5th Year of Dynasty and I am in a new position - Total Rebuild. Do i hold on to 28 year old Ertz or let him go?
I feel like I could be competitive again in a year or 2, i have draft capital and young potential at RBs. Should I trade Ertz (i am getting some good offers) or keep him around. Having a top tier TE is so convenient that i hate the idea of dealing him, but with his target share expectations over the next few weeks, i have a feeling this will be his peak value.
Would love any thoughts on Ertz (get draft picks? swap for a younger TE and a pick?), or other suggestions on my defeated roster below (I plan on shipping off AJG and Tate sometime this season):
Rebuild - Trade Ertz?
Rebuild - Trade Ertz?
14 Team, 1/2 ppr: Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 2 Flex
QB: Hurts, Tua, Minshew
RB: Ekeler, Henry, Swift, Mattison, Gus, Gainwell, D. Harris, Carter, Strong
WR: Jefferson, CD, Waddle, Evans, Adams, Hopkins, JuJu, C. Moore, Pierce, Goodwin
TE: Ferguson, Schultz, Knox, Tonyan, Jonnu
'25 Picks: 1, 1, 2, 3
QB: Hurts, Tua, Minshew
RB: Ekeler, Henry, Swift, Mattison, Gus, Gainwell, D. Harris, Carter, Strong
WR: Jefferson, CD, Waddle, Evans, Adams, Hopkins, JuJu, C. Moore, Pierce, Goodwin
TE: Ferguson, Schultz, Knox, Tonyan, Jonnu
'25 Picks: 1, 1, 2, 3
Re: Rebuild - Trade Ertz?
What are the offers you've gotten? If they're as good as you say, I'd sell and speed up the rebuilding process.
Re: Rebuild - Trade Ertz?
3 so far (might be able to counter better):
Mike Williams, Vance and a Late First
Sutton, Mark Andrews and a likely mid 2021 1st ... for Ertz and AJG
An early 2020 1st
14 Team, 1/2 ppr: Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 2 Flex
QB: Hurts, Tua, Minshew
RB: Ekeler, Henry, Swift, Mattison, Gus, Gainwell, D. Harris, Carter, Strong
WR: Jefferson, CD, Waddle, Evans, Adams, Hopkins, JuJu, C. Moore, Pierce, Goodwin
TE: Ferguson, Schultz, Knox, Tonyan, Jonnu
'25 Picks: 1, 1, 2, 3
QB: Hurts, Tua, Minshew
RB: Ekeler, Henry, Swift, Mattison, Gus, Gainwell, D. Harris, Carter, Strong
WR: Jefferson, CD, Waddle, Evans, Adams, Hopkins, JuJu, C. Moore, Pierce, Goodwin
TE: Ferguson, Schultz, Knox, Tonyan, Jonnu
'25 Picks: 1, 1, 2, 3
Re: Rebuild - Trade Ertz?
Also - Kittle owner interested in a swap and add in a small piece
14 Team, 1/2 ppr: Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 2 Flex
QB: Hurts, Tua, Minshew
RB: Ekeler, Henry, Swift, Mattison, Gus, Gainwell, D. Harris, Carter, Strong
WR: Jefferson, CD, Waddle, Evans, Adams, Hopkins, JuJu, C. Moore, Pierce, Goodwin
TE: Ferguson, Schultz, Knox, Tonyan, Jonnu
'25 Picks: 1, 1, 2, 3
QB: Hurts, Tua, Minshew
RB: Ekeler, Henry, Swift, Mattison, Gus, Gainwell, D. Harris, Carter, Strong
WR: Jefferson, CD, Waddle, Evans, Adams, Hopkins, JuJu, C. Moore, Pierce, Goodwin
TE: Ferguson, Schultz, Knox, Tonyan, Jonnu
'25 Picks: 1, 1, 2, 3
Re: Rebuild - Trade Ertz?
Who's adding? If it's you, would depend on how small the piece is. If he's adding, doesn't matter what it is and I'd take it straight up. As for the other offers, I like the Sutton, Andrews, 1st one best (but I'd try to see if you can make the 2021 into a 2020 1st).Jangles wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:40 amAlso - Kittle owner interested in a swap and add in a small piece
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Re: Rebuild - Trade Ertz?
If you get Kittle + a small piece, that is a nice deal long term.
Re: Rebuild - Trade Ertz?
I like the Sutton, Andrews, 1st deal quite a bit. Agree you should push for a 2020 1st.
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2020 & 2021 CHAMPS (2022 Runner Up)
Start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1Flex 1TE 1K 23 Man Active Roster / 3 TAXI SQUAD SPOT
QB - L. Jackson, Cousins
RB - Swift, Ekeler, K. Mitchell, A. Mattison, D. Foreman, C. Rodriguez, E. Mitchell, S, Tucker, J. Wilson
WR - Amon Ra, D. Smith, M. Pittman, DK Metcalf, Jayden Reed, D. Douglas, K. Shakir, D. Wicks, T. Tucker, T. Scott
TE - Kelce, C. Otton, I. Likely, D. Washington
K - B. Aubrey
DEF - Eagles, Dolphins
12 Team PPR League / 5pt passing TDs
2020 & 2021 CHAMPS (2022 Runner Up)
Start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1Flex 1TE 1K 23 Man Active Roster / 3 TAXI SQUAD SPOT
QB - L. Jackson, Cousins
RB - Swift, Ekeler, K. Mitchell, A. Mattison, D. Foreman, C. Rodriguez, E. Mitchell, S, Tucker, J. Wilson
WR - Amon Ra, D. Smith, M. Pittman, DK Metcalf, Jayden Reed, D. Douglas, K. Shakir, D. Wicks, T. Tucker, T. Scott
TE - Kelce, C. Otton, I. Likely, D. Washington
K - B. Aubrey
DEF - Eagles, Dolphins
Re: Rebuild - Trade Ertz?
