Shopping Matt Stafford - 1QB League

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Shopping Matt Stafford - 1QB League

Postby Peepyopee » Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:11 am

Considering shopping Matt Stafford out to this contending team, what would you be looking to get back?

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Darnold, Sam NYJ QB
Newton, Cam CAR QB (I)
Rivers, Philip LAC QB
Barkley, Saquon NYG RB
Bernard, Giovani CIN RB
Bolden, Brandon NEP RB
Booker, Devontae DEN RB
Burkhead, Rex NEP RB
Conner, James PIT RB (D)
Gallman, Wayne NYG RB
Jones, Ronald TBB RB
Beasley, Cole BUF WR
Benjamin, Travis LAC WR (I)
Chark, D.J. JAC WR
Cobb, Randall DAL WR
Fowler, Bennie NYG WR
Ginn Jr., Ted NOS WR
Jeffery, Alshon PHI WR (Q)
Metcalf, DK SEA WR
Ridley, Riley CHI WR
Woods, Robert LAR WR
Wright, Jarius CAR WR
Eifert, Tyler CIN TE
Fells, Darren HOU TE
Hooper, Austin ATL TE

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League Started in 2018
12 Team, .5 PPR, 25 roster: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE(PPR), 1 FLEX (WR/RB)
QB: Deshaun Watson, Matt Stafford, Teddy Bridgewater
RB: Josh Jacobs, Kareem Hunt, Cam Akers,Joshua Kelley, DeeJay Dallas, Duke Johnson, Peyton Barber, Ryquell Armstead, Trayveon Williams, Royce Freeman
WR: DeAndre Hopkins, Tyreek Hill, AJ Brown, Courtland Sutton, Robert Woods, Michael Gallup, Steve Sims Jr., Hakeem Butler, Zay Jones, Willie Snead
TE: Evan Engram, Jonnu Smith, Chris Herndon, Jack Doyle, Dawson Knox

Picks:
2021: 2nd, 4th

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Re: Shopping Matt Stafford

Postby Gator Sens » Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:33 am

In a 1 QB, a 2nd would be huge but I'm guessing a 3rd is more likely.

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Re: Shopping Matt Stafford - 1QB League

Postby Peepyopee » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:00 am

I proposed:

Stafford for 2020 1st (lol)

counter from him:
Darnold and 2020 1st for Deshaun Watson

Counter from me:
Stafford for DK Metcalf

Metcalf would be a nice piece to add to a building team right?
League Started in 2018
12 Team, .5 PPR, 25 roster: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE(PPR), 1 FLEX (WR/RB)
QB: Deshaun Watson, Matt Stafford, Teddy Bridgewater
RB: Josh Jacobs, Kareem Hunt, Cam Akers,Joshua Kelley, DeeJay Dallas, Duke Johnson, Peyton Barber, Ryquell Armstead, Trayveon Williams, Royce Freeman
WR: DeAndre Hopkins, Tyreek Hill, AJ Brown, Courtland Sutton, Robert Woods, Michael Gallup, Steve Sims Jr., Hakeem Butler, Zay Jones, Willie Snead
TE: Evan Engram, Jonnu Smith, Chris Herndon, Jack Doyle, Dawson Knox

Picks:
2021: 2nd, 4th

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Re: Shopping Matt Stafford - 1QB League

Postby hingle » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:18 am

You basically countered him back with your same offer. I don't see this getting done if that is how you are valuing Stafford.

