Need advice on how to proceed

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Need advice on how to proceed

Postby Ski mask ready » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:57 pm

Hey I’m founder and Co-commissioner for this league. One of my strategies which sometimes rubs people the wrong way but also works occasionally at the same time is to offer large packages for targeted assets. We don’t have trade reviews, we don’t vote, we don’t veto. Everyone pays and can run their team however they want. With that said I sent the following trade offer and now kinda regret doing it since it was accepted solely for the fact I feel like it’s a bad deal for the other guy.

Offered: Antonio Brown, D Parker C Conely, M Davis and all 2022 picks

For: Diggs and Lockett

I do have to pay in advance for those picks. I haven’t done that yet nor had the trade been pushed through. In reality no one knows it’s there but me and the other guy. However I feel like this is a bad deal for this guy and this is solely a personal conscious thing. Not a league violation or anything. I feel like this trade will hurt this team more than help that is already in a serious rebuild.

Thoughts??
Team 1: 12 Team PPR, IDP Dynasty 40 Man Roster"
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Team 2: 12 Team Salary/Contract, PPR, IDP Dynasty 40 Man Roster"
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Re: Need advice on how to proceed

Postby bjd5211 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:17 pm

Dummy shouldn't have accepted, but AB is probably going to be fine (if he keeps his nose clean from here on) and maybe he gets something good out of those picks. He'll learn or leave.

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Re: Need advice on how to proceed

Postby MrUbuto » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:22 pm

I'd take the AB side.

You sure you aren't regretting it for yourself? Haha

What are the picks?
QB - DWatson(HOU)Minshew(JAX)Darnold(NYJ)
RB -NChubb(CLE)DHenry(TEN)JTaylor(IND)Gurley(ATL)
WR -DHopkins(ARI)ACooper(DAL)CGodwin(TB)OBJ(CLE)
TE - HHenry(SD)DGoeddart(PHI)
K - Zurlien(LAR)Crosby(GB)
Def - ARI DAL
[rookie] Haskins(WAS)DSwift(DET)Jefferson(MIN)MHardman(KC)
7th pick in 2021

Rosters must always be 3qbs 4wrs 4rbs 2tes 2kickers 2dst and protected players don't take up a roster spot, but are only for rookie/2nd-year players that were drafted

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Re: Need advice on how to proceed

Postby abloom » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:30 pm

Well the question is whether or not you believe week 1 is an anomaly or not. Hey maybe we're seeing AB going to a dominant offense and going to put up a season like Moss's first with the pats.

Conly will get junk time points like the arob bortles days, Mike Davis will be the rb1 in Chicago, and picks are picks.

Meanwhile diggs is now in an offense where they are going to run 75% of the time and split targets with theilin and possibly a te. Then you have lockett who has somehow managed to score on an insanely high percentage of his catches. Can he keep this up? Maybe. But he's still on a team that should be run first.

While I wouldn't have made i the trade, I can certainly see a narrative where he comes out on top. If you really feel bad offer him an additional asset.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K

Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders

Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K

Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

Team #3: back to back champion
14 team, SF, 1PPR (2PPR for TE), 1Q,2R,3W,1T,1SF,2F

Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson

Team #4 3rd
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Team #5 4th
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Re: Need advice on how to proceed

Postby jman3134 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:04 pm

It is a bet on if AB will play because he is better than both those guys. If he plays this year, he wins this deal.
12 team, 35 man rosters, 1/2 PPR, 10 round rookie/FA draft
Qb: Geno Smith, Matthew Stafford, Trey Lance
Rb: Jonathan Taylor, Joe Mixon, Austin Ekeler, Saquon Barkley, Cam Akers, Isiah Pacheco, Jeff Wilson, Chase Edmonds, Pierre Strong, Jordan Mason, Jaleel McLaughlin
Wr: DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, Diontae Johnson, Darnell Mooney, Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Jakobi Meyers, Laviska Shenault, Donovan Peoples-Jones, Denzel Mims, Richie James, Michael Wilson, Demario Douglas, Trent Sherfield
Te: George Kittle, Darren Waller, Taysom Hill, Isaiah Likely
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D: Dallas D

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Re: Need advice on how to proceed

Postby honcho55 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:10 pm

All 2022 picks meaning what? A 1,2,3,4?

If that’s the case this is more than fine. If I’m full rebuild I don’t particularly want to build around Diggs or Lockett.

I don’t know what to make of brown right now, but who knows. Maybe he turns in a moss like season under Brady. Maybe he gets exempt listed and is done with the NFL soon. Maybe dude can flip him in the meantime. Hard to say.

