Do you sell Julio to a contender

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Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby sebennayx » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:25 am

Team 3 in sig (MN)

Give: Julio+2020 late 3rd+2021 3rd
Get: Sutton+2020 late 1st+2021 1st

My primary concern is that both teams are contenders this year. Do I add risk this year for future gain?
RZ | 12tm | 0.5PPR | 1QB | 2RB | 2WR | 1TE | 1WR/TE | 1FLEX | 2011
QB: Ryan, Foles+
RB: Kamara, Fournette, Ingram, Mack, Swift, Harris, Moss+
WR: MT, Godwin, Keenan, Sutton, Chark, Deebo, Lockett, Mims+
TE: Andrews, Higbee+
'21: 1, 2, 2+
'22: 1, 2


BL EMPIRE | 14tm | PPR | 1QB | 2RB | 3WR | 1TE | 1FLEX | 2017
QB: Dak, Tannehill
RB: Mixon, Chubb, Conner, Bell, Armstead+
WR: MT, Hopkins, Godwin, Thielen+
TE: Kelce, Gesicki
DL: Donald, Clark
LB: Schobert, J.Smith
DB: Collins, Walker
'21: 3, 3, 3+
'22: 1, 2, 2+


MN | 14tm | PPR | TE 1.5PPR | 1QB | 2RB | 3WR | 1TE | 1FLEX | 2019
QB: Lock, Carr
RB: CMC, Singletary, Taylor, Armstead/Robinson+
WR: OBJ, Sutton, Ruggs, Reagor, Shenault, Robby, Sims+
TE: Engram, Hooper+
'21: 1, 1, 1, 2+
'22: 1, 2+

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby Slackalacker » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:30 am

I would definitely prefer the Sutton side, but selling to another contender would make me hesitate.
5-1 TEAM 1 - 10 team 1PPR (SF in 2021) | 2017 & 2019 League Champ :dance:
1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/4FLEX
QB: Wilson - Wentz - Tua - Hurts - Eason
RB: Zeke - Mixon - Sanders - Davis - Pollard - Hill - Barkley(IR) - Coleman(IR)
WR: MThom - Godwin - DJM - Hollywood - Jefferson - Higgins - Pittman - Edwards - Mims - Scott Miller - Fulgham - Cephus - Campbell(IR)
TE: Engram - Hock

2-4TEAM 2 - 10 Team 1ppr |2019 Orphan
1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/2FLEX
QB: Wentz - Brees - Rivers
RB: CMC - Sanders - JT - Gaskin - Duke - Hill - Ito - Riddick - Bowden - Smallwood - Walton - Wilkins
WR: JuJu - Hill - PWill - Lazard - Samuel - Scotty - MVS - Van Jefferson - Enunwa - Washington - Trent Taylor -
TE: Hooper - Henry - Hurst - Gronk - Warring

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby Dibbles » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:31 am

If you are an absolute contender, Julio >> Sutton rest of season - so I think you need to hold Julio. If you don't feel you have a legit shot to win it all, I'd make this trade as the value is on the Sutton side IMO.

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:39 am

I would hold Jones as a contender as well. He should still put up WR1 numbers the rest of the year.

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby abloom » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:42 am

With that team, give me sutton and the firsts.

Can't really gauge how you will do to finish up this year. but you need some more fire power on that team, and those 1sts will give you just that.
Dynasty Team #1: 5-1 (2nd place)
2019 2nd Place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Wentz,Tannehill
R: CMC(IR),Taylor,Robinson,Fournette,Burkhead,Hill,Peterson,Armstead(IR)
W: OBJ,Evans,Edelman,Cobb,D.Moore,MVS,Cole
T: Goedert(IR),Henry,Dissly
D: NE,BAL
K: Zurlein

2021 Picks: 1,4,5,6,7
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Dynasty Team #2: 6-0 (1st place)
2019 3rd place
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: Wilson, Murray, Cousins, K Allen, Trubisky
R: Cook, Dobbins, Swift, Monty, Ingram, Michel(IR), Mattison
W: Nuk, Godwin, Metcalf, Edwards, Fulgham, Harry, Sutton(IR)
T: Kelce
K: Boswell
D: PIT

2021 picks: 1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7
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DLF advice forum league: 1-5 (12th place)
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes ,Tua, Mullens, Love, Flacco, Hoyer, Rypien, Bethard
R: Michel, Moss, Hyde, Bernard, Richard, Darrel Williams, Damien Williams, C Thompson
W: Juju, Cooper, Allen, Sanders, D Moore
T: Schultz, Doyle, Asiasi, Thomas

2021 Picks: 1,1,1,2,3,4

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby mmass » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:52 am

if you think you can win the ship keep Jones... if you are a borderline team then I take Sutton and started getting ammo for the future.
Superflex Format Q(SF)RWWFFTDK 12 Team PPR
SF1 - Yr 2
Goff Ryan Darnold Dalton
CMC Cohen Hines McFarland Peterson
Hopkins Adams Boyd Jeffery Shepard Boykins Higgins Quntez Duverney
Andrews Waller


