby Mike from Canada » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:15 pm

Take the value, Sutton side.

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby sebennayx » Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:26 pm

Thanks all, I sold Julio.

I'll be sitting 3rd (7-3), on the heels of 1st/2nd (8-2), with the most points scored and second most possible points. I like my players' matchups during the playoffs, and feel I can still contend even after the trade. I felt the long term gain was worth more than the short term risk.
ESB | 14tm | 0.5 PPR | TE PPR | 0.5 1st DN
1QB | 2RB | 3WR | 1TE | 2FLEX | 1SF CHAMP
QB: Hurts, Burrow, Purdy+
RB: CMC, JT, Saquon, BRob, Zamir+
WR: Lamb, Davante, Nico, DK, Sutton+
TE: Engram, Goedert, Dulcich+
'24: 5
'25: 3+


MND | 14tm | PPR | TE 1.5PPR
1QB | 2RB | 3WR | 1TE | 2FLEX
QB: Dak, TLaw, ARich
RB: JT, ETN, Ford, Spears+
WR: Waddle, Wilson, JSN, JaMo, Sutton, Downs+
TE: Kittle, Otton+
'24: 2+
'25: 1, 2, 2+


XPCL | 12tm | 0.5 PPFD | 0.5PPR | TE PPR
1QB | 2RB | 3WR | 1TE | 2FLEX | 1SF
QB: Lamar, Purdy, Howell+
RB: Bijan, ETN, Charb, Kendre+
WR: Pittman, Amari, Pickens, Zay, JaMo+
TE: Otton+
'24: 1, 2+
'25: 1, 1, 2+


NRD | 14tm | 0.5 PPFD | 0.5PPR | DEVY
1QB | 2RB | 3WR | 2TE | 1FLEX | 1SF
QB: Fields, Stroud, Kyler
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, KW3, Javonte+
WR: Higgins, Jeudy, Dotson+
TE: Njoku, Granson+
DEVY: Odunze, KJJ, Allar, Klubnik, Owens
'24: 1.02, 1.05, 1.07, 2.05+
'25: 1, 2+

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby ManuManu » Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:16 pm

I haven’t been offered anything near that for Julio. I had one GM tell me he wouldn’t pay more than a 2. Two other GMs offered single firsts.
Team 1, 10-team 0.5-PPR
QB (1): Richardson, Watson, Purdy
RB (2-3): Walker, Swift, Dobbins, R. White, Mitchell, Gainwell
WR (3-4): Hill, Godwin, Aiyuk, Flowers, N. Collins, Doubs, M. Wilson, Shakir
TE (1-2): McBride, Goedert, Okonkwo

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby sebennayx » Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:53 pm

ManuManu wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:16 pm I haven’t been offered anything near that for Julio. I had one GM tell me he wouldn’t pay more than a 2. Two other GMs offered single firsts.
To be fair, the end result wasn't close to the initial discussions. It started with discussions around Chark, transitioned to Julio, and had to be built up from there.

I'm lucky to be in a few leagues with many owners who like to trade and are open to candid trade discussions.
ESB | 14tm | 0.5 PPR | TE PPR | 0.5 1st DN
1QB | 2RB | 3WR | 1TE | 2FLEX | 1SF CHAMP
QB: Hurts, Burrow, Purdy+
RB: CMC, JT, Saquon, BRob, Zamir+
WR: Lamb, Davante, Nico, DK, Sutton+
TE: Engram, Goedert, Dulcich+
'24: 5
'25: 3+


MND | 14tm | PPR | TE 1.5PPR
1QB | 2RB | 3WR | 1TE | 2FLEX
QB: Dak, TLaw, ARich
RB: JT, ETN, Ford, Spears+
WR: Waddle, Wilson, JSN, JaMo, Sutton, Downs+
TE: Kittle, Otton+
'24: 2+
'25: 1, 2, 2+


XPCL | 12tm | 0.5 PPFD | 0.5PPR | TE PPR
1QB | 2RB | 3WR | 1TE | 2FLEX | 1SF
QB: Lamar, Purdy, Howell+
RB: Bijan, ETN, Charb, Kendre+
WR: Pittman, Amari, Pickens, Zay, JaMo+
TE: Otton+
'24: 1, 2+
'25: 1, 1, 2+


NRD | 14tm | 0.5 PPFD | 0.5PPR | DEVY
1QB | 2RB | 3WR | 2TE | 1FLEX | 1SF
QB: Fields, Stroud, Kyler
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, KW3, Javonte+
WR: Higgins, Jeudy, Dotson+
TE: Njoku, Granson+
DEVY: Odunze, KJJ, Allar, Klubnik, Owens
'24: 1.02, 1.05, 1.07, 2.05+
'25: 1, 2+


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