2019 Week 7

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Re: 2019 Week 7

Postby 95dent » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:18 pm

bjd5211 wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:31 pm
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abloom wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 6:27 pm

You can walk around with a torn acl
True enough, but I'm talking about walking back onto the field, you may indeed walk with a torn ACL but I would think it's not terribly prudent to do so immediately after the diagnosis
There's no way of diagnosing a torn ACL this quickly.
Fully confirm, no a scan is needed, but medical staff can more or less feel how loose it is and have a very good idea on what’s gone. That’s why you often hear ‘(team name) fear (player name) has a torn ACL’ it’s then confirmed after the scan.

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Re: 2019 Week 7

Postby Orenthal Shames » Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:36 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:05 pm D Williams with 6 carries for 2 yards and 2 catches for -1 yards. After last week with 2 touches for 9 points, this is killing his FPPT.
Dammit, you beat me to it.
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Re: 2019 Week 7

Postby Cameron Giles » Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:28 am

Chiefs have quietly fielded one of the worst run blocking offensive lines in the league this season. 30th in adjusted line yards before this game. Hard to bag on Williams for that.

They're obviously in trouble when Mahomes misses time. They're very reliant on the pass and that figures to drop. And with no run game, I'm not sure where the points come from. The defense showed up last night, but they'll have to show up more with him out.

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Re: 2019 Week 7

Postby Mephistopheles » Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:51 am

Orenthal Shames wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:12 pm Anyone have an updated FPPT for Damien Williams halfway through the fantasy season?

Hope you sold high.
There's still a cognitive dissonance out there about Damien.
Earlier this week I sent a very good offer to a rebuilding team as a part of which I took Damien off his hands.
He responded that Damien is still worth a high 1st round pick (which IMO he never was). Good luck with that I guess.
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Re: 2019 Week 7

Postby Prison_Mike » Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:55 am

My takeaways from last night:

- Sutton continues to look like the real deal
- Matt Moore needs a helmet that fits
- It looks like it'll be a rough few weeks (for fantasy) in KC without Mahomes
- Denver's backfield is one of the tougher RBBC's to predict on a weekly basis

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Re: 2019 Week 7

Postby Life of Pablo » Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:08 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:05 pm D Williams with 6 carries for 2 yards and 2 catches for -1 yards. After last week with 2 touches for 9 points, this is killing his FPPT.
:lol:
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Re: 2019 Week 7

Postby Life of Pablo » Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:15 am

Cameron Giles wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:28 am Chiefs have quietly fielded one of the worst run blocking offensive lines in the league this season. 30th in adjusted line yards before this game. Hard to bag on Williams for that.

They're obviously in trouble when Mahomes misses time. They're very reliant on the pass and that figures to drop. And with no run game, I'm not sure where the points come from. The defense showed up last night, but they'll have to show up more with him out.
I mean, McCoy had a much better statline than Williams, and on the few plays I did watch, he had some good-looking runs where I thought he ended up getting more than what was given to him. I didn't see the full game though.

As for the KC offense with Matt Moore. Idk, I think the run game is definitely a downgrade... the pass game too, but not as much. Unless the defense improves, they're going to need to keep up the scoring, and will likely find themselves trailing in games more often. Too many weapons and good offensive schemes to bust entirely. This might hurt them a little more on the deep ball, and on TDs in general obviously, but I could see the short and medium passes still working ok.
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Re: 2019 Week 7

Postby Life of Pablo » Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:21 am

alewilliam789 wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:34 pm Noah Fant looks like a straight bust. Guys dropped like 3 balls tonight whether it’s tallied in the stats or not. It’s great if you’re athletic, but if you are no good at catching the ball or blocking you’re no help to a team.
Not a good game for him at all. As an owner in a Yahoo league, I am relieved that Mahomes's injury + Flacco's play + the far-too-generous Yahoo blurb on Fant (below) will distract most of my league from the fact that he didn't look good.

