MT for Deebo, Kirk, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and 2020 3rd

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MT for Deebo, Kirk, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and 2020 3rd

Postby UsualSuspects » Sat Sep 28, 2019 7:53 pm

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Offer has been made by me.
Too little in return for MT?
Too much in return for MT?
1st round pick estimated 3-8
12 Team PPR - '16 7th '17 1st '18 3rd ‘19 3rd ‘20 5th ‘21 3rd ‘22 7th ‘23 1st
Start- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 1K, 1D- PPR- All TD’s are 6 pts.
Qb- Hurts, Purdy, Browning
RB- Gibbs, Javontae Williams, Ford, Gainwell, McLaughlin, Mason, E Mitchell
WR- Jaylen Waddle, Aiyuk, Addison, Rice, Downs, Pickens, Marquise Brown, Davis, MT, Chark, Mingo, C Samuel, Douglas, Austin III, Danny Gray
TE- LaPorta, Friermuth, Okonkwo
K- Aubrey, Buttker
2024 picks 2.03, 3.03, 5, 5, 5, 5
2025 picks 2, 3, 4, 5
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Team 2-
12 Team Superflex PPR - '24 took over via 3 team dispersal
Start- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 Superflex, 1Flex, PPR- passing TD’s 4 pts
Qb- Tua, Stafford, Geno Smith
RB- McCaffrey, Mostert, Kamara, Brian Robinson, Warren, McLaughlin, Charbonnett, Roschon, Rodriguez
WR- Tyreek, DHop, DaVante Adams, Godwin, Downs, Gabe Davis, Mike Williams, Chark, Mooney, Osborn
TE- Kittle, Kelce, Freiermuth
2024 picks 2.11, 3.01, 4.03
2025 picks 2,2,3,3,3,3,4,4
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Re: MT for Deebo, Kirk, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and 2020 3rd

Postby RB6 » Sat Sep 28, 2019 7:57 pm

Not enough.
.5PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
LJax, Burrow, Carr, Huntley, Heinicke, Cunningham
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, Kirk, Wiliams, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Hodgins, Hutchinson
CMC, Barkley, Mostert, Ford, Moss, Dobbins, Dillon, Kelley, Tucker
Andrews, Higbee

PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
Mahomes, Purdy, Dalton, Henicke, Trask, Zappe
Henry, Pacheco, Robinson, Wilson, Ford, Chandler, Deuce
Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
Pitts, Waller, Washington

PPR Best Ball Dynasty SF .5TEP
Stroud, Cousins, Willis, Mariota, Cunningham
Walker, J Cook, Miller, Zamir, Rodriguez, Carter, Penny
St. Brown, Aiyuk, DJ Moore, London, Doubs, Metchie, Scott, Claypool
Kincaid, Dulcich, Fant, Turner, Hurst

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Re: MT for Deebo, Kirk, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and 2020 3rd

Postby M-Dub » Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:50 pm

I think it’s a fair return for Thomas, especially if the pick is closer to 1.03 than 1.08. I think it gives you better depth but makes your starting lineup worse. Godwin is pretty much a plug & play at this point, but good luck deciding which two to start out of Kirk, MVS, Samuel and Samuel. Seems like it could just lead to frustration. If I were you I’d be looking to move Ertz for an upgrade at RB.
Both are 12-team 1QB PPR dynasties

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QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer

Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years

QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0

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Re: MT for Deebo, Kirk, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and 2020 3rd

Postby Samhain34 » Sun Sep 29, 2019 1:15 am

You need a running back; I'd be looking to dump draft picks/Brady/Ertz for a true RB1. The haul isn't bad, but you're already deep enough, which makes that first pick do or die.

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Re: MT for Deebo, Kirk, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and 2020 3rd

Postby Gator Sens » Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:12 am

Solid return but I don't think this makes your team better or helps you overall. I would hold Thomas here unless you get more coming back.

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Re: MT for Deebo, Kirk, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and 2020 3rd

Postby Goddard » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:32 am

Not close for MT.