His offer was actually fair in my opinion.
12 Team PPR, 6pt TDs
1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1TE, 1Flex (W/R/T)
QB: A. Rodgers, C. Wentz, Bridgewater
RB: Zeke, J. Mixon, L. Fournette, K. Johnson (IR), A. Peterson, P. Barber, Crowell (IR)
WR: OBJ, M. Thomas, Sanders, Fitz, AJG, D. Thomas, Cobb, C. Conley, Pascal, Erickson, Allison
TE: E. Engram, J. Cook, G. Olsen, Doyle, Griffin
2020 Picks: none

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Re: Shopping Matt Stafford - 1QB League

Postby FantasyFoosball » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:33 am

LOL. Stafford is barely worth a third, if that, and you asked for a 2020 1st and then DK Metcalf. HAHAHAHAHAHA.... not gonna happen.
Team One:
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 7-4, 3rd Place
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - CMC, Drake, Carson, Mostert, Vaughn, Evans, Perine, Snell, Penny
WR - MT, Hopkins, Godwin, Woods, Miller, Campbell, Mims, Claypool
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki, Kmet
K - Gonzalez, Fairbairn
DL - Buckner, Heyward, Clark
LB - Leonard, Wagner, Roquan Smith, Singleton, Hewitt, Greenlaw, Alexander
DB - John Johnson, Logan Ryan, Jordan Fuller

2021 - 1st, 1st, 2nd
2022 - None

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14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 8-3, 2nd Place
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Mayfield, Carr, Fromm, Keenum
RB - Murray, AP, Justin Jackson, Booker, Lewis, Dallas, Snell Jr, Royce Freeman
WR - MT, Reagor, Beasley, Perriman, Reynolds, Jackson, Jeffery, G. Davis
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Graham, Fells

2021 - 1st, 3rd, 4th

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Re: Shopping Matt Stafford - 1QB League

Postby Gator Sens » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:34 am

If he accepts the Metcalf deal, it would be huge.

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Re: Shopping Matt Stafford - 1QB League

Postby Peepyopee » Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:42 am

FantasyFoosball wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:33 am
LOL. Stafford is barely worth a third, if that, and you asked for a 2020 1st and then DK Metcalf. HAHAHAHAHAHA.... not gonna happen.

All things have to start somewhere. My approach is right, HAHAHAHA.

I'm not sure anyone on this site would approach a trade with their lowest offer from the beginning.

If I'll take a 3rd, which starts as a 1st, and turns into a 2nd.. I'm out ahead.

Adding DK was to get him back on track with a 1st or 2nd rounder.

Create leverage.
League Started in 2018
12 Team, .5 PPR, 25 roster: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE(PPR), 1 FLEX (WR/RB)
QB: Deshaun Watson, Matt Stafford, Teddy Bridgewater
RB: Josh Jacobs, Kareem Hunt, Cam Akers,Joshua Kelley, DeeJay Dallas, Duke Johnson, Peyton Barber, Ryquell Armstead, Trayveon Williams, Royce Freeman
WR: DeAndre Hopkins, Tyreek Hill, AJ Brown, Courtland Sutton, Robert Woods, Michael Gallup, Steve Sims Jr., Hakeem Butler, Zay Jones, Willie Snead
TE: Evan Engram, Jonnu Smith, Chris Herndon, Jack Doyle, Dawson Knox

Picks:
2021: 2nd, 4th

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Re: Shopping Matt Stafford - 1QB League

Postby Mjvb5 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:48 am

Peepyopee wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:42 am
FantasyFoosball wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:33 am
LOL. Stafford is barely worth a third, if that, and you asked for a 2020 1st and then DK Metcalf. HAHAHAHAHAHA.... not gonna happen.

All things have to start somewhere. My approach is right, HAHAHAHA.

I'm not sure anyone on this site would approach a trade with their lowest offer from the beginning.

If I'll take a 3rd, which starts as a 1st, and turns into a 2nd.. I'm out ahead.

Adding DK was to get him back on track with a 1st or 2nd rounder.

Create leverage.
That is also how you get an owner to reject, not counter and go to someone else. Your offer will never be accepted by any competent owner.
There’s a difference between leverage and sending an offer that is no where near fair.
Leverage would be asking for a 2nd and a third or 4th then dropping the late pick.

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Re: Shopping Matt Stafford - 1QB League

Postby FantasyFoosball » Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:49 am

Peepyopee wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:42 am
FantasyFoosball wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:33 am
LOL. Stafford is barely worth a third, if that, and you asked for a 2020 1st and then DK Metcalf. HAHAHAHAHAHA.... not gonna happen.

