Do you sell Julio to a contender

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Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby sebennayx » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:25 am

Team 3 in sig (MN)

Give: Julio+2020 late 3rd+2021 3rd
Get: Sutton+2020 late 1st+2021 1st

My primary concern is that both teams are contenders this year. Do I add risk this year for future gain?
RZ | 12tm | 0.5PPR | 1QB | 2RB | 2WR | 1TE | 1WR/TE | 1FLEX | 2011
QB: Ryan, Foles+
RB: Kamara, Fournette, Ingram, Mack, Harris, R.Anderson+
WR: MT, Godwin, Lockett, Keenan, Chark, Deebo+
TE: Andrews, Gronk, Higbee+
'20: 1.05, 1.12, 2.03, 2.10, 2.12+
'21: 1, 2, 2+


BL | 14tm | PPR | 1QB | 2RB | 3WR | 1TE | 1FLEX | 2017
QB: Dak, Baker, Tannehill
RB: Chubb, Conner, Bell, Murray+
WR: MT, Hopkins, Godwin, Thielen, Jeffery, Edwards+
TE: Kelce, Gesicki, Thomas
DL: Donald, TBD
LB: Schobert, J.Smith
DB: Collins, Walker
'21: 1+


MN | 14tm | PPR | TE 1.5PPR | 1QB | 2RB | 3WR | 1TE | 1FLEX | 2019
QB: Lock, Carr
RB: CMC, Singletary, Taylor+
WR: OBJ, Sutton, Ruggs, Reagor, Shenault, Robby, Harmon, Sims+
TE: Engram, Hooper, Sample, Trautman, Warring
'21: 1, 1, 1, 2+

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby Slackalacker » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:30 am

I would definitely prefer the Sutton side, but selling to another contender would make me hesitate.
TEAM 1 - 10 team 1PPR (SF in 2021) | 2017 & 2019 League Champ :dance:
1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/4FLEX - 2.01/2.03/2.04/3.01/4.10
QB: Wilson - Wentz - Brady
RB: Barkley - Zeke - Mixon - Pollard - Ito
WR: MThom - Nuk - Godwin - DJM - Hollywood - Campbell - Miller - JJAW - Pascal - Hurd - Gage - Ward
TE: Engram - Hock - Olsen - Stern

TEAM 2 - 10 Team 1ppr |2019 Orphan
1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/2FLEX - 3.2/4.7/5.2 - Mid Draft
QB: Wentz - Brees - Dalton
RB: Cook - JT - Singletary - Dobbins - Duke - Hill - Ito - Riddick - Smallwood - Walton - Wilkins
WR/TE: JuJu - Hill - Kirk - PWill - Samuel - Lazard - MVS - Enunwa - Lee - Trent Taylor - DT - Sharpe - P Cooper
TE: Hooper - Jonnu - Hurst - Gronk - Oliver - Olsen

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby Dibbles » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:31 am

If you are an absolute contender, Julio >> Sutton rest of season - so I think you need to hold Julio. If you don't feel you have a legit shot to win it all, I'd make this trade as the value is on the Sutton side IMO.

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby Gator Sens » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:39 am

I would hold Jones as a contender as well. He should still put up WR1 numbers the rest of the year.
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12 Team, PPR, 30 Roster: 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 FLEX, 1 DST, 1 K
QB: P. Mahomes, J. Allen
RB: A. Kamara, J. Mixon, D. Guice, L. Murray, R. Anderson
WR: K. Golladay, C. Godwin, C. Ridley, C. Sutton, J. Jeudy, C. Lamb, M. Williams, C. Kirk, D. Westbrook, J. Reynolds, E. St. Brown, D. Patmon
TE: I. Thomas, O.J. Howard, D. Njoku, G. Everett, A. Okwuegbunam, G. Olsen

2021 picks: 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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12 Team, PPR, 1.5 TE Premium, 25 Roster, 5 Taxi Squad: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex, 1 Super Flex
QB: K. Murray, J. Burrow, T. Tagovailoa, J. Luton, B. Perkins
RB: D. Swift, S. Michel, A. Mattison, R. Armstead, J. Jackson, Q. Ollison
WR: N. Harry, Mar. Brown, H. Ruggs III, M. Pittman Jr., A. Gandy-Golden, T. Johnson, G. Davis, Col. Johnson, I. Hodgins, M. Callaway, J. Thomas, Q. Davis, F. Swain
TE: N. Fant, H. Hurst, C. Herndon, T. Moss

2021 picks: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 5th

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby abloom » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:42 am

With that team, give me sutton and the firsts.