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Re: MT for Deebo, Kirk, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and 2020 3rd

Postby Slackalacker » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:36 am

That wouldn’t be enough for me to get MT
TEAM 1 - 10 team SF 1PPR | 2017 & 2019 League Champ
1QB/1SF/2RB/2WR/1TE/2FLEX
QB: Dak - Hurts - DangeRuss - Tua - Z Wilson - Mills
RB: Barkley - Zeke - Sanders - Pollard - Patterson - D’Ernest - Jermar - Evans - Jones
WR: Hill - JJeff - Higgins - Hollywood - MThom(IR) - Godwin(IR) - E Moore - Marshall Jr - Calloway - Palmer - D Brown
TE: Hock - Moreau

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Re: MT for Deebo, Kirk, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and 2020 3rd

Postby hoos89 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:59 am

Not enough. I'd want more confidence that the 2020 1st is closer to 3 than 8 and/or the 2020 2nd to be a 2020 1st before I considered.
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1

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Re: MT for Deebo, Kirk, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and 2020 3rd

Postby FantasyFoosball » Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:05 am

I wouldn't move MT for that.
Team One:
10 Team Salary Cap League w/ IDP - Est. 2018
2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 2nd Place
2021: Loss in Semis
2022: Champions!!!
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes
RB - CMC, White, Sanders, Herbert, Foreman, McKinnon
WR - Diggs, Ridley, Godwin, KJ Osborn, Woods, Claypool, Campbell
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki
K - Bass
DL - Reddick, Jones, M. Sweat
LB - R. Smith, Wagner, Leonard, White, Perryman, Cashman
DB - Byard, Bell, Hobbs, Jenkins

2024: 3rd

Team Two:
DLF Advice Forum League
14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 4th Place
2021: 2nd Place
1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Carr, Mayfield, Trask, Zappe
RB - Harris, Gibson, Herbert, K. Miller, C. Brown
WR - MT, G. Davis, Bourne, Skyy Moore, Reynolds, Shakir, A.T. Perry, C. Moore, Hinton
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Woods

2024: 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: MT for Deebo, Kirk, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and 2020 3rd

Postby UsualSuspects » Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:28 am

Was declined with no counter.
Pretty sure the other owner thought it was an insulting offer.
Tried to see if he was previously interested in Ertz for Kirk and a second and he said that Kirk was worth more than Ertz straight up.
12 Team PPR - '16 7th '17 1st '18 3rd ‘19 3rd ‘20 5th ‘21 3rd ‘22 7th ‘23 1st
Start- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 1K, 1D- PPR- All TD’s are 6 pts.
Qb- Hurts, Purdy, Browning
RB- Gibbs, Javontae Williams, Ford, Gainwell, McLaughlin, Mason, E Mitchell
WR- Jaylen Waddle, Aiyuk, Addison, Rice, Downs, Pickens, Marquise Brown, Davis, MT, Chark, Mingo, C Samuel, Douglas, Austin III, Danny Gray
TE- LaPorta, Friermuth, Okonkwo
K- Aubrey, Buttker
2024 picks 2.03, 3.03, 5, 5, 5, 5
2025 picks 2, 3, 4, 5
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Team 2-
12 Team Superflex PPR - '24 took over via 3 team dispersal
Start- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 Superflex, 1Flex, PPR- passing TD’s 4 pts
Qb- Tua, Stafford, Geno Smith
RB- McCaffrey, Mostert, Kamara, Brian Robinson, Warren, McLaughlin, Charbonnett, Roschon, Rodriguez
WR- Tyreek, DHop, DaVante Adams, Godwin, Downs, Gabe Davis, Mike Williams, Chark, Mooney, Osborn
TE- Kittle, Kelce, Freiermuth
2024 picks 2.11, 3.01, 4.03
2025 picks 2,2,3,3,3,3,4,4
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Re: MT for Deebo, Kirk, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and 2020 3rd

Postby hoos89 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:39 am

UsualSuspects wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:28 am Was declined with no counter.
Pretty sure the other owner thought it was an insulting offer.
Tried to see if he was previously interested in Ertz for Kirk and a second and he said that Kirk was worth more than Ertz straight up.
Thought it was insulting you asked that much for MT? Weird...I wouldn't call it an auto accept, but as someone who has MT in one league and all of the pieces in the package you asked for in another league, I would easily prefer MT.
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1

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Re: MT for Deebo, Kirk, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and 2020 3rd

Postby badbuddah » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:49 pm

Goddard wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:32 am Not close for MT.
I know MT is a stud, but that is a lot of promising talent and draft capital. Not sure I'd say not close. I'd think long and hard about it depending on my personal situation. Like everyone has said, he does need a RB, however.
12 Team UNLIMITED Keeper / 23 Roster 1.0-PPR: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/RB/TE, 1 K, 1 DEF 2 IR - 11th Year