All things have to start somewhere. My approach is right, HAHAHAHA.

I'm not sure anyone on this site would approach a trade with their lowest offer from the beginning.

If I'll take a 3rd, which starts as a 1st, and turns into a 2nd.. I'm out ahead.

Adding DK was to get him back on track with a 1st or 2nd rounder.

Create leverage.
Lol, no. DK Metcalf is worth a 1st. So you got turned down asking for a first, and then turned around and asked.... for a first again? If you were serious about trading Stafford you would have asked for a mid to late 2nd to begin with, and then taken the 3rd. The fact that you think you are getting a first rounder for Matt Stafford in a 1QB league is beyond laughable.

Good luck.
Team One:
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 7-4, 3rd Place
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes, Cousins
RB - CMC, Drake, Carson, Mostert, Vaughn, Evans, Perine, Snell, Penny
WR - MT, Hopkins, Godwin, Woods, Miller, Campbell, Mims, Claypool
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki, Kmet
K - Gonzalez, Fairbairn
DL - Buckner, Heyward, Clark
LB - Leonard, Wagner, Roquan Smith, Singleton, Hewitt, Greenlaw, Alexander
DB - John Johnson, Logan Ryan, Jordan Fuller

2021 - 1st, 1st, 2nd
2022 - None

Team Two:
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14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 8-3, 2nd Place
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Mayfield, Carr, Fromm, Keenum
RB - Murray, AP, Justin Jackson, Booker, Lewis, Dallas, Snell Jr, Royce Freeman
WR - MT, Reagor, Beasley, Perriman, Reynolds, Jackson, Jeffery, G. Davis
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Graham, Fells

2021 - 1st, 3rd, 4th

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Re: Shopping Matt Stafford - 1QB League

Postby Prison_Mike » Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:53 am

Mjvb5 wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:48 am
Peepyopee wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:42 am
FantasyFoosball wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:33 am
LOL. Stafford is barely worth a third, if that, and you asked for a 2020 1st and then DK Metcalf. HAHAHAHAHAHA.... not gonna happen.

All things have to start somewhere. My approach is right, HAHAHAHA.

I'm not sure anyone on this site would approach a trade with their lowest offer from the beginning.

If I'll take a 3rd, which starts as a 1st, and turns into a 2nd.. I'm out ahead.

Adding DK was to get him back on track with a 1st or 2nd rounder.

Create leverage.
That is also how you get an owner to reject, not counter and go to someone else. Your offer will never be accepted by any competent owner.
There’s a difference between leverage and sending an offer that is no where near fair.
Leverage would be asking for a 2nd and a third or 4th then dropping the late pick.
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I don't think you two are gonna be able to meet in the middle because you started (and persisted) too far in your favor

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Re: Shopping Matt Stafford - 1QB League

Postby Mjvb5 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:59 am

Prison_Mike wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:53 am
Mjvb5 wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:48 am
Peepyopee wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:42 am



All things have to start somewhere. My approach is right, HAHAHAHA.

I'm not sure anyone on this site would approach a trade with their lowest offer from the beginning.

If I'll take a 3rd, which starts as a 1st, and turns into a 2nd.. I'm out ahead.

Adding DK was to get him back on track with a 1st or 2nd rounder.

Create leverage.
That is also how you get an owner to reject, not counter and go to someone else. Your offer will never be accepted by any competent owner.
There’s a difference between leverage and sending an offer that is no where near fair.
Leverage would be asking for a 2nd and a third or 4th then dropping the late pick.
x2

I don't think you two are gonna be able to meet in the middle because you started (and persisted) too far in your favor
Yup one offer way off in value I’ll counter something leaning my way a decent bit. A counter to there at the same level (yours is a worse counter, DK>late 1st), and I’m dropping it

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Re: Shopping Matt Stafford - 1QB League

