OBJ for K Allen/Engram/2020 1st

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OBJ for K Allen/Engram/2020 1st

Postby VinniVidiVici » Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:36 pm

Which side ya got?
#Back2Back Champs 2017/2018 | 10-team | .50 ppr |
Roster:
QB - C. Wentz, K Murray
RB - David Johnson, A Kamara, N Chubb, P Lindsey
WR - AJ Green, K Allen, A Thielen, D Adams, C Kupp
K - G Zuerlein
TE - Z Ertz, T Hockenson
DL- B Graham, C Dunlap, J Watt, F Cox
LB - L Vander Esch, T Watt, D Trevathan, E Kendricks, D Lee
DB - B Baker, K Byard, H Smith, D James, K Neal

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Re: OBJ for K Allen/Engram/2020 1st

Postby Slackalacker » Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:58 pm

Keenan side for me definitely.
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1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/1FLEX - 1.01/1.02/2.01/3/4/4/5
QB: Brady - Carr - Fitzpatrick
RB: Barkley - CMC - Mixon - Samuels - Ware - Bo - Ito - Guice(IR)
WR: Nuk - Adams - DJ - TY - Hollywood - Campbell - Pascal - JJAW - Miller - Hurd - Gage
TE: Engram - Akins - Josh Hill - Kaden Smith - Stern - Hock(IR)

4-9 - 9/10|DYNASTY TEAM 2 - 10 Team 1ppr |2019 Orphan
1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/2FLEX - 2 2020 1sts
QB: Wentz - Brees - Dalton
RB: Cook - Singletary - Duke - Hill - Ito - Riddick - Smallwood - Walton - Wilkins
WR/TE: JuJu - Hill - Samuels - MVS - Kirk - PWill - Enunwa - Lee - Trent Taylor - DT - Sharpe - P Cooper
TE: Olsen - Lacosse - Jonnu

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Re: OBJ for K Allen/Engram/2020 1st

Postby kmbryant09 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:11 pm

I own both Keenan and OBJ, and this is easily the Keenan side.

I love OBJ and won't be selling low on him, and I'd still give him up for Allen and EITHER a 2020 1st or Engram...
10-team/.5 PPR/5 Pts per Passing TD. Start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLEX (rb/wr/te)
QB: K. Murray, B. Mayfield, K. Cousins
RB: D Johnson, M. Mack, P. Lindsay, C. Edmonds, M. Walton, G. Bernard, D. Thompson, T. Pollard, M. Davis, R. Bonnafan
WR: O. Beckham Jr., K. Allen, C. Godwin, A. Robinson, C. Kirk, D. Johnson, A. Wilson, R. Higgins, D. Robinson
TE: E. Engram, D. Waller, I. Smith Jr.

2020 Picks: (2x) 1, (2x) 3, 4
2021 Picks: (2x) 1, 3, 4

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Re: OBJ for K Allen/Engram/2020 1st

Postby Jcedwards » Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:17 pm

I’d go with the Keenan side. Keenan isn’t far off from OBJ (better stats this year actually) and you’d be getting Engram and a 2020 1st.
12 team .5 PPR league. 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 FLEX, 1 D/ST, 1 K, 13 BN, 1 IR

QB- Mahomes / Winston
RB- Kamara / Barkley / Mixon / Aaron Jones / Bernard / Justice Hill / Chris Thompson / Boston Scott
WR- M Thomas / OBJ / Cooper / Lockett / Kirk / Fitzgerald
TE- Ertz / Goedert / Njoku
D/ST- Bears / Pats / Colts
K- Butker

IR- Herndon

Taxi- Minshew / Pollard / Sutton / Diontae Johnson / Boykin / Dawson Knox

Picks- 2020: 1st, 3rd, 3rd
2021: 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd

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Re: OBJ for K Allen/Engram/2020 1st

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:58 pm

Allen side very easily. Top tier wr, top tier TE and a 1st. Bye bye Beckham
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12 Team, PPR, 30 roster: 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 FLEX, 1 DST, 1 K
QB: Patrick Mahomes, Drew Brees, Josh Allen
RB: Alvin Kamara, Dalvin Cook, Nick Chubb, Leonard Fournette, Joe Mixon, Derrius Guice, Alexander Mattison, Ryquell Armstead, Rodney Anderson
WR: Kenny Golladay, Chris Godwin, Calvin Ridley, Courtland Sutton, Dede Westbrook, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk, Mike Williams, Josh Reynolds, Equanimeous St. Brown
TE: Mark Andrews, O.J. Howard, David Njoku, Greg Olsen, Ian Thomas

Picks: 2020: 4th, 5th 2021: 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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Re: OBJ for K Allen/Engram/2020 1st

Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:11 pm

Gator Sens wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:58 pm
Allen side very easily. Top tier wr, top tier TE and a 1st. Bye bye Beckham
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This is so not close.
TEAM A - 12 teams (2018 champ, 2017 R/U)
BREES, Jimmy G, Rivers, Haskins, Dalton, Keenum
COOK/JACOBS/GURLEY, Shady, Gio, Gallman, Ollison, D Washington, M Davis, Laird, Scarlett, Ware, Rodney A
NUK/HILL/EVANS/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Edelman, Alshon, Sammy, P Campbell, Wims, Dez, Hardy
KITTLE, Waller, Herndon, Sternberger, J Graham, Eifert
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league
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TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get slight bump in scoring (1st year league, tanking this year to build through 2020 draft)
DARNOLD, Carr, Rosen, Eli, Tyrod
SAQUON/MIXON, Hines, Gallman, L Miller, J Williams
NUK/EVANS/OBJ/K ALLEN/HOLLYWOOD, Coutee, Latimer
KITTLE/NJOKU, Ian Thomas, James O
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Danielle Hunter and then a bunch of stashes for IDP

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Re: OBJ for K Allen/Engram/2020 1st

Postby 95dent » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:36 pm

I’d seriously think about moving OBJ even without the pick involved.