QB: L. Jackson, J. Browning
RB: Aaron Jones, D'Ernest Johnson, E. Mitchell, Dalvin Cook, Jamaal Williams, Alexander Mattison, K. Miller, P. Taylor
WR: R. Doubs, G. Pickens, Christian Kirk, Juju, D. Hopkins, D. Wicks, K. Boutte
TE: Z. Ertz, C. Okonkwo, Trey McBride, Tucker Kraft
K: T. Bass, J. Moody
DEF: San Francisco

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Re: MT for Deebo, Kirk, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and 2020 3rd

Postby badbuddah » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:50 pm

UsualSuspects wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:28 am Was declined with no counter.
Pretty sure the other owner thought it was an insulting offer.
Tried to see if he was previously interested in Ertz for Kirk and a second and he said that Kirk was worth more than Ertz straight up.
Sounds like he is a bleep moron. Par for the course in fantasy in my experiences. All the advice and research I do and yet I find it doesn't matter when 90% of people are idiotic.
12 Team UNLIMITED Keeper / 23 Roster 1.0-PPR: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/RB/TE, 1 K, 1 DEF 2 IR - 11th Year

QB: L. Jackson, J. Browning
RB: Aaron Jones, D'Ernest Johnson, E. Mitchell, Dalvin Cook, Jamaal Williams, Alexander Mattison, K. Miller, P. Taylor
WR: R. Doubs, G. Pickens, Christian Kirk, Juju, D. Hopkins, D. Wicks, K. Boutte
TE: Z. Ertz, C. Okonkwo, Trey McBride, Tucker Kraft
K: T. Bass, J. Moody
DEF: San Francisco

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Re: MT for Deebo, Kirk, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and 2020 3rd

Postby UsualSuspects » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:55 pm

hoos89 wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:39 am
UsualSuspects wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:28 am Was declined with no counter.
Pretty sure the other owner thought it was an insulting offer.
Tried to see if he was previously interested in Ertz for Kirk and a second and he said that Kirk was worth more than Ertz straight up.
Thought it was insulting you asked that much for MT? Weird...I wouldn't call it an auto accept, but as someone who has MT in one league and all of the pieces in the package you asked for in another league, I would easily prefer MT.
Yeah, he is crazy rookie oriented but I thought that MT would be too much for him to pass up on.
I was wrong 🙂
After his no counter decline I wanted to make sure my valuations weren't way off.
12 Team PPR - '16 7th '17 1st '18 3rd ‘19 3rd ‘20 5th ‘21 3rd ‘22 7th ‘23 1st
Start- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 1K, 1D- PPR- All TD’s are 6 pts.
Qb- Hurts, Purdy, Browning
RB- Gibbs, Javontae Williams, Ford, Gainwell, McLaughlin, Mason, E Mitchell
WR- Jaylen Waddle, Aiyuk, Addison, Rice, Downs, Pickens, Marquise Brown, Davis, MT, Chark, Mingo, C Samuel, Douglas, Austin III, Danny Gray
TE- LaPorta, Friermuth, Okonkwo
K- Aubrey, Buttker
2024 picks 2.03, 3.03, 5, 5, 5, 5
2025 picks 2, 3, 4, 5
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Team 2-
12 Team Superflex PPR - '24 took over via 3 team dispersal
Start- 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1 Superflex, 1Flex, PPR- passing TD’s 4 pts
Qb- Tua, Stafford, Geno Smith
RB- McCaffrey, Mostert, Kamara, Brian Robinson, Warren, McLaughlin, Charbonnett, Roschon, Rodriguez
WR- Tyreek, DHop, DaVante Adams, Godwin, Downs, Gabe Davis, Mike Williams, Chark, Mooney, Osborn
TE- Kittle, Kelce, Freiermuth
2024 picks 2.11, 3.01, 4.03
2025 picks 2,2,3,3,3,3,4,4
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Re: MT for Deebo, Kirk, 2020 1st, 2020 2nd, and 2020 3rd

Postby Goddard » Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:15 pm

badbuddah wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:49 pm
Goddard wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:32 am Not close for MT.
I know MT is a stud, but that is a lot of promising talent and draft capital. Not sure I'd say not close. I'd think long and hard about it depending on my personal situation. Like everyone has said, he does need a RB, however.
I don't know...Deebo and Kirk are nice, but nothing special nor anywhere near MT's value. Adding a mid-ish 1st doesn't close that gap for me. The 2nd and 3rd and worthless to me in trades like this.


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