SF2 - Yr 7 - 2019 Champ
Wentz Dak Goff Grier Brisset
Cook Mixon Hyde Mattison Edmonds Boone
M.Thomas Sutton Edelman J.Landry
Kittle Goedart Higbee


SF3 - Yr 4
Watson Burrow Goff Foles
Barkley Ja.Williams
Hopkins Evans Sutton Lamb Shepard VSM K.Harmon
Higbee Smith Howard


SF4 - Orphan Year 2
Dak Jones Taylor Brisset Eason Hurts
Taylor CEH Edmonds Dobbins
Boyd Ridley Mclaurin Lamb Reagor Harry Bryan Perriman Hurd
Andrews Goedart

2020 2 1st & 2nd

Deep Format - QQRRWWWTTFFDDKK 10 team PPR
Deep 2 Yr 5
Brady Stafford Lock Dalton Brissett
CMC Mixon Taylor Dillon DJ Hyde
Evans Hopkins Julio Edelman Gallup D.Jackson Mimz Claypool Boykin
Engram Gesicki Fant Herndon Dissly

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby Rustycage » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:17 pm

Sutton side for me.
Team 1: 12 Team Dynasty IDP
QB - Wentz, (IR, Dak)
RB - A. Jones, CEH, JKD, JT
WR - Hopkins, Golladay, Ridley, Hardman, Olabisi, Mooney, Reynolds, D. Robinson, Higgins, Pittman
TE - Fant, Gesicki,
DL: Garret, Young, Davenport, Aldon Smith, McKinley, Simmons
LB: Evans, White, D. Campbell, Goodson, Watt, Hitchens, (IR, McKinney)
DB: Neal, Vaccaro, Fuller, McLeod, Maye, Harris

2021: 1(early/mid), 4,5,6,6,7
2022: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7

Team 2: 12 Team Dynasty SF
QB - Darnold, Mayfield, Dalton, Haskins
RB - CMC, Kamara, Henry, Coleman, Breida, Guice
WR - Adams, Julio, Diontae, Reynolds, ARob, Tate, Pascal
TE - Waller, Hurst, Ian Thomas, O'Shaughnessy

2021: 3,4
2022: 1,2,3,4

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby IR1 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:25 pm

Sutton side for me, should help a lot in the coming years
10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
QB- Wilson, Herbert
RB-Kamara, Mixon, Dobbins, AP
WR-Adams, Evans, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Harry
TE- Kelce, Fant, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, KClark
DE- JBosa, Hunter, Dunlap, Barnett, Gross-Matos, Chaisson
LB- D Jones, Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Williamson, B Chubb, Okereke, Simmons
CB- Moore, Hill, Bradberry
S- Byard, HSmith, Johnson
IR James, Barkley
2021- 1st x 1, 2nd x3

12 team SF QB/RB/WR/TE/ 3flex/1SF
QB- Wentz, Cousins, Lock, Bridgewater, Minshew, Hurts
RB- Dobbins, Guice, KJohnson, Michel, Sanders, Dillon, Hill
WR- Allen, Lockett, AJ Brown, JJAW, Meyers, DJax, AMiller, Mims, Sheppard, MJones, Kirk, KCole
TE- Ertz, Fant, Hurst, Dwelley

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby Huddle3233 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:43 pm

That is a great return/haul for Julio. Give me the Sutton side all day.

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby jenkins.math » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:58 pm

Sutton all day and it isn't even close for me. Unless you have some funky scoring, the difference between the two players this season in PPR is 2.1 ppg. On top of that you're getting a player that is 6.5 years younger.
Team 1: 14 team dynasty, 25 man roster, keep 14
QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 2Flex, D/ST, K, DL, LB, DE
QB: Ryan, Mayfield
RB: Barkley, CEH, Kelley, Darrel Williams, Gaskin, Snell
WR: OBJ, Evans, Juju, Moore, Jeudy, Reagor, Corey Davis, Cooks
TE: Kittle, Schultz
K: Butker
D/ST: Titans, Bears
DL: Heyward
LB: K. White
DB: B. Baker

Team 2: 12 team PPR Salary Cap
QB: Watson, Goff
RB: Barkley, CEH, Gibson, Howard, Perine, Lewis, Ozigbo
WR: Hill, Allen, Boyd, Landry, Sims, DJax, Hamler, Westbrook
TE: Schultz, Ebron, Thomas, Keene, Jarwin
K: Tucker
D/ST: Steelers, Bills
Taxi: Lock, Bryce Love, Higgins

Team 3: 12 team SF
QB: Wentz, Mayfield, Love
RB: AP, Lewis, Perine, JJ Taylor, Vaughn, Mack
WR: Jeudy, Jeffrey, P Williams, Mooney, Cephus, Fitz, Gandy-Golden, Hightower, Swain, Bisi Johnson, Tate
TE: Doyle, Smith, Trautman, Keene, Warring