Postby RB6 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:00 pm

You're asking for way too much. I wouldn't take these offers seriously at all.
.5PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/2F
LJax, Lock, Burrow, Ben, Eason, Rosen
Adams, Julio, Kupp, Lockett, MWill, Shepard, Parris, Sims, Hamler, Fulgham, Duvernay, Van, Guyton, Boykin
Zeke, Ingram, Mostert, Hunt, Pollard, Hines, Adams
Andrews, Knox, Rodgers

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LF, Singletary, Robinson, Mack, Breida, Hines, D. Freeman, Duke, Royce
MT, DK, Allen, Kupp, Edelman, Crowder, G. Tate, Dede
Andrews, Allie-Cox, Schultz, Thomas

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Allen, Baker, Cam
MT, Ridley, Lockett, Landry, Parker, Miller, Shepard, Sims, Zaccheaus, Quez
MG, Singletary, Gibson, Cohen, Breida, Wilkins, Royce
Andrews, Henry, Knox, Olsen, Warring
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Re: Shopping Matt Stafford - 1QB League

Postby Peepyopee » Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:23 pm

He is the one reaching out to all owners with a QB that could be moved. I am fine having Stafford backing up Watson. No reason for me to go shopping my player for minimal return.

My league doesnt shut down trade conversations on a bad offer. We send it back and forth to see what sticks.
League Started in 2018
12 Team, .5 PPR, 25 roster: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE(PPR), 1 FLEX (WR/RB)
QB: Deshaun Watson, Matt Stafford, Teddy Bridgewater
RB: Josh Jacobs, Kareem Hunt, Cam Akers,Joshua Kelley, DeeJay Dallas, Duke Johnson, Peyton Barber, Ryquell Armstead, Trayveon Williams, Royce Freeman
WR: DeAndre Hopkins, Tyreek Hill, AJ Brown, Courtland Sutton, Robert Woods, Michael Gallup, Steve Sims Jr., Hakeem Butler, Zay Jones, Willie Snead
TE: Evan Engram, Jonnu Smith, Chris Herndon, Jack Doyle, Dawson Knox

Picks:
2021: 2nd, 4th

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Re: Shopping Matt Stafford - 1QB League

Postby Peepyopee » Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:27 pm

Also, I moved Mason Rudolph in this league for a 2020 1st.

We see player value what it is from a high level. If someone really needs a bye week fill in, injuries, etc the actual value of the player changes.

He is very desperate to on board a new QB. Im not desperate to take a 3rd pick I would probably have to taxi for 2-3 years and hope he hits.
League Started in 2018
12 Team, .5 PPR, 25 roster: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE(PPR), 1 FLEX (WR/RB)
QB: Deshaun Watson, Matt Stafford, Teddy Bridgewater
RB: Josh Jacobs, Kareem Hunt, Cam Akers,Joshua Kelley, DeeJay Dallas, Duke Johnson, Peyton Barber, Ryquell Armstead, Trayveon Williams, Royce Freeman
WR: DeAndre Hopkins, Tyreek Hill, AJ Brown, Courtland Sutton, Robert Woods, Michael Gallup, Steve Sims Jr., Hakeem Butler, Zay Jones, Willie Snead
TE: Evan Engram, Jonnu Smith, Chris Herndon, Jack Doyle, Dawson Knox

Picks:
2021: 2nd, 4th

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Re: Shopping Matt Stafford - 1QB League

Postby hingle » Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:35 pm

Peepyopee wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:27 pm
Also, I moved Mason Rudolph in this league for a 2020 1st.
That is ridiculous though. I'm not sure anyone on this site is going to be able to give you accurate advice based on your leagues very unique valuing of QBs and picks.
12 Team PPR, 6pt TDs
1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1TE, 1Flex (W/R/T)
QB: A. Rodgers, C. Wentz, Bridgewater
RB: Zeke, J. Mixon, L. Fournette, K. Johnson (IR), A. Peterson, P. Barber, Crowell (IR)
WR: OBJ, M. Thomas, Sanders, Fitz, AJG, D. Thomas, Cobb, C. Conley, Pascal, Erickson, Allison
TE: E. Engram, J. Cook, G. Olsen, Doyle, Griffin
2020 Picks: none


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