Baker/Darnold 2QB Trade

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Baker/Darnold 2QB Trade

Postby chadwilliam » Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:42 am

In my 10 Team H2H 2QB League I was offered the following trade -

I send - Sam Darnold, Melvin Gordon, and a 2020 Late 1st
I receive - Baker Mayfield and DJ Moore

Overall, I am looking to upgrade my QB position and get younger at my RB or WR. I currently have three other 2020 1sts that project to be in the top half of the draft. Is this trade worth making? My team is in my signature. Any thoughts or opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
10 Team PPR 2QB Roster (Keep 20) (2QB/2RB/2WR/2TE/2FLEX) (As of 2/18):

QB: Prescott, Mayfield, Newton, Roethlisberger, Tannehill
RB: Kamara, Cook, Lindsay, Montgomery, J. Hill
WR: Adams, Beckham Jr., Smith-Schuster, Moore, Boyd, D. Samuel, Slayton, Parker, Cooks, Anderson
TE: Engram, Hockenson, O. Howard, Higbee

2020 picks - 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd
2021 picks - 1st, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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Re: Baker/Darnold 2QB Trade

Postby abloom » Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:43 am

I'd look elsewhere. I don't really see how this trade benefits you in either the short term or long term.
Dynasty Team #1: 2019 2nd Place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 2flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Rivers, Tannehill, Haskins
RB: CMC, Fournette, Samuels, Guice, Peterson, Armstead, R Anderson, McKinnon
WR: OBJ, Evans, Edelman, C Samuel, Walton
TE: Witten, Goedert, Henry
DST: NE, BAL
K: Zurlein

2020 picks: rounds 1.09,1.11,4.11,5.04,5.11,7.11
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Dynasty Team #2: 2019 3rd place
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 1superflex, 1flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Wilson, Murray, Cousins, Tannehill
RB: Gurley, Ingram, S Michel, Breida, AP, J Hill
WR: Nuk, Allen, Godwin, Sutton
TE: Felles, Fant, J Smith, Warring
K: Boswell
DST: PIT

2020 picks: 1.03, 1.07, 1.10, 2.07, 3.03, 3.10, 4.01, 4.02, 5.10, 7.10
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Redraft 2019 Champs :dance:
10 team, 0.5ppr, 1qb, 1 rb, 2wr, 1 te, 2 flex, 1DST, 1K

Keeper: Kamara

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Re: Baker/Darnold 2QB Trade

Postby jonesmaster » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:47 am

I actually like this trade. I assume youre also scared of the long term potential of MG and Sam. Its always best to sell guys that you think will plummet even further, even if at a present loss. There's nothing worse than waiting on a rebound you think isn't even going to happen or trying to find a guy out there willing to pay par value. I think you get a much better long term asset at QB and DJ Moore looks like a stud. Maybe try and lower the price but i like that you're doing here.
10-team Full PPR Scoring: 1QB, 2WR, 2RB, 1FLX, 1 SFLX, 1TE, 1D/ST, K

QB: Wilson , Watson , Baker, Teddy B, Stidham
RB: Ekeler , Drake , White, Coleman, Gio, Lewis, Wilkins
WR: Tyreek , MT , Juju, Landry, Mike Will, Robby Anderson, Dede
TE: Kittle , Brate, Njoku, Dissly
D/ST: Bills, Colts, Vikings

2020 Picks: 1.05, 1.07, 2.01, 2.06, 2.07 2021 Picks: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3

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Re: Baker/Darnold 2QB Trade

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Nov 07, 2019 8:58 am

I could see making this deal if you believe in Mayfield long term. Where we are today, this is an overpay. Mayfield has regressed big time.
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12 Team, PPR, 30 roster: 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 FLEX, 1 DST, 1 K
QB: Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen
RB: Alvin Kamara, Joe Mixon, Rodney Anderson
WR: Kenny Golladay, Chris Godwin, Calvin Ridley, Courtland Sutton, Dede Westbrook, Christian Kirk, Mike Williams, Mecole Hardman, Josh Reynolds, Equanimeous St. Brown
TE: O.J. Howard, David Njoku, Greg Olsen, Ian Thomas

Picks: 2020: 1.01, 1.03, 2.12, 3.11, 4.08, 5.08 2021: 1st, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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Re: Baker/Darnold 2QB Trade

Postby RB6 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:27 am

I'd do it. I like Baker over Darnold and Moore over Gordon long term. I think the gap between the respective two is more than a late first combined.
Team 1
10 Team Devy SF .5 PPR 1QB 3WR 2RB 1TE 1SF 2Flex
QB: Watson, Wilson, Tannehill, Lock, Grier
WR: MT, Diggs, Woods, Boyd, Shepard, Deebo, Pascal, S. Sims
RB: Barkley, Ingram, Lindsay, Royce, Henderson, Justice, Boone, Gaskin
TE: Andrews, J. Smith, Higbee
Devy: Tua, Reagor, Akers

