JOHNNY_COCKTAIL wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:15 pm
Ice wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:43 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:49 am
His running sets up his passing. He makes some great throws. They have done a great job designing a system based around his dual threat ability. He's not a guy that can stand back there and make the throws the elite passers in this league can, consistently. That much is obvious. He's already a good passer, though. Greg Roman was a great hire. His passing stats are definitely set up by his legs, though. Let's not kid ourselves. He's not Rodgers, or Mahomes etc. as a passer.
Hard to say his running sets up his passing since he drops back a lot but it certainly makes defenses play safeties up. Agree 100% on coaching!
Jackson is tied for 8th at 8.00 per pass. Mahomes leads the league at 9.00
Mahomes completion percentage is 66.3 18 TD's 1 Int.
Jackson is now 65.9 15 TD's 5 Int.
The big difference is Jackson is 11th in rushing with 6 TD's and an amazing 702 yards with a league leading 6.6 YPC.
Jackson's Points per game average is now second overall at an average of 29.222. Mahomes is 6th at 26.087. CMC still leads fantasy with 30.078.
Even as a big supporter, I don't think any of us realized just how good he would be playing this year.
To put what Lamar has done as a passer so far in his young career in perspective;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_N ... ser_rating
You've left out I think a key stat which is pass attempts a game. When Lamar is throwing 20 passes a game and Mahomes is throwing 40 a game. If Lamar was asked to do that he'd have a hard time replicating that completion percentage. Mahomes has also played in nearly 2 full games less due to injury (hardly played vs Denver) and has 2600 yards passing vs 2000 for Jackson. I also think Mahomes took a dip when he was playing hurt weeks 3-7 but what you saw yesterday is what I expect to see out of him the rest of the season.
Not really, No one is arguing Mahomes isn't the better passer. Mahomes is tied for 5th in pass attempts for QB's with 5 plus starts at 36.4 per game and leads the league at 9.0. ( Last season he was 36.3 and 8.8 ). It is obvious to all, Mahomes is a serious weapon at QB. He may be regressing in TD's a bit but overall his play is every bit as good if not a little better this season in his system.
Jackson last year only threw on average 10.6 times per game at 58.2% with 7.1 clip.
This season the Ravens system is very different and Jackson is playing within that system. Jackson's attempts have increased on average 17.7 attempts per game. He is now averaging 28.3 per game. His accuracy has increased from 58.2 to 65.9% and his average has increased from 7.1 to 8.0.
In QB speak, Jackson has improved astronomically this season which is why he is now in the conversation as a top tier QB in both fantasy and in the NFL. Jackson's passing is now a lethal weapon to go along with his video skill running ability.
That said, you won't find a bigger Mahomes fan than me. As a tech grad, I couldn't be happier with him and he is my top QB but it is not a reach if someone thinks Jackson is the best fantasy QB.
The perfect passing rating formula is not the end all but it is interesting that Jackson is only one of three QB's in the history of the game that has accomplished it twice in the same season. (Ben R. & P Manning; one of Manning's was in the playoffs) Even more special is Jackson doing this given his low number of starts and the fact that running the ball isn't even considered.
The article I have attached above goes into some detail of this interesting stat.