I’m a contender and with the Pats insanely easy remaining schedule I’m interested in getting their defense from a team that’s bottom to middle of the league.
What would you offer? I’ve never even considered trading for a defense In dynasty before so it’s new territory.
Trading for the Pats D?
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Trading for the Pats D?
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QB: Jared Goff Carson Wentz
RB: Saquon Barkley, Dalvin Cook, JK Dobbins, Jaylen Samuels,
WR: OBJ, Mike Evans, Tyler Lockett, Justin Jefferson, Michael Pittman, Tee Higgins, Bryan Edwards, DJ Chark, Chris Godwin, Tre’Quan Smith, KeeSean Johnson, Josh Reynolds, Keke Coutee, K. Harmon
TE: George Kittle, Jonnu Smith, G. Everett, Ian Thomas
K: Justin Tucker
D/ST: Bears, Browns, Chiefs
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QB: Carson Wentz, Kirk Cousins
RB: Miles Sanders, Cam Akers, Jonathan Taylor, JK Dobbins, RoJo
WR: Amari Cooper, CeeDee Lamb, Jerry Jeudy, Corey Davis, JJAW, Andy Isabella, Justin Jefferson, Bryan Edwards, Denzel Mims
TE: Jonnu Smiith
DT: Fletcher Cox, Damon Harrison, Ed Oliver
DE: Jerry Hughes
LB: Montez Sweat, Isaiah Simmons, Patrick Queen, Todd Davis, Anthony Barr
DB: Stephon Gilmore, Shawn Williams, Reshad Jones, Jonathan Abram
QB: Jared Goff Carson Wentz
RB: Saquon Barkley, Dalvin Cook, JK Dobbins, Jaylen Samuels,
WR: OBJ, Mike Evans, Tyler Lockett, Justin Jefferson, Michael Pittman, Tee Higgins, Bryan Edwards, DJ Chark, Chris Godwin, Tre’Quan Smith, KeeSean Johnson, Josh Reynolds, Keke Coutee, K. Harmon
TE: George Kittle, Jonnu Smith, G. Everett, Ian Thomas
K: Justin Tucker
D/ST: Bears, Browns, Chiefs
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RB: Miles Sanders, Cam Akers, Jonathan Taylor, JK Dobbins, RoJo
WR: Amari Cooper, CeeDee Lamb, Jerry Jeudy, Corey Davis, JJAW, Andy Isabella, Justin Jefferson, Bryan Edwards, Denzel Mims
TE: Jonnu Smiith
DT: Fletcher Cox, Damon Harrison, Ed Oliver
DE: Jerry Hughes
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Re: Trading for the Pats D?
T. Smith and the Browns maybe?? Tough to value DEF's league to league. Smith gives the owner a younger piece for the future and he can plug in the Browns.
Re: Trading for the Pats D?
You don't have a 3rd so maybe your 4th?
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Re: Trading for the Pats D?
I traded for the Pats defense in 2 leagues, and am very happy with my decision as I am contending in both.
One was for my 2020 2nd (should be very late)
One was for a rebuilding teams 2020 3rd (should be 3.1...3.2)
Pats defense is the 10th and 13th overall scorer in my leagues, and that should continue through their bye. People like to talk about positional advantage at TE, the Pats defense is currently the single largest positional advantage in FF.
22.5 PPG vs 2nd best SF @ 14.5 PPG
By comparison, Kupp is scoring 22.5PPG and is the WR2.
One was for my 2020 2nd (should be very late)
One was for a rebuilding teams 2020 3rd (should be 3.1...3.2)
Pats defense is the 10th and 13th overall scorer in my leagues, and that should continue through their bye. People like to talk about positional advantage at TE, the Pats defense is currently the single largest positional advantage in FF.
22.5 PPG vs 2nd best SF @ 14.5 PPG
By comparison, Kupp is scoring 22.5PPG and is the WR2.
