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Nagy will go back to ignoring him soon.
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That is pretty much what I am wondering.
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Re: David Montgomery
Did he actually look good? Didn't get a chance to watch any of this game but i'm being careful not to just box score watch.
Last week Chase Edmonds went off but I heard a few experts claim he didn't actually look that good and that box score watches will jump all over that performance.
Last week Chase Edmonds went off but I heard a few experts claim he didn't actually look that good and that box score watches will jump all over that performance.
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He looked extremely good at not going down on the first hit and fighting for extra yards. He did not look very fast or explosive. Basically he looked exactly like what all the predraft analysis indicated he would.AussieMate wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:03 pm Did he actually look good? Didn't get a chance to watch any of this game but i'm being careful not to just box score watch.
Last week Chase Edmonds went off but I heard a few experts claim he didn't actually look that good and that box score watches will jump all over that performance.
Re: David Montgomery
I think the balance in the offense he provided, and taking the pressure off of Trubisky will have Nagy ensuring Montgomery gets more carries going forward. I was surprised how few touches he had the first seven weeks.
I could be wrong though and they go back to ignoring him. It's a disappointing situation.
I could be wrong though and they go back to ignoring him. It's a disappointing situation.
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Re: David Montgomery
Cheers, I have since watched a bit and agree, he looks like the player people expected him to be. Now the Bears need to keep feeding him as he is definitely a volume rb rather than an explosive play guy like say Jones who you don't want to get 25 touches.CubfanAA wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:45 amHe looked extremely good at not going down on the first hit and fighting for extra yards. He did not look very fast or explosive. Basically he looked exactly like what all the predraft analysis indicated he would.AussieMate wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:03 pm Did he actually look good? Didn't get a chance to watch any of this game but i'm being careful not to just box score watch.
Last week Chase Edmonds went off but I heard a few experts claim he didn't actually look that good and that box score watches will jump all over that performance.
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Re: David Montgomery
The bears offense can barely and I mean barely sustain 1
Relevant fantasy player a week. They are bad. They need recievers in Chicago. The don scare the dbs. So
They just stack the box every play. That plus poor blocking and Montys lucky to have any yards. He’s constantly getting hit 2-3 yards behind the LOS as well. If they can get some sort of relevance from The pass game, then they won’t see that many in the box anymore and Monty will put together good games.
The play callings terrible though, the i form which was working for them for 3 quarters but must had been working a little to well, because he abandoned it to try and do his tricky plays so he can stroke his own ego. He would rather lose trying to make a trick play work then when playing the game of football.
Relevant fantasy player a week. They are bad. They need recievers in Chicago. The don scare the dbs. So
They just stack the box every play. That plus poor blocking and Montys lucky to have any yards. He’s constantly getting hit 2-3 yards behind the LOS as well. If they can get some sort of relevance from The pass game, then they won’t see that many in the box anymore and Monty will put together good games.
The play callings terrible though, the i form which was working for them for 3 quarters but must had been working a little to well, because he abandoned it to try and do his tricky plays so he can stroke his own ego. He would rather lose trying to make a trick play work then when playing the game of football.
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Re: David Montgomery
Receiver isn't their problem, it's the QB who doesn't scare DBS, Arob certainly worries dbspurplepride28 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:05 pm The bears offense can barely and I mean barely sustain 1
Relevant fantasy player a week. They are bad. They need recievers in Chicago. The don scare the dbs. So
They just stack the box every play. That plus poor blocking and Montys lucky to have any yards. He’s constantly getting hit 2-3 yards behind the LOS as well. If they can get some sort of relevance from The pass game, then they won’t see that many in the box anymore and Monty will put together good games.
The play callings terrible though, the i form which was working for them for 3 quarters but must had been working a little to well, because he abandoned it to try and do his tricky plays so he can stroke his own ego. He would rather lose trying to make a trick play work then when playing the game of football.
