Trade vetoed by league. I need the forum to settle it.

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This trade WAS vetoed. Should it have been? (See below for details)

Yes, the league was right to veto this trade
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No, the league was wrong to veto this trade
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Total votes: 64

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Trade vetoed by league. I need the forum to settle it.

Postby PBFalcon » Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:53 pm

No collusion was involved. Should this trade have been vetoed. Dynasty format of course.

Team A gives:
2nd Rd pick (looks to be # 1)
3rd Rd pick (late)
John Ross
Andy Isabella
JJ Arcega-Whiteside

Team B gives:
Leonard Fournette

Team A is in win now mode. Team B is playing for the future.
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Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 4 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 K, 1 Def

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2019 2nd
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QB: P Mahomes
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WR: J Jefferson, J Chase, J Waddle, DK Metcalf, J Addison, T Dell, J Downs, M Williams, K Toney, , C Claypool
TE: K Pitts, G Kittle
K: Stream
Def: SF

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Re: Trade vetoed by league. I need the forum to settle it.

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:04 pm

Not a great trade but the rebuilding team got a bunch of young upside assets. This is a ridiculous veto.

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Re: Trade vetoed by league. I need the forum to settle it.

Postby hoos89 » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:06 pm

Very lopsided in favor of the team getting Fournette. This is, what, 2 seconds and 3 thirds? Maybe 3 seconds and 2 thirds if I'm being generous.

I've let worse trades stand, though. I'd be looking for a new league that doesn't vote on vetoes...that system is just asking for abuse. Seems like the league vetoed because this trade made a contender significantly better...I doubt they would have vetoed if this trade was trade going the other direction.
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JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
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Re: Trade vetoed by league. I need the forum to settle it.

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:08 pm

hoos89 wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:06 pm Very lopsided in favor of the team getting Fournette. This is, what, 2 seconds and 3 thirds? Maybe 3 seconds and 2 thirds if I'm being generous.

I've let worse trades stand, though. I'd be looking for a new league that doesn't vote on vetoes...that system is just asking for abuse.
I was thinking the same thing. Any veto outside of something absurd, is grounds to be done. If two owners agree on a trade, it's a deal.

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Re: Trade vetoed by league. I need the forum to settle it.

Postby TimeWillTell » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:15 pm

Didn’t even read it. No veto. Period. (Outside of collision)
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Re: Trade vetoed by league. I need the forum to settle it.

Postby Blumpy » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:23 pm

No collusion no veto
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TE- Andrews

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Re: Trade vetoed by league. I need the forum to settle it.

Postby FantasyFoosball » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:47 pm

Get out of that league before you waste any more time. Atrocious.
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Re: Trade vetoed by league. I need the forum to settle it.

Postby LMS123 » Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:06 pm

I didn’t even read the trade before voting, if trades are vetoed in your league, find a new league
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Re: Trade vetoed by league. I need the forum to settle it.

Postby vixen » Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:26 pm

I like Isabella and JJAW, I would rather that side.. but it is a fair trade
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qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
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Re: Trade vetoed by league. I need the forum to settle it.

Postby badbuddah » Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:47 pm

LMS123 wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:06 pm I didn’t even read the trade before voting, if trades are vetoed in your league, find a new league
Our league only has it for collusion. In 6 years I don't think we have had a single veto. How would you handle collusion if no veto? While I agree no veto if no collusion, if I was in a league where the top guy suddenly fleeced a dude and became unbeatable I'd probably just leave the league. We are having an issue where me and a couple other guys are stacked because of bad trade partners and I worry others may leave fearing they can't compete with us.
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Re: Trade vetoed by league. I need the forum to settle it.

Postby hoos89 » Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:55 pm

You don't have league votes on trade vetoes because stuff like this happens. Of course you're somewhat subject to the whims of the commissioner in that case, but that's sort of always true.
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Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
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Re: Trade vetoed by league. I need the forum to settle it.

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:51 pm

anichol8 wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:53 pm No collusion was involved.
I stopped reading here. No veto.
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Re: Trade vetoed by league. I need the forum to settle it.

Postby Slackalacker » Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:58 pm

That’s silly to be vetoed. Last year the player getting fournette would have been laughed at. Now that he’s performing again it’s the other way around. Who is to say jjaw doesnt take off and become the eagles lead wr next year?

The Fournette side won by maybe an early 1st in value but that could change if he makes a dumb mistake and the team reprimands him.
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Re: Trade vetoed by league. I need the forum to settle it.

Postby chubnubbin » Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:30 pm

No veto.

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Re: Trade vetoed by league. I need the forum to settle it.

Postby sloth8u » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:04 am

Id suppose if your league has veto....this is one that could/should get vetoed.

Lenny top 30 type asset. Jjaw and isabella are viewed around 100 by most. Would anyone actually buy ross, and then the picks....team A through crap at the wall and it stuck.

I dont have veto in any of my leagues, but if there was...id imagine this to be the type of deal to get vetoed.


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