2017 Champ, 2018 Runner-up, 2019 Champ, 2020 Champ, 2021 Runner-up
12 Team PPR
Stairway to Evans
QB: Hurts, Kirk, Bridgewater, Jimmy G
RB: CMC, Pollard, Foreman,
Sanders, Hill
WR: Kupp, Evans, Ridley, Dell, Josh Palmer, Hodgins, Osborn, Parker, MVS
TE: Kelce, Musgrave, Otton, Gray, Woods
DEF: Chicago Ravens
2024 2nd, 3rd, 4th
12 Team .5 PPR
Fields of Dreams
QB - Fields, Cousins, Wilson
RB - Taylor, Swift, Mixon, Pollard, Singelary, McLaughlin
WR - Olave, Tyreek, Tank Dell, Higgins, Gabriel Davis, E Moore, Mingo, Douglas
TE - Ferguson, Gray, Otton
DEF - 49ers, Pats
Picks 2024 2x1st, 3, 4
12 Team PPR
Stairway to Evans
QB: Hurts, Kirk, Bridgewater, Jimmy G
RB: CMC, Pollard, Foreman,
Sanders, Hill
WR: Kupp, Evans, Ridley, Dell, Josh Palmer, Hodgins, Osborn, Parker, MVS
TE: Kelce, Musgrave, Otton, Gray, Woods
DEF: Chicago Ravens
2024 2nd, 3rd, 4th
12 Team .5 PPR
Fields of Dreams
QB - Fields, Cousins, Wilson
RB - Taylor, Swift, Mixon, Pollard, Singelary, McLaughlin
WR - Olave, Tyreek, Tank Dell, Higgins, Gabriel Davis, E Moore, Mingo, Douglas
TE - Ferguson, Gray, Otton
DEF - 49ers, Pats
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Re: Trading for the Pats D?
Starting around Week 8, they start to play some real teams. I agree they've been great thus far but I wouldn't overpay trying to chase these points. The next time they play Miami is week 17. If your Super Bowl happens to be Week 17, then that would be very exciting. However if your playoffs end in Week 16, less so.
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QB: Jordan Love, Deshaun Watson
RB: Travis Etienne, Aaron Jones, Jamaal Williams, Kendre Miller, Jaleel McLaughlin, Sean Tucker, Deuce Vaughn
WR: A.J. Brown, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, Calvin Ridley, Michael Wilson, Kendrick Bourne, Tutu Atwell, Allen Lazard, Isaiah Hodgins, Justin Shorter
TE: T.J. Hockenson, Cole Kmet, Kylen Granson
K: Didn't make the playoffs in 2023 , and don't usually hold one in the offseason
Team DST: Cowboys, Lions
Picks:
2024: All my picks except 3rd rounder
Disclaimer: My one and only Championship in this league was way back in 2011. Therefore, take my replies with the appropriate grain of salt.
QB: Jordan Love, Deshaun Watson
RB: Travis Etienne, Aaron Jones, Jamaal Williams, Kendre Miller, Jaleel McLaughlin, Sean Tucker, Deuce Vaughn
WR: A.J. Brown, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, Calvin Ridley, Michael Wilson, Kendrick Bourne, Tutu Atwell, Allen Lazard, Isaiah Hodgins, Justin Shorter
TE: T.J. Hockenson, Cole Kmet, Kylen Granson
K: Didn't make the playoffs in 2023 , and don't usually hold one in the offseason
Team DST: Cowboys, Lions
Picks:
2024: All my picks except 3rd rounder
Disclaimer: My one and only Championship in this league was way back in 2011. Therefore, take my replies with the appropriate grain of salt.
Re: Trading for the Pats D?
Well looking at the schedule, week 14 or week one of the playoffs for many, they play the Chiefs, so that is borderline unstartable. Week 15 though they play the Bungles, and Week 16 the Bills. If you have a stopgap defense for the first round, and can survive, you could have two mammoth weeks from them so I wouldn't say "less so" for week 16 at all. They just held Buffalo to 10.Paul717 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:51 am Starting around Week 8, they start to play some real teams. I agree they've been great thus far but I wouldn't overpay trying to chase these points. The next time they play Miami is week 17. If your Super Bowl happens to be Week 17, then that would be very exciting. However if your playoffs end in Week 16, less so.