Team 2
12 Team .5 PPR 1QB 3WR 2RB 1TE 2Flex
QB: Watson, Garoppolo, Darnold
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Julio, Kupp, Lockett, Shepard, G. Tate, A. Miller, Pascal, A. Tate, Hamilton, Gage, Perriman, S. Sims, ESB
RB: Zeke, Jacobs, Carson, Darwin, Armstead, De. Washington, R. Anderson, Homer
TE: Andrews, Herndon, Dissly, Moreau

Team 3
12 Team SF PPR 1QB 3WR 2RB 1TE 1SF 2Flex
QB: Mahomes, Rodgers, Carr, Mullens, Stick
RB: Chubb, Fournette, KJ, D. Freeman, C. Thompson, Hilliard, Laird, Adams
WR: Allen, Kupp, Boyd, Dede, A. Miller, G. Tate, Crowder, A. Tate, Pascal, Hamilton, S. Sims, ESB
TE: Andrews, Thomas

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Re: Baker/Darnold 2QB Trade

Postby Goddard » Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:43 am

Baker = Darnold
Moore < Gordon + 1st

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Re: Baker/Darnold 2QB Trade

Postby jetsfan5757 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:33 am

RB6 wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:27 am
I'd do it. I like Baker over Darnold and Moore over Gordon long term. I think the gap between the respective two is more than a late first combined.
Yup. This.
Dynasty League (25 man rosters + 2 IR, non-PPR scoring. QB/3RB/3WR/2TE/K/DB/LB/DL no flex)

QB (1): Brees, Winston, Darnold
RB (3): David Johnson, N. Chubb, D. Guice, D. Henry, T. Coleman, C. Thompson
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, J. Smith-Schuster, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, D. Pettis, P. Williams
TE (2): H. Henry, O.J. Howard, I. Thomas

K (1): Wil Lutz

DB (1): Landon Collins
LB (1): Luke Kuechly
DL (1): JJ Watt

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Re: Baker/Darnold 2QB Trade

Postby jonesmaster » Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:59 pm

Goddard wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:43 am
Baker = Darnold
Moore < Gordon + 1st
Baker = Darnold is really aggressive. Dont see how that can be justified whatsoever. I mean this season Baker is still putting up Darnold's career average Fantasy PPG, and its pretty obvious this is not a "good year" for Baker.
10-team Full PPR Scoring: 1QB, 2WR, 2RB, 1FLX, 1 SFLX, 1TE, 1D/ST, K

QB: Wilson , Watson , Baker, Teddy B, Stidham
RB: Ekeler , Drake , White, Coleman, Gio, Lewis, Wilkins
WR: Tyreek , MT , Juju, Landry, Mike Will, Robby Anderson, Dede
TE: Kittle , Brate, Njoku, Dissly
D/ST: Bills, Colts, Vikings

2020 Picks: 1.05, 1.07, 2.01, 2.06, 2.07 2021 Picks: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3

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Re: Baker/Darnold 2QB Trade

Postby mmass » Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:08 pm

Goddard wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:43 am
Baker = Darnold
Moore < Gordon + 1st
This
Superflex Format Q(SF)RWWFFTDK 12 Team PPR
SF1 - Yr1
Goff Cousins Darnold Dalton
CMC Cohen Hines
Hopkins Boyd Lockett Jeffery Shepard Allison T.Williams Parker Boykins Harmon
Waller Njuku
Pick 1.11


SF2 - Yr 6 - 2019 Champ
Wentz Rothlisberger Dak Taylor Brisset
Zeke Cook Mixon Hyde Breida Edmonds Gio
M.Thomas Edelman Mclurin J.Landry Kirk
Hooper Goedart


SF3 - Yr 3
Watson Foles Menshew Brissett
Barkley Gordon Ja.Williams
OBJ Hopkins Evans Shepard VSM K.Harmon
Howard Smith Warring
Pick 1.03


SF4 - Orphan Year 1
Dak Jones Brisset Taylor Keenum
Singletary Edmonds
Boyd Ridley Mclaurin Harry Washington D.Jax Boykins Hamilton Harmon K.Johnson Perriman Pettis Hurd
Andrews Goedart
Picks 1.02 1.03 1.05 1.10 2.02 2.03 3.01 3.02


Deep Format - QQRRWWWTTFFDDKK 10 team PPR
Deep 2 Yr 4
Brady Stafford Brissett Dalton Lock
CMC DJ Mixon Hyde Ja.Williams Cohen
Evans Hopkins Julio Edelman Kupp Gallup D.Jackson K.Johnson D.Hamiltion M.Boykin AB
Engram Gesicki Fant Herndon Dissly

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Re: Baker/Darnold 2QB Trade

Postby Goddard » Thu Nov 07, 2019 2:22 pm

jonesmaster wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:59 pm
Goddard wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:43 am
Baker = Darnold
Moore < Gordon + 1st
Baker = Darnold is really aggressive. Dont see how that can be justified whatsoever. I mean this season Baker is still putting up Darnold's career average Fantasy PPG, and its pretty obvious this is not a "good year" for Baker.
In a 1QB league, neither is worth much. Whether or not someone thinks Baker is worth more, the difference is negligible. It's like saying a mid/late 2nd is worth more than a late 2nd.


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