I wouldn’t worry.
main league, half PPR, all TDs 6, -3 for INT
12 team. 2019 champ, 2020 runner up, ‘21 3rd
start 2SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2WRT

QB: T Lawrence, K Cousins, R Wilson, Z Wilson
RB: K Walker, T Ettiene, JK Dobbins, D Gore, J Hasty, D Johnson, L Rountree
WR: JJ, AJB, A Cooper, Juju, C Kirk, J Dotson, N Westbrook-Ikhine, I McKenzie
TE. T Kelce, Pitts, Albert O, D Parham, J O’Shaunessy

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Re: Need advice on how to proceed

Postby MrUbuto » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:27 pm

Bottom line is I see no reason a commisioner or any kind of gore needs to be in play here.

Option A AB balls out and team A got AB and a plethora of picks

Option B team A rolled the dice on AB and failed miserable. Oh well it happens
QB - DWatson(HOU)Minshew(JAX)Darnold(NYJ)
RB -NChubb(CLE)DHenry(TEN)JTaylor(IND)Gurley(ATL)
WR -DHopkins(ARI)ACooper(DAL)CGodwin(TB)OBJ(CLE)
TE - HHenry(SD)DGoeddart(PHI)
K - Zurlien(LAR)Crosby(GB)
Def - ARI DAL
[rookie] Haskins(WAS)DSwift(DET)Jefferson(MIN)MHardman(KC)
7th pick in 2021

Rosters must always be 3qbs 4wrs 4rbs 2tes 2kickers 2dst and protected players don't take up a roster spot, but are only for rookie/2nd-year players that were drafted

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Re: Need advice on how to proceed

Postby moishetreats » Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:12 am

The trade is done, push it through.

(I wonder if you're really regretting it more so than worried about the other owner. )
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball

QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble

2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th



12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball

QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186

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Re: Need advice on how to proceed

Postby mratlanta » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:49 am

I'd probably take the AB side so you should push it through and cry in 2022 when you don't have any picks.
12-team Non-PPR QB, 2-RB, 3-WR, TE, K, DEF
QB: Mahomes, Cam, Tannehill
RB: LeVeon, Jordan Howard, Latavius, Bryce Love, Ty Johnson
WR: OBJ, Antonio Brown, Corey Davis, Robby Anderson, Anthony Miller, Arcega-Whiteside,
Diontae Johnson, Hakeem Butler, DJ Chark, Darius Slayton
TE: OJ Howard, Evan Engram, Gerald Everett
K: Zuerlein
DEF: KC

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Re: Need advice on how to proceed

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:14 pm

I see no issue with this trade...Brown has the potential to finish as the no. 1 fantasy WR this year in NE.
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QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
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Re: Need advice on how to proceed

Postby Prison_Mike » Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:58 pm

abloom wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:30 pm Well the question is whether or not you believe week 1 is an anomaly or not. Hey maybe we're seeing AB going to a dominant offense and going to put up a season like Moss's first with the pats.

Conly will get junk time points like the arob bortles days, Mike Davis will be the rb1 in Chicago, and picks are picks.

Meanwhile diggs is now in an offense where they are going to run 75% of the time and split targets with theilin and possibly a te. Then you have lockett who has somehow managed to score on an insanely high percentage of his catches. Can he keep this up? Maybe. But he's still on a team that should be run first.

While I wouldn't have made i the trade, I can certainly see a narrative where he comes out on top. If you really feel bad offer him an additional asset.
That's quite a hot take to sneak in there, sir

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Re: Need advice on how to proceed

Postby MrUbuto » Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:11 pm

Prison_Mike wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:58 pm
abloom wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:30 pm Well the question is whether or not you believe week 1 is an anomaly or not. Hey maybe we're seeing AB going to a dominant offense and going to put up a season like Moss's first with the pats.

Conly will get junk time points like the arob bortles days, Mike Davis will be the rb1 in Chicago, and picks are picks.

Meanwhile diggs is now in an offense where they are going to run 75% of the time and split targets with theilin and possibly a te. Then you have lockett who has somehow managed to score on an insanely high percentage of his catches. Can he keep this up? Maybe. But he's still on a team that should be run first.

While I wouldn't have made i the trade, I can certainly see a narrative where he comes out on top. If you really feel bad offer him an additional asset.
That's quite a hot take to sneak in there, sir
Yea everyone just kind of ignored that scalding hot take.
QB - DWatson(HOU)Minshew(JAX)Darnold(NYJ)
RB -NChubb(CLE)DHenry(TEN)JTaylor(IND)Gurley(ATL)
WR -DHopkins(ARI)ACooper(DAL)CGodwin(TB)OBJ(CLE)
TE - HHenry(SD)DGoeddart(PHI)
K - Zurlien(LAR)Crosby(GB)
Def - ARI DAL
[rookie] Haskins(WAS)DSwift(DET)Jefferson(MIN)MHardman(KC)
7th pick in 2021

Rosters must always be 3qbs 4wrs 4rbs 2tes 2kickers 2dst and protected players don't take up a roster spot, but are only for rookie/2nd-year players that were drafted

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Re: Need advice on how to proceed

Postby _yeti » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:10 pm

Ski mask ready wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:57 pm this is solely a personal conscious thing
That name plus that quote lol
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