Definitely trade ertz in this situation. It's likely he's in a worse situation in 2 years. I like the Sutton, andrews, 2021 pick. If you can make it a 2020 1st (even if you need to add a late pick in 2020 or 2021) it would be better quite a bit. I'd be hesitant on the "early 2020 1st" since it's possible it's not as early as you think. The m Williams, Vance, and 2020 1st I probably like the least. Unless you can flip Williams and vamce for More assets
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Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE
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Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
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Team #6 orphan
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12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Team #3: back to back champion
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Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Team #4 3rd
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Team #5 4th
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Re: Rebuild - Trade Ertz?
The Sutton/Andrews deal is an easy accept for me. The other two, i'd strongly consider. I don't see Ertz having another year like last year and his value will prob only go down in the years moving forward. It's not that difficult to grab a young TE (see Andrews, Hock, etc) during a rebuild. However, getting one like Andrews as part of the deal makes it even sweeter. I'd pull the trigger on that and not look back.
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Re: Rebuild - Trade Ertz?
I like the Sutton deal also.
Re: Rebuild - Trade Ertz?
I appreciate all the input - I definitely have a better sense of direction where i should go with him
14 Team, 1/2 ppr: Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 2 Flex
QB: Hurts, Tua, Minshew
RB: Ekeler, Henry, Swift, Mattison, Gus, Gainwell, D. Harris, Carter, Strong
WR: Jefferson, CD, Waddle, Evans, Adams, Hopkins, JuJu, C. Moore, Pierce, Goodwin
TE: Ferguson, Schultz, Knox, Tonyan, Jonnu
'25 Picks: 1, 1, 2, 3
QB: Hurts, Tua, Minshew
RB: Ekeler, Henry, Swift, Mattison, Gus, Gainwell, D. Harris, Carter, Strong
WR: Jefferson, CD, Waddle, Evans, Adams, Hopkins, JuJu, C. Moore, Pierce, Goodwin
TE: Ferguson, Schultz, Knox, Tonyan, Jonnu
'25 Picks: 1, 1, 2, 3
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Re: Rebuild - Trade Ertz?
id prob lean MW, vance, and 2020 1st
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
Re: Rebuild - Trade Ertz?
This is the worst deal of the 3 imo. Who was talking about Kittle and an addon? If you can get him to give you Kittle and anything else at all, you should do that.
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QB: L. Jackson, J. Browning
RB: Aaron Jones, D'Ernest Johnson, E. Mitchell, Dalvin Cook, Jamaal Williams, Alexander Mattison, K. Miller, P. Taylor
WR: R. Doubs, G. Pickens, Christian Kirk, Juju, D. Hopkins, D. Wicks, K. Boutte
TE: Z. Ertz, C. Okonkwo, Trey McBride, Tucker Kraft
K: T. Bass, J. Moody
DEF: San Francisco
QB: L. Jackson, J. Browning
RB: Aaron Jones, D'Ernest Johnson, E. Mitchell, Dalvin Cook, Jamaal Williams, Alexander Mattison, K. Miller, P. Taylor
WR: R. Doubs, G. Pickens, Christian Kirk, Juju, D. Hopkins, D. Wicks, K. Boutte
TE: Z. Ertz, C. Okonkwo, Trey McBride, Tucker Kraft
K: T. Bass, J. Moody
DEF: San Francisco
Re: Rebuild - Trade Ertz?
Kittle swap would require me to add a small piece, sorry if that wasnt clear.
Going to try and pair Ertz up with AJG and get some youth first. Then if that doesnt work out, weigh my best options in picks or a kittle swap.
14 Team, 1/2 ppr: Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 2 Flex
QB: Hurts, Tua, Minshew
RB: Ekeler, Henry, Swift, Mattison, Gus, Gainwell, D. Harris, Carter, Strong
WR: Jefferson, CD, Waddle, Evans, Adams, Hopkins, JuJu, C. Moore, Pierce, Goodwin
TE: Ferguson, Schultz, Knox, Tonyan, Jonnu
'25 Picks: 1, 1, 2, 3
QB: Hurts, Tua, Minshew
RB: Ekeler, Henry, Swift, Mattison, Gus, Gainwell, D. Harris, Carter, Strong
WR: Jefferson, CD, Waddle, Evans, Adams, Hopkins, JuJu, C. Moore, Pierce, Goodwin
TE: Ferguson, Schultz, Knox, Tonyan, Jonnu
'25 Picks: 1, 1, 2, 3
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