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Re: OBJ for K Allen/Engram/2020 1st

Postby hoos89 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:40 pm

Did you receive this offer for Keenan+ or did you already accept and update your signature? It's just such a terrible offer.
95dent wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:36 pm
I’d seriously think about moving OBJ even without the pick involved.
I probably wouldn't even need to think about it. Allen + Engram for OBJ would be a pretty easy accept for me. This feels like peak OBJ value, and he's definitely not there right now.
Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
Wentz, Minshew, Bridgewater, Haskins
Jacobs, Michel, D. Harris, Richard, Gaskin
DJ Moore, Sutton, Kupp, Kirk, Deebo, Dorsett, J. Gordon, Lee, Lazard
OJ Howard, Hockenson, Herndon
IR(2): Love, McKinnon
Taxi(4): MVS
2020 Picks: 1.03, 1.05, 1.x, 1.x, 2.03, 2.x, 2.x, 3.05, 3.x, 4.03, 5.03

Team 3: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
Ryan, Bridgewater, Tannehill
Gurley, Barber, M. Brown, Miller, McKinnon, Ito, J. Jackson, R. Anderson, Richard, Edmunds
Thomas, Cooks, Watkins, Anderson, Beasley, Foster, Doctson, KeeSean, Lazard, Treadwell
Hooper, Herndon, Witten, Reed
2020 Picks: 1.01, 1.04, 1.06, 1.x, 1.x, 2.x, 2.x

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Re: OBJ for K Allen/Engram/2020 1st

Postby VinniVidiVici » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:10 am

I wanted the deal without the pick involved. OBJ owner wanted me to sweeten the deal. Was seeing if it was too much. So I came to ask here. Glad my thoughts are being echoed.
#Back2Back Champs 2017/2018 | 10-team | .50 ppr |
Roster:
QB - C. Wentz, K Murray
RB - David Johnson, A Kamara, N Chubb, P Lindsey
WR - AJ Green, K Allen, A Thielen, D Adams, C Kupp
K - G Zuerlein
TE - Z Ertz, T Hockenson
DL- B Graham, C Dunlap, J Watt, F Cox
LB - L Vander Esch, T Watt, D Trevathan, E Kendricks, D Lee
DB - B Baker, K Byard, H Smith, D James, K Neal

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Re: OBJ for K Allen/Engram/2020 1st

Postby Samhain34 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:14 am

People forget Allen is only 27. If I'm you I would keep KA and Engram for the future. It won't be long before your TE position reads Engram then Ertz.
The Max Fischer Players Orphan rebuild - year three (Superflex)
1-2 QB 1-6 RB 1-6 WR 1-6 TE PPR 12-team 24 on roster 2 IR spots.

QB: C. Wentz, M. Ryan, B. Mayfield, N. Foles
RB: M. Gordon, T. Cohen, M. Walton, P. Barber, D. Thompson, I. Smith
WR: M. Thomas, K. Allen, C. Sutton, D. Slayton, A. Isabella, D. Westbrook, David Moore, A. Wilson, Auden Tate, J, Kumerow, G. Jennings
TE: N Fant, H. Henry, T. Higbee
IR: Preston Williams, C. Coleman
No Kicker or DEF
Picks
2020: 1,2
2021: 1,2,3

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Re: OBJ for K Allen/Engram/2020 1st

Postby Goddard » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:15 am

Keenan

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Re: OBJ for K Allen/Engram/2020 1st

Postby hoos89 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:21 am

VinniVidiVici wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:10 am
I wanted the deal without the pick involved. OBJ owner wanted me to sweeten the deal. Was seeing if it was too much. So I came to ask here. Glad my thoughts are being echoed.
I would not want the deal without the pick. That's a terrible value.
Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
Wentz, Minshew, Bridgewater, Haskins
Jacobs, Michel, D. Harris, Richard, Gaskin
DJ Moore, Sutton, Kupp, Kirk, Deebo, Dorsett, J. Gordon, Lee, Lazard
OJ Howard, Hockenson, Herndon
IR(2): Love, McKinnon
Taxi(4): MVS
2020 Picks: 1.03, 1.05, 1.x, 1.x, 2.03, 2.x, 2.x, 3.05, 3.x, 4.03, 5.03

Team 3: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
Ryan, Bridgewater, Tannehill
Gurley, Barber, M. Brown, Miller, McKinnon, Ito, J. Jackson, R. Anderson, Richard, Edmunds
Thomas, Cooks, Watkins, Anderson, Beasley, Foster, Doctson, KeeSean, Lazard, Treadwell
Hooper, Herndon, Witten, Reed
2020 Picks: 1.01, 1.04, 1.06, 1.x, 1.x, 2.x, 2.x

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