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby BigBawseRoss » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:02 pm

i dont see how this is a question. sutton is currently scoring as a high end wr2 and julio a mid wr1, the age gap is massive and those are first round picks being offered.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Rivers , Rosen, Fitzpatrick, Tyrod
Kamara, McCoy, D FreemanCohen, Bibbs, Clement,J. Allen, ty mont,Ito Smith
K Allen, Hopkins, M Williams, AROB Alshon,KeKe,MVS,T McLaurin
Ebron Graham, Njoku, Irv

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Trubitsky, Dak
Chubb,Mixon, D Henry,Coleman, D Harris, Armstead, Mostert
Hopkins, K Allen, M Evans, C Davis, Watkins, Arob, M Williams, Edleman, J Gordon, Hurd
Ertz, Everett, Fant


team 3
http://www61.myfantasyleague.com/2019/o ... =07&F=0008

team 4
https://www55.myfantasyleague.com/2019/ ... =07&F=0010

team 5
http://www57.myfantasyleague.com/2019/o ... =0008&O=07

team 6
http://www54.myfantasyleague.com/2019/o ... =07&F=0004

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https://www51.myfantasyleague.com/2019/ ... =07&F=0011

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby perkinsrooster » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:15 pm

Take the value, Sutton side.

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby sebennayx » Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:26 pm

Thanks all, I sold Julio.

I'll be sitting 3rd (7-3), on the heels of 1st/2nd (8-2), with the most points scored and second most possible points. I like my players' matchups during the playoffs, and feel I can still contend even after the trade. I felt the long term gain was worth more than the short term risk.
RZ | 12tm | 0.5PPR | 1QB | 2RB | 2WR | 1TE | 1WR/TE | 1FLEX | 2011
QB: Ryan, Foles+
RB: Kamara, Fournette, Ingram, Mack, Swift, Harris, Moss+
WR: MT, Godwin, Keenan, Sutton, Chark, Deebo, Lockett, Mims+
TE: Andrews, Higbee+
'21: 1, 2, 2+
'22: 1, 2


BL EMPIRE | 14tm | PPR | 1QB | 2RB | 3WR | 1TE | 1FLEX | 2017
QB: Dak, Tannehill
RB: Mixon, Chubb, Conner, Bell, Armstead+
WR: MT, Hopkins, Godwin, Thielen+
TE: Kelce, Gesicki
DL: Donald, Clark
LB: Schobert, J.Smith
DB: Collins, Walker
'21: 3, 3, 3+
'22: 1, 2, 2+


MN | 14tm | PPR | TE 1.5PPR | 1QB | 2RB | 3WR | 1TE | 1FLEX | 2019
QB: Lock, Carr
RB: CMC, Singletary, Taylor, Armstead/Robinson+
WR: OBJ, Sutton, Ruggs, Reagor, Shenault, Robby, Sims+
TE: Engram, Hooper+
'21: 1, 1, 1, 2+
'22: 1, 2+

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby ManuManu » Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:16 pm

I haven’t been offered anything near that for Julio. I had one GM tell me he wouldn’t pay more than a 2. Two other GMs offered single firsts.
Team 1, 10-team 0.5-PPR
QB (1): Wentz, Cam, Tannehill
RB (2-3): Dobbins, Swift, David Johnson, K. Johnson, Duke Johnson, Edmonds, D. Harris, D. Evans
WR (3-4): Hill, A-Rob, Diggs, Fuller, P. Williams, Isabella, Reagor, Aiyuk, V. Jefferson, Perriman
TE (1-2): J. Smith, Hurst, Njoku

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby sebennayx » Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:53 pm

ManuManu wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:16 pm
I haven’t been offered anything near that for Julio. I had one GM tell me he wouldn’t pay more than a 2. Two other GMs offered single firsts.
To be fair, the end result wasn't close to the initial discussions. It started with discussions around Chark, transitioned to Julio, and had to be built up from there.

I'm lucky to be in a few leagues with many owners who like to trade and are open to candid trade discussions.
RZ | 12tm | 0.5PPR | 1QB | 2RB | 2WR | 1TE | 1WR/TE | 1FLEX | 2011
QB: Ryan, Foles+
RB: Kamara, Fournette, Ingram, Mack, Swift, Harris, Moss+
WR: MT, Godwin, Keenan, Sutton, Chark, Deebo, Lockett, Mims+
TE: Andrews, Higbee+
'21: 1, 2, 2+
'22: 1, 2


BL EMPIRE | 14tm | PPR | 1QB | 2RB | 3WR | 1TE | 1FLEX | 2017
QB: Dak, Tannehill
RB: Mixon, Chubb, Conner, Bell, Armstead+
WR: MT, Hopkins, Godwin, Thielen+
TE: Kelce, Gesicki
DL: Donald, Clark
LB: Schobert, J.Smith
DB: Collins, Walker
'21: 3, 3, 3+
'22: 1, 2, 2+


MN | 14tm | PPR | TE 1.5PPR | 1QB | 2RB | 3WR | 1TE | 1FLEX | 2019
QB: Lock, Carr
RB: CMC, Singletary, Taylor, Armstead/Robinson+
WR: OBJ, Sutton, Ruggs, Reagor, Shenault, Robby, Sims+
TE: Engram, Hooper+
'21: 1, 1, 1, 2+
'22: 1, 2+


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