Mattison Value?

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Mattison Value?

Postby BucBuc » Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:04 pm

I'm offering early 2020 2nd round pick...Good.. bad?
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Re: Mattison Value?

Postby Dibbles » Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:29 pm

That's more than fair in my eyes, he looks great but has a major roadblock to significant playing time barring injury. I'd think mid-to-late 2nd is more appropriate.

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Re: Mattison Value?

Postby Gator Sens » Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:31 pm

Late 2nd for long term hope.
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Re: Mattison Value?

Postby bigbuck22 » Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:34 pm

Gator Sens wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:31 pm
Late 2nd for long term hope.
Agree! Cook isn't going anywhere for a few years. There would need to be an injury or a trade for Mattison to get a grip on anything. Highly unlikely Minnesota is trading a talented dirt cheap option.

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Re: Mattison Value?

Postby Jcedwards » Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:37 pm

Early 2nd is too much for me. As others have said, Cook isn’t going anywhere for the next few years, so Mattison will be stuck behind him and has minimal value, unless an injury occurs. Mid-late 2nd is more appropriate.
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WR- M Thomas / OBJ / Cooper / Lockett / Fitzgerald / Perriman
TE- Ertz / Goedert / Njoku
D/ST- Bears / Pats
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Re: Mattison Value?

Postby Gator Sens » Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:37 pm

bigbuck22 wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:34 pm
Gator Sens wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:31 pm
Late 2nd for long term hope.
Agree! Cook isn't going anywhere for a few years. There would need to be an injury or a trade for Mattison to get a grip on anything. Highly unlikely Minnesota is trading a talented dirt cheap option.
I kind of view the situation like Tomlinson and Turner (provided Mattison keeps developing). Turner had to wait a few years, move on and then was a beast for a couple years elsewhere as a starter.
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Re: Mattison Value?

Postby bigbuck22 » Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:00 pm

Gator Sens wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:37 pm
bigbuck22 wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:34 pm
Gator Sens wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:31 pm
Late 2nd for long term hope.
Agree! Cook isn't going anywhere for a few years. There would need to be an injury or a trade for Mattison to get a grip on anything. Highly unlikely Minnesota is trading a talented dirt cheap option.
I kind of view the situation like Tomlinson and Turner (provided Mattison keeps developing). Turner had to wait a few years, move on and then was a beast for a couple years elsewhere as a starter.
Perhaps true... I would expect Mattison to have the same value in a year. Giving a 2nd in this draft doesn't make a lot of sense if you can give a 2nd in the following draft

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Re: Mattison Value?

Postby DynastyDabbler » Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:06 pm

I tried buying Mattison in my league for a 2nd + Duke Johnson and it got declined. I have a competing team and am a Cook owner. Also, Duke is expendable for me. I knew I was overpaying but I wanted that Cook insurance. I wouldn't say Cook isn't going anywhere, All it takes is a hamstring issue for Cook and he'll be out for weeks. Mattison immediately becomes a RB 1.
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Re: Mattison Value?

Postby snaps06 » Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:47 pm

DynastyDabbler wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:06 pm
I tried buying Mattison in my league for a 2nd + Duke Johnson and it got declined. I have a competing team and am a Cook owner. Also, Duke is expendable for me. I knew I was overpaying but I wanted that Cook insurance. I wouldn't say Cook isn't going anywhere, All it takes is a hamstring issue for Cook and he'll be out for weeks. Mattison immediately becomes a RB 1.
I own Mattison in 4 of my 5 dynasty leagues. I imagine most owners are like me: we're holding out until Cook goes down, and then Mattison will either be A) a league winner for us on a competitive team, or B) a huge selling piece to a competitive team, potentially even for a future 1st.
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REBUILDING 2019
QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex Flex
Kyler,Stafford,Rosen
JonWilliams,Duke,Gio,Yeldon,Mattison,Snell,DarwinT
Cooper,Juju,Godwin,Kirk,Washington,AJBrown,Reynolds
Henry,Andrews,Everett
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QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex
Rodgers,Rivers,Stafford
Zeke,Conner,Bell,Hyde,Duke,Mattison,Scarborough,Edmonds
Hopkins,Thomas,Cooks,Watkins,MWilliams,PWill
Kittle,Henry,Ebron
2020: 2,3

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QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex Flex SFlex
Cousins,Kyler,Hoyer
Zeke,LMurray,Ingram,Scarborough,Gio,BHill
Evans,DJMoore,Watkins,Boyd,Davis,Lazard
Fant,McDonald,Fells

Team 4: 16-Team, 6 pt all TD,PPR Startup 2019
QB RB RB WR WR TE FLEX FLEX
Stafford,Mariota,Tanny, Rosen
KJ,Jacobs,RFreeman,Mattison,BHill
DJMoore,Watkins,Lockett,Isabella,Washington,Ross
Fells,Howard,Herndon
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Re: Mattison Value?

Postby AresGodOWar » Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:38 am

Team 3 - Someone just offered me Mattison for Drake , I took it since I have Cook.

Team 2 - I moved Mattison for Darwin , Anderson (Cinn hurt RB) , 2nd , 3rd.

Overall I would pay a early 2nd if I had Cook , I would sell for a mid 2nd if I didn't have Cook
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QB-L.Jackson, J.Goff, C.Newton
RB-M.Gordon, D.Cook, A.Ekeler, J.Jackson
WR-O.Beckham, D.Adams, M.Thomas, A.Brown, T.Boyd, D.Parker
TE-G.Kittle, D.Waller, I.Thomas
Taxi-A.Mattison, F.Moreau, R.Dwelley

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TE-T.Higbee, I.Thomas, J.Smith
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(TEAM 3) 12 Team, .15 PPC, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-D.Watson, D.Carr
RB-J.Mixon, D.Cook, R.Jones, A.Mattison, P.Barber, G.Bernard
WR-J.Smith-Schuster, S.Diggs, K.Golladay, T.Boyd, T.Williams, G.Allison, D.Hamilton
TE-D.Waller, I.Thomas, F.Moreau

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QB-L.Jackson, J.Allen, J.Flacco
RB-E.Elliott, T.Gurley, K.Drake, C.Hyde, T.Pollard
WR-K.Allen, S.Watkins, A.Lazard, J.Reynolds, R.Cobb, G.Allison
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Re: Mattison Value?

Postby srlarson » Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:51 am

2nd may be fair......but the owner may not sell.......

If I could buy for a 2nd I would....In leagues where I have him...I am not moving him for that.....will have to be an overpay to sell.......
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RB - Bell, Ingram, J Jacobs, AP, J Williams (GB), Barber, Armstead, R Anderson (IR), T Williams, B Scott, D Washington
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Re: Mattison Value?

Postby Eight7Seven » Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:55 am

I like Mattison, I suspect I'll own him in several leagues next season. This is not time to trade for him, people are excited about his ability and he had the rookie boost going for him. He's in a terrible fantasy situation and I suspect after owning him for a season or more without being able to start him his owners will sell him for considerable less in the future.

This does leave to risk the chance of Cook going down and Mattison's value exploding.
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