Cooper Kupp - Value Up?

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Re: Cooper Kupp is a WR1

Postby hoos89 » Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:22 pm

I think Kupp's ceiling is actually higher than Cooks'. Cooks hasn't put up 33+ points since he left the Saints (and has only cracked 30 once, week 4 of 2017). Cooks has the bigger track record so he's probably a bit safer.

I've always been a big proponent of Cooks, but I think I'm ready to move Kupp in front of Cooks.
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Re: Cooper Kupp is a WR1

Postby Jigga94 » Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:53 pm

hoos89 wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:22 pm I've always been a big proponent of Cooks, but I think I'm ready to move Kupp in front of Cooks.
Me too. Always been a Cooks supporter... I think I'd trade him for Kupp right now

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Re: Cooper Kupp is a WR1

Postby Krypto_King » Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:22 pm

that trade in OP looks so ridiculous right now. AJG for Kupp, Ridley, Golladay. *hat tip*

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Re: Cooper Kupp is a WR1

Postby Krypto_King » Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:28 pm

ckrumm24 wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:44 pm The bigger version of Wes Welker. 100/1200/6-8 for the next 4-5 years... Book it. I have to believe this because I just overpaid for him.
double those TD numbers. red zone monster

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Re: Cooper Kupp is a WR1

Postby pvillebiker » Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:44 pm

Krypto_King wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:28 pm
ckrumm24 wrote: Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:44 pm The bigger version of Wes Welker. 100/1200/6-8 for the next 4-5 years... Book it. I have to believe this because I just overpaid for him.
double those TD numbers. red zone monster
^this - was going to say the same thing. Heck he could have the upper end of that by mid-season at current rate.

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Re: Cooper Kupp is a WR1

Postby Phaded » Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:53 pm

Goff is dependent on him, so as long as Goff is the guy - Kupp will be pretty valuable.

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Re: Cooper Kupp is a WR1

Postby Johnny B. Goode » Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:38 pm

ckrumm24 wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:32 am
Johnny B. Goode wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:32 am
ckrumm24 wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:20 am 2020 1st (won’t be high), 2020 3rd, 2021 1st

That's not an over pay IMO. I wouldnt trade him for a mid to late 2020 1st and 2021 1st (the 2020 3rd is meaningless in a trade like this).

I am thrilled I got this guy in the offseason for what ended up being Royce Freeman, Peyton Barber, and Robby Anderson.

Traded down from 1.3 to 1.6 and Ebron. Ebron and Barber for Royce, then Anderson and Royce for Kupp.
I guess you’re right. It’s not an overpay for those of us who are ahead of the curve 😉. I’m satisfied, but for instance, the DLF trade analyzer says a random 2020 1st is equal to Kupp. I know others feel similar. I wanted to trade for him earlier but I just didn’t have any depth to give up and I’m sticky with my draft picks. You got a steal though. Well done.
I dont pay for the service but the calculator still.works for me. I have to think it's an outdated copy...
If that says Kupp is worth a 2020 1st that's bonkers. way to go to grab him.


On a side note- I love his picture on Player Profiler

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Re: Cooper Kupp is a WR1

Postby ArrylT » Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:04 am

Some good discussion about Cooper Kupp in the Week V discussion thread - make sure to check it out. :)
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Re: Cooper Kupp is a WR1

Postby DinoDynasty » Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:28 am

Krypto_King wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:22 pm that trade in OP looks so ridiculous right now. AJG for Kupp, Ridley, Golladay. *hat tip*
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Re: Cooper Kupp is a WR1

Postby ArrylT » Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:34 am

DinoDynasty wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:28 am
Krypto_King wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:22 pm that trade in OP looks so ridiculous right now. AJG for Kupp, Ridley, Golladay. *hat tip*
:wave:
Its a very good reminder that even a years difference can change the perception around a trade. A year ago those 3 players were all "what if" or "on their way" but had not yet arrived. Luckily all 3 of them have arrived (although Ridleys sophomore year has been sluggish).
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Re: Cooper Kupp is a WR1

Postby jetsfan5757 » Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:07 pm

He's a 1 in my book.
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QB (1): Herbert, Lawrence, Darnold
RB (3): N. Chubb, D. Henry, J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, Pollard, Singletary, L. Murray
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, B. Aiyuk, J. Smith-Schuster, R Bateman, E. Moore
TE (2): I. Smith Jr, H. Henry, Schultz, Tremble

K (1): M. Crosby

DB (1): J. Adams
LB (1): F. Warner
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Re: Cooper Kupp is a WR1

Postby remedy29 » Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:11 pm

When does this discussion turn to Kupp being THE #1 fantasy WR?

He has the targets, high enough skill and top offense. He is not the most talented WR in the game, but in fantasy PPR he is the most valuable.

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Re: Cooper Kupp is a WR1

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:47 pm

remedy29 wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:11 pm When does this discussion turn to Kupp being THE #1 fantasy WR?

He has the targets, high enough skill and top offense. He is not the most talented WR in the game, but in fantasy PPR he is the most valuable.
I don't think it does. Ever. Situations can change rapidly, and that is why talents that are more immune to that change will be regarded higher.
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Re: Cooper Kupp is a WR1

Postby bjd5211 » Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:08 pm

remedy29 wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:11 pm When does this discussion turn to Kupp being THE #1 fantasy WR?
Never.

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Re: Cooper Kupp is a WR1

Postby jetsfan5757 » Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:20 pm

remedy29 wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:11 pm When does this discussion turn to Kupp being THE #1 fantasy WR?

He has the targets, high enough skill and top offense. He is not the most talented WR in the game, but in fantasy PPR he is the most valuable.
:surprised: :shock:

Wow... I'm not there yet.

Nuk and Thomas way ahead for me. Likely OBJ still. Adams too.

After that, certainly debatable but I'd probably still have others in front of him...
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QB (1): Herbert, Lawrence, Darnold
RB (3): N. Chubb, D. Henry, J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, Pollard, Singletary, L. Murray
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, B. Aiyuk, J. Smith-Schuster, R Bateman, E. Moore
TE (2): I. Smith Jr, H. Henry, Schultz, Tremble

K (1): M. Crosby

DB (1): J. Adams
LB (1): F. Warner
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