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Re: David Montgomery
Robinson is the “scariest” of the bunch. But I would argue with the way Nagy runs his offense that nfl teams are more afraid of cpatt or Taylor Gabriel in the screen short pass misdirection.(still not that scared) Because if that works it starts opening up recievers downfield. Teams watched tape in the offseason figured that out and take that away first, letting trubisky make the decisions on where the ball goes and that hasn’t worked out to well for the bears.AussieMate wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:04 amReceiver isn't their problem, it's the QB who doesn't scare DBS, Arob certainly worries dbspurplepride28 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:05 pm The bears offense can barely and I mean barely sustain 1
Relevant fantasy player a week. They are bad. They need recievers in Chicago. The don scare the dbs. So
They just stack the box every play. That plus poor blocking and Montys lucky to have any yards. He’s constantly getting hit 2-3 yards behind the LOS as well. If they can get some sort of relevance from The pass game, then they won’t see that many in the box anymore and Monty will put together good games.
The play callings terrible though, the i form which was working for them for 3 quarters but must had been working a little to well, because he abandoned it to try and do his tricky plays so he can stroke his own ego. He would rather lose trying to make a trick play work then when playing the game of football.
Robinson is good but he’s not a reciever you have to gameplan for. Don’t need to double cover him to slow down production etc.
last year everyone though let the bears offense was very productive and trubisky was being called the next Jim McMahon, and Robinson had 94 targets turn into 55/754/4 58ypg 13 games.
He’s had one great season in Jacksonville because he had 151 targets. The next year he had the same exact amount of targets and had half Of the production. In 6 years he’s only had 2 seasons over 800 yards.
If I was a defensive coordinator I wouldn’t be losing any sleep at all facing Robinson as that weeks #1 wr for the other team.
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Re: David Montgomery
He was coming back from ACL last year and then hurt his groin iirc during the season. How about looking at this year's #s?purplepride28 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:37 pmRobinson is the “scariest” of the bunch. But I would argue with the way Nagy runs his offense that nfl teams are more afraid of cpatt or Taylor Gabriel in the screen short pass misdirection.(still not that scared) Because if that works it starts opening up recievers downfield. Teams watched tape in the offseason figured that out and take that away first, letting trubisky make the decisions on where the ball goes and that hasn’t worked out to well for the bears.AussieMate wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:04 amReceiver isn't their problem, it's the QB who doesn't scare DBS, Arob certainly worries dbspurplepride28 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:05 pm The bears offense can barely and I mean barely sustain 1
Relevant fantasy player a week. They are bad. They need recievers in Chicago. The don scare the dbs. So
They just stack the box every play. That plus poor blocking and Montys lucky to have any yards. He’s constantly getting hit 2-3 yards behind the LOS as well. If they can get some sort of relevance from The pass game, then they won’t see that many in the box anymore and Monty will put together good games.
The play callings terrible though, the i form which was working for them for 3 quarters but must had been working a little to well, because he abandoned it to try and do his tricky plays so he can stroke his own ego. He would rather lose trying to make a trick play work then when playing the game of football.
Robinson is good but he’s not a reciever you have to gameplan for. Don’t need to double cover him to slow down production etc.
last year everyone though let the bears offense was very productive and trubisky was being called the next Jim McMahon, and Robinson had 94 targets turn into 55/754/4 58ypg 13 games.
He’s had one great season in Jacksonville because he had 151 targets. The next year he had the same exact amount of targets and had half Of the production. In 6 years he’s only had 2 seasons over 800 yards.
If I was a defensive coordinator I wouldn’t be losing any sleep at all facing Robinson as that weeks #1 wr for the other team.
66 targets 46 catches 526 yds 3 TDs in 7 games.
He's on pace for 100 caches 1100 yds and 6 TDs catching balls from Trubs & Chase Daniel. I wish we could see ARob with a real QB. But yeah DCs are more worried about Gabriel & CPatt.