Can't really gauge how you will do to finish up this year. but you need some more fire power on that team, and those 1sts will give you just that.
Dynasty Team #1: 2019 2nd Place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 2flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Wentz, Tannehill, Haskins
RB: CMC, Fournette, Guice, Peterson, Armstead
WR: OBJ, Evans, Edelman, C Samuel
TE: Goedert, Henry
DST: NE, BAL
K: Zurlein

2020 picks: rounds 1.03 (Taylor),4.11 (Everett),5.11 (Bowden),7.11
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Dynasty Team #2: 2019 3rd place
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 1superflex, 1flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Wilson, Murray, Cousins, Tannehill
RB: Taylor, Dobbins, Swift, Gurley, Ingram, S Michel, Thompson, J Hill
WR: Nuk, Allen, Godwin, Sutton, Edwards, Funchess
TE: Fant, Hurst
K: Boswell
DST: PIT

2021 picks, 1,2,3,3,3,4,5,6,7
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Redraft 2019 Champs :dance:
10 team, 0.5ppr, 1qb, 1 rb, 2wr, 1 te, 2 flex, 1DST, 1K

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby mmass » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:52 am

if you think you can win the ship keep Jones... if you are a borderline team then I take Sutton and started getting ammo for the future.
Superflex Format Q(SF)RWWFFTDK 12 Team PPR
SF1 - Yr 2
Goff Ryan Darnold Dalton
CMC Cohen Hines
Hopkins Adams Boyd Jeffery Shepard Allison T.Williams Boykins Harmon
Andrews Waller
Pick 2.01


SF2 - Yr 7 - 2019 Champ
Wentz Dak Goff Grier Brisset
Cook Mixon Hyde Mattison Edmonds Boone
M.Thomas Sutton Edelman J.Landry
Kittle Goedart Higbee


SF3 - Yr 4
Watson Foles Menshew Brissett
Barkley Gordon Ja.Williams
OBJ Hopkins Evans Shepard VSM K.Harmon
Higbee Smith Howard
Pick 1.01


SF4 - Orphan Year 2
Dak Jones Brisset Taylor Keenum
Singletary Edmonds Armstead
Boyd Ridley Mclaurin Harry Washington D.Jax Boykins Hamilton Harmon K.Johnson Perriman Pettis Hurd
Andrews Goedart
Picks 1.02 1.03 1.05 1.10 2.02 2.03 3.01 3.02


Deep Format - QQRRWWWTTFFDDKK 10 team PPR
Deep 2 Yr 5
Brady Stafford Lock Dalton Brissett
CMC Mixon DJHyde Ja.Williams Cohen
Evans Hopkins Julio Edelman Gallup D.Jackson K.Johnson D.Hamiltion M.Boykin AB
Engram Gesicki Fant Herndon Dissly
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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby Rustycage » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:17 pm

Sutton side for me.
Team 1: 12 Team Dynasty IDP
QB - Wentz, Trubisky, Finley
RB - A. Jones, R. Freeman, Guice, Darrel Williams, Wilkins
WR - Golladay, Ridley, Sutton, Hardman, C. Davis, Pascal, D. Robinson, Cain,
TE - Fant, Doyle, Fells, Smith Jr, Gesicki
DL: Garret, Hargrave, Davenport, Linval, Simmons, Hand
LB: Evans, White, D. Campbell, Burgess, Hitchens, McKinney, Watt, Barron, Kendricks
DB: Butler, King, Kirkpatrick, Maye, Harris, Peterson

2020: 1.01,1.02,1.03,1.04,1.06,2.01,2.05,3.06,5.06

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby IR1 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:25 pm

Sutton side for me, should help a lot in the coming years
10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
QB- Wilson, Cousins, Winston, Luck
Kamara, Chubb, Mixon, Guice
WR-Hopkins, Evans, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Harry, JJAW
TE- Kelce, Howard, Fant
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, Hurst, Tillery
DE- JBosa, Hunter, Dunlap, Barnett
LB- D Jones, DLeonard, Edmunds, E Kendricks, REvans, Tavai, Pratt
CB- Moore, Needham, Bradberry
S- Byard, HSmith, James, Johnson
1.09

12 team SF QB/RB/WR/TE/ 3flex/1SF
QB- Wentz, Cousins, Lock, Bridgewater, Minshew
RB- KJohnson, Michel, Sanders, Hill, Walton
WR- Allen, Lockett, AJ Brown, JJAW, Meyers, DJax, AMiller, Sheppard, MJones, Kirk, Treadwell, KCole
TE- Ertz,, Fant, Hurst

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby Huddle3233 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:43 pm

That is a great return/haul for Julio. Give me the Sutton side all day.