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With Joe Flacco all the way off the rails, Fant never stood a chance. The first-round rookie now has just four grabs for 29 yards over his past three games. The "next step" probably won't exist for as long as Flacco is under center.
I'm certainly not trying to sell him right now, as I still believe in the talent and think he can clean up his game. But over the next couple weeks, if Drew Lock starts to get closer to health and Emmanuel Sanders gets traded, I might use that as a sell-high moment if Fant continues to look "meh".
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Re: 2019 Week 7

Postby TimeWillTell » Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:25 am

Life of Pablo wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:08 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:05 pm D Williams with 6 carries for 2 yards and 2 catches for -1 yards. After last week with 2 touches for 9 points, this is killing his FPPT.
:lol:
I wonder: if FDD hadn't been banned, would he admit his error regarding DWill or would he have a series of excuses and continue to irrationally scream about his elite skill set.
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Re: 2019 Week 7

Postby Patsfan86 » Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:42 am

TimeWillTell wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:25 am
Life of Pablo wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:08 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:05 pm D Williams with 6 carries for 2 yards and 2 catches for -1 yards. After last week with 2 touches for 9 points, this is killing his FPPT.
:lol:
I wonder: if FDD hadn't been banned, would he admit his error regarding DWill or would he have a series of excuses and continue to irrationally scream about his elite skill set.
I was thinking this too, I think he should be allowed back in just to see what he would do.

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Re: 2019 Week 7

Postby MEuRaH » Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:41 am

Cameron Giles wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:28 am Chiefs have quietly fielded one of the worst run blocking offensive lines in the league this season. 30th in adjusted line yards before this game. Hard to bag on Williams for that.

They're obviously in trouble when Mahomes misses time. They're very reliant on the pass and that figures to drop. And with no run game, I'm not sure where the points come from. The defense showed up last night, but they'll have to show up more with him out.
I usually agree with your opinions, but I gotta add something to your original point. McCoy has 5.4 YPC on 60 carries. Damien Williams has 1.7 YPC on 41 carries. They are running behind the same line.

You make a good point with Mahomes being out that the Chiefs might have to lean on the run a little bit more. I don't know if I'd trust him in my lineup though.
TimeWillTell wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:25 am
Life of Pablo wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:08 am
FantasyFreak wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 8:05 pm D Williams with 6 carries for 2 yards and 2 catches for -1 yards. After last week with 2 touches for 9 points, this is killing his FPPT.
:lol:
I wonder: if FDD hadn't been banned, would he admit his error regarding DWill or would he have a series of excuses and continue to irrationally scream about his elite skill set.
My guess is the latter. I think I made a pretty compelling argument that DWill is nothing more than an injury-proned career backup who made the most of his carries in junk time with the Chiefs, sans the first half of a Colts game. FDD went off, calling me a liar and making fun of my inability to correctly analyze RBs.

.... God I wish he was around right now. :P
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Re: 2019 Week 7

Postby Mike from Canada » Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:44 am

saw061600 wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:01 pm If extended injury...Mariota to KC?????
Also, hoping he's not seriously injured but just wondering what a team projected to finish near top does now.
What would Mariota do in KC? Sell insurance? Drive an Uber? Certainly not play QB for a professional football team.

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Re: 2019 Week 7

Postby Cameron Giles » Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:49 am

dlf_mikeh wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:41 am I usually agree with your opinions, but I gotta add something to your original point. McCoy has 5.4 YPC on 60 carries. Damien Williams has 1.7 YPC on 41 carries. They are running behind the same line.
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol/2019

This remains the best tool for assessing the run game, at least statistically.

Statistically, the only lines run blocking worse than KC are the Jets and Bengals. 25th in stuffed percentage as well.

McCoy's been able to pop some longer runs as he's a better early down back between the tackles, but they're not running the ball because the line is getting beat consistently. Even then, KC is 31st in second level yards. They've just been fortunate to get some large open field runs.

Otherwise, it's odd that a team who's 5-2, with a +7.5 point differential is 26th in rushing attempts with one of the most positive scripts in football. Williams hasn't played well, but it's largely because the line is not playing well. A big part of his success last year was the yards before contact. That's not there this season.

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Re: 2019 Week 7

Postby saw061600 » Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:37 am

perkinsrooster wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:44 am
saw061600 wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:01 pm If extended injury...Mariota to KC?????
Also, hoping he's not seriously injured but just wondering what a team projected to finish near top does now.
What would Mariota do in KC? Sell insurance? Drive an Uber? Certainly not play QB for a professional football team.
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Re: 2019 Week 7

Postby JJRules » Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:08 am

saw061600 wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:37 am
perkinsrooster wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:44 am
saw061600 wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:01 pm If extended injury...Mariota to KC?????
Also, hoping he's not seriously injured but just wondering what a team projected to finish near top does now.
What would Mariota do in KC? Sell insurance? Drive an Uber? Certainly not play QB for a professional football team.
You should see some of the other names floated on Twitter :crazy:
Are they bigger floaters than Mariota tho?
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