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QB: L. Jackson, J. Browning
RB: Aaron Jones, D'Ernest Johnson, E. Mitchell, Dalvin Cook, Jamaal Williams, Alexander Mattison, K. Miller, P. Taylor
WR: R. Doubs, G. Pickens, Christian Kirk, Juju, D. Hopkins, D. Wicks, K. Boutte
TE: Z. Ertz, C. Okonkwo, Trey McBride, Tucker Kraft
K: T. Bass, J. Moody
DEF: San Francisco
QB: L. Jackson, J. Browning
RB: Aaron Jones, D'Ernest Johnson, E. Mitchell, Dalvin Cook, Jamaal Williams, Alexander Mattison, K. Miller, P. Taylor
WR: R. Doubs, G. Pickens, Christian Kirk, Juju, D. Hopkins, D. Wicks, K. Boutte
TE: Z. Ertz, C. Okonkwo, Trey McBride, Tucker Kraft
K: T. Bass, J. Moody
DEF: San Francisco
Re: Trading for the Pats D?
You already own the Bears, I’d rather hold on to other assets unless you get them very cheap.
2015, 2017, 2022 Champ.
10 team, 6 pt all td, ppr, 1.5 te ppr. 30 man roster QB, SF, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, Flex (r/w/t), K, 3 IDP
Qb- Mahomes, Prudy, Baker
RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean (i.r.)
K- E McPherson, Butker
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2024- 2, 4, 5
2025- 3, 3, 4, 5
10 team, 6 pt all td, ppr, 1.5 te ppr. 30 man roster QB, SF, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, Flex (r/w/t), K, 3 IDP
Qb- Mahomes, Prudy, Baker
RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean (i.r.)
K- E McPherson, Butker
draft picks
2024- 2, 4, 5
2025- 3, 3, 4, 5
Re: Trading for the Pats D?
They are going to continue to be one of the biggest advantages in fantasy? Good luck counting on defensive touchdowns every week... A 2nd is far too much to give up for a defense in my opinion.DinoDynasty wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:49 am I traded for the Pats defense in 2 leagues, and am very happy with my decision as I am contending in both.
One was for my 2020 2nd (should be very late)
One was for a rebuilding teams 2020 3rd (should be 3.1...3.2)
Pats defense is the 10th and 13th overall scorer in my leagues, and that should continue through their bye. People like to talk about positional advantage at TE, the Pats defense is currently the single largest positional advantage in FF.
22.5 PPG vs 2nd best SF @ 14.5 PPG
By comparison, Kupp is scoring 22.5PPG and is the WR2.
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Re: Trading for the Pats D?
I'm expecting the 2nd to be close to 2.12... if it can win me a championship I'd rather pay that up. People pay more than a 2nd for a rental with less of an advantage.
2017 Champ, 2018 Runner-up, 2019 Champ, 2020 Champ, 2021 Runner-up
12 Team PPR
Stairway to Evans
QB: Hurts, Kirk, Bridgewater, Jimmy G
RB: CMC, Pollard, Foreman,
Sanders, Hill
WR: Kupp, Evans, Ridley, Dell, Josh Palmer, Hodgins, Osborn, Parker, MVS
TE: Kelce, Musgrave, Otton, Gray, Woods
DEF: Chicago Ravens
2024 2nd, 3rd, 4th
12 Team .5 PPR
Fields of Dreams
QB - Fields, Cousins, Wilson
RB - Taylor, Swift, Mixon, Pollard, Singelary, McLaughlin
WR - Olave, Tyreek, Tank Dell, Higgins, Gabriel Davis, E Moore, Mingo, Douglas
TE - Ferguson, Gray, Otton
DEF - 49ers, Pats
Picks 2024 2x1st, 3, 4
12 Team PPR
Stairway to Evans
QB: Hurts, Kirk, Bridgewater, Jimmy G
RB: CMC, Pollard, Foreman,
Sanders, Hill
WR: Kupp, Evans, Ridley, Dell, Josh Palmer, Hodgins, Osborn, Parker, MVS
TE: Kelce, Musgrave, Otton, Gray, Woods
DEF: Chicago Ravens
2024 2nd, 3rd, 4th
12 Team .5 PPR
Fields of Dreams
QB - Fields, Cousins, Wilson
RB - Taylor, Swift, Mixon, Pollard, Singelary, McLaughlin
WR - Olave, Tyreek, Tank Dell, Higgins, Gabriel Davis, E Moore, Mingo, Douglas
TE - Ferguson, Gray, Otton
DEF - 49ers, Pats
Picks 2024 2x1st, 3, 4
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