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby jenkins.math » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:58 pm

Sutton all day and it isn't even close for me. Unless you have some funky scoring, the difference between the two players this season in PPR is 2.1 ppg. On top of that you're getting a player that is 6.5 years younger.
14 team dynasty, 25 man roster, keep 14, .5 PPR
QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 2Flex, D/ST, K, DL, LB, DE
QB: Ryan, Mayfield
RB: Barkley, Kerryon Johnson, Gus Edwards, Pollard, Brian Hill
WR: OBJ, Mike Evans, Juju, Cooks, Corey Davis, Dede Westbrook, Fitz
TE: Njoku, Jonnu
K: Slye
D/ST: Titans, Eagles
DL: Heyward
LB: Littleton
DB: Bell

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby BigBawseRoss » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:02 pm

i dont see how this is a question. sutton is currently scoring as a high end wr2 and julio a mid wr1, the age gap is massive and those are first round picks being offered.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Rivers , Rosen, Fitzpatrick, Tyrod
Kamara, McCoy, D FreemanCohen, Bibbs, Clement,J. Allen, ty mont,Ito Smith
K Allen, Hopkins, M Williams, AROB Alshon,KeKe,MVS,T McLaurin
Ebron Graham, Njoku, Irv

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Trubitsky, Dak
Chubb,Mixon, D Henry,Coleman, D Harris, Armstead, Mostert
Hopkins, K Allen, M Evans, C Davis, Watkins, Arob, M Williams, Edleman, J Gordon, Hurd
Ertz, Everett, Fant


team 3
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team 4
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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby perkinsrooster » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:15 pm

Take the value, Sutton side.

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby sebennayx » Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:26 pm

Thanks all, I sold Julio.

I'll be sitting 3rd (7-3), on the heels of 1st/2nd (8-2), with the most points scored and second most possible points. I like my players' matchups during the playoffs, and feel I can still contend even after the trade. I felt the long term gain was worth more than the short term risk.
RZ | 12tm | 0.5PPR | 1QB | 2RB | 2WR | 1TE | 1WR/TE | 1FLEX | 2011
QB: Ryan, Foles+
RB: Kamara, Fournette, Ingram, Mack, Harris, R.Anderson+
WR: MT, Godwin, Lockett, Keenan, Chark, Deebo+
TE: Andrews, Gronk, Higbee+
'20: 1.05, 1.12, 2.03, 2.10, 2.12+
'21: 1, 2, 2+


BL | 14tm | PPR | 1QB | 2RB | 3WR | 1TE | 1FLEX | 2017
QB: Dak, Baker, Tannehill
RB: Chubb, Conner, Bell, Murray+
WR: MT, Hopkins, Godwin, Thielen, Jeffery, Edwards+
TE: Kelce, Gesicki, Thomas
DL: Donald, TBD
LB: Schobert, J.Smith
DB: Collins, Walker
'21: 1+


MN | 14tm | PPR | TE 1.5PPR | 1QB | 2RB | 3WR | 1TE | 1FLEX | 2019
QB: Lock, Carr
RB: CMC, Singletary, Taylor+
WR: OBJ, Sutton, Ruggs, Reagor, Shenault, Robby, Harmon, Sims+
TE: Engram, Hooper, Sample, Trautman, Warring
'21: 1, 1, 1, 2+

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby ManuManu » Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:16 pm

I haven’t been offered anything near that for Julio. I had one GM tell me he wouldn’t pay more than a 2. Two other GMs offered single firsts.
Team 1, 10-team 0.5-PPR
QB (1): Wentz, Mayfield
RB (2-3): David Johnson, K. Johnson, D. Williams, Duke Johnson, Breida, Edmonds, D. Harris, J. Hill
WR (3-4): Hill, A-Rob, Diggs, Lockett, R Anderson, Fuller, P. Williams, Isabella
TE (1-2): Ertz, Njoku

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Re: Do you sell Julio to a contender

Postby sebennayx » Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:53 pm

ManuManu wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:16 pm
I haven’t been offered anything near that for Julio. I had one GM tell me he wouldn’t pay more than a 2. Two other GMs offered single firsts.
To be fair, the end result wasn't close to the initial discussions. It started with discussions around Chark, transitioned to Julio, and had to be built up from there.

I'm lucky to be in a few leagues with many owners who like to trade and are open to candid trade discussions.
RZ | 12tm | 0.5PPR | 1QB | 2RB | 2WR | 1TE | 1WR/TE | 1FLEX | 2011
QB: Ryan, Foles+
RB: Kamara, Fournette, Ingram, Mack, Harris, R.Anderson+
WR: MT, Godwin, Lockett, Keenan, Chark, Deebo+
TE: Andrews, Gronk, Higbee+
'20: 1.05, 1.12, 2.03, 2.10, 2.12+
'21: 1, 2, 2+


BL | 14tm | PPR | 1QB | 2RB | 3WR | 1TE | 1FLEX | 2017
QB: Dak, Baker, Tannehill
RB: Chubb, Conner, Bell, Murray+
WR: MT, Hopkins, Godwin, Thielen, Jeffery, Edwards+
TE: Kelce, Gesicki, Thomas
DL: Donald, TBD
LB: Schobert, J.Smith
DB: Collins, Walker
'21: 1+


MN | 14tm | PPR | TE 1.5PPR | 1QB | 2RB | 3WR | 1TE | 1FLEX | 2019
QB: Lock, Carr
RB: CMC, Singletary, Taylor+
WR: OBJ, Sutton, Ruggs, Reagor, Shenault, Robby, Harmon, Sims+
TE: Engram, Hooper, Sample, Trautman, Warring
'21: 1, 1, 1, 2+


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