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Re: David Montgomery
if I was looking at box scores, you know who I wouldn't be afraid of? the slow rookie rb averaging 3.7 a pop.purplepride28 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:37 pmRobinson is the “scariest” of the bunch. But I would argue with the way Nagy runs his offense that nfl teams are more afraid of cpatt or Taylor Gabriel in the screen short pass misdirection.(still not that scared) Because if that works it starts opening up recievers downfield. Teams watched tape in the offseason figured that out and take that away first, letting trubisky make the decisions on where the ball goes and that hasn’t worked out to well for the bears.AussieMate wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:04 amReceiver isn't their problem, it's the QB who doesn't scare DBS, Arob certainly worries dbspurplepride28 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:05 pm The bears offense can barely and I mean barely sustain 1
Relevant fantasy player a week. They are bad. They need recievers in Chicago. The don scare the dbs. So
They just stack the box every play. That plus poor blocking and Montys lucky to have any yards. He’s constantly getting hit 2-3 yards behind the LOS as well. If they can get some sort of relevance from The pass game, then they won’t see that many in the box anymore and Monty will put together good games.
The play callings terrible though, the i form which was working for them for 3 quarters but must had been working a little to well, because he abandoned it to try and do his tricky plays so he can stroke his own ego. He would rather lose trying to make a trick play work then when playing the game of football.
Robinson is good but he’s not a reciever you have to gameplan for. Don’t need to double cover him to slow down production etc.
last year everyone though let the bears offense was very productive and trubisky was being called the next Jim McMahon, and Robinson had 94 targets turn into 55/754/4 58ypg 13 games.
He’s had one great season in Jacksonville because he had 151 targets. The next year he had the same exact amount of targets and had half Of the production. In 6 years he’s only had 2 seasons over 800 yards.
If I was a defensive coordinator I wouldn’t be losing any sleep at all facing Robinson as that weeks #1 wr for the other team.
Why are people acting like Monty isn't getting a shot? he's been a workhorse outside of 2 games and his results have been near terrible in the majority of them.
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Re: David Montgomery
Hard to gain any yards when nobody in front of you can hold a block. Like him long term, not a believer this season.
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Re: David Montgomery
Lots of people fighting very hard to see what they want to see with Montgomery. It's very hard to get a read on a back working with a bad line. I'm not sure how people on either side of this debate are so confident in what they are 'seeing' yet. I'm reluctant to say that he definitively looks to have less burst than Jacobs for instance, because I haven't seen Montgomery with a clear runway often enough to judge that. I don't think he is going to be the plodder some of you want him to be, but it's hard to call. I'm also not sure that his contact balance is going to win him battles, rather than just make him a tough tackle- again because he rarely has enough momentum to make a reasonable judgment.
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Re: David Montgomery
I think it is pretty clear and obvious he isn't some crazy dynamic back. All of his strengths and weaknesses are showing. He looks like a decent power back. For fantasy that simply means 1) is he attached to a good QB to get him rz work? 2) is he getting pass catching work? 3) does he have difference makers blocking for him?Factory of Sadness wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:01 am Lots of people fighting very hard to see what they want to see with Montgomery. It's very hard to get a read on a back working with a bad line. I'm not sure how people on either side of this debate are so confident in what they are 'seeing' yet. I'm reluctant to say that he definitively looks to have less burst than Jacobs for instance, because I haven't seen Montgomery with a clear runway often enough to judge that. I don't think he is going to be the plodder some of you want him to be, but it's hard to call. I'm also not sure that his contact balance is going to win him battles, rather than just make him a tough tackle- again because he rarely has enough momentum to make a reasonable judgment.
I would say no to those 3 but it's not like he is terrible, he's an RB2 for at least the next 16-28 months so a solid flex on a good roster.
Re: David Montgomery
https://clutchpoints.com/bears-matt-nag ... the-lions/
Looking like this could possibly be a big week for Montgomery owners - especially since the Bears have shed Mike Davis (who was getting little usage regardless - extra confirmation for Montgomery).
Looking like this could possibly be a big week for Montgomery owners - especially since the Bears have shed Mike Davis (who was getting little usage regardless - extra confirmation for Montgomery).
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