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Re: Release the guice

Postby ninotoreS » Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:46 am

Successful first day of practice for Guice, his first proper football played since last August.

https://twitter.com/InstantRHIplay/stat ... 6774927361
https://twitter.com/InstantRHIplay/stat ... 5684930563
https://twitter.com/PeteHaileyNBCS/stat ... 7721889798
https://twitter.com/FowlerRyan1/status/ ... 3591141382 (slightly closer look)
https://twitter.com/InstantRHIplay/stat ... 3881948160
https://twitter.com/JPFinlayNBCS/status ... 4637641728
https://twitter.com/NBC4Sports/status/1 ... 3760129024
https://twitter.com/SherreeBurruss/stat ... 4132705283

For those that might not know yet, Gruden and of course the practice itself confirm that Guice is practicing with zero limitations, knee or hammy or anything else. He's fully healed, apparently 100% healthy.
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Re: Release the guice

Postby briank » Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:18 am

ninotoreS wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:53 pm Told y'all it was probably much ado about nothing.

For those of you in redraft, I'm seeing Guice in the lower 30s now for RB adp. Even if you're not a particular believer, you should jump all over that. Because it's just logical -- he's being priced as an RB3, and yet all it will take is an injury to a 34 y/o to vault him to box-scores like Chubb's last season.
Any hamstring issues after an ACL tear are not much ado about nothing.
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Re: Release the guice

Postby ninotoreS » Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:20 am

briank wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:18 am Any hamstring issues after an ACL tear are not much ado about nothing.
And yet, it was. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The report was dubious click / re-tweet bait all along.
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Re: Release the guice

Postby briank » Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:46 am

ninotoreS wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:20 am
briank wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:18 am Any hamstring issues after an ACL tear are not much ado about nothing.
And yet, it was. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The report was dubious click / re-tweet bait all along.
If he in fact never had an issue with his hamstring, yes. Again, hamstring issues tend to linger. I was concerned about him before the reported hamstring issue.
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Re: Release the guice

Postby FantasyDumDum » Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:14 pm

The hamstring issue I remember happening and reading a beat reporter on twitter saying he thought it was not even a classifiable injury(even less than grade 1 - which is mild 2-3 weeks recovery with no lasting impact), and it happened roughly 6 weeks ago. Then several weeks after seeing that report it went “public” with NFL.com and other national reporters, despite it not being a meaningful or important story. They asked Gruden about it in mid July(it was like 3 or 4 weeks after I heard the report first) and he was a bit perplexed, saying it wasn’t a concern.

Guice was also fully cleared on Tuesday of this week by team doctors. And while it IS hard to trust the Redskins medical staff, this seems like beyond a nothing burger.

Wish we could see the big run today in practice, all the writers are gushing about it on Twitter right now.
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Re: Release the guice

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:08 pm

FantasyDumDum wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:14 pm The hamstring issue I remember happening and reading a beat reporter on twitter saying he thought it was not even a classifiable injury(even less than grade 1 - which is mild 2-3 weeks recovery with no lasting impact), and it happened roughly 6 weeks ago. Then several weeks after seeing that report it went “public” with NFL.com and other national reporters, despite it not being a meaningful or important story. They asked Gruden about it in mid July(it was like 3 or 4 weeks after I heard the report first) and he was a bit perplexed, saying it wasn’t a concern.

Guice was also fully cleared on Tuesday of this week by team doctors. And while it IS hard to trust the Redskins medical staff, this seems like beyond a nothing burger.

Wish we could see the big run today in practice, all the writers are gushing about it on Twitter right now.
Guice must have pissed someone off. First the hit job on his character during the nfl draft which causes him to fall. Then the news that he was having a slow recovery from the surgery which was basically just old news, we already knew about the setbacks from infections which he was already past at the time. Now this hamstring bombshell that turns out was over a month old and not even a big deal at the time.

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Re: Release the guice

Postby DLF3000 » Thu Jul 25, 2019 4:41 pm

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:08 pm
FantasyDumDum wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:14 pm Wish we could see the big run today in practice, all the writers are gushing about it on Twitter right now.
Guice must have pissed someone off. First the hit job on his character during the nfl draft which causes him to fall. Then the news that he was having a slow recovery from the surgery which was basically just old news, we already knew about the setbacks from infections which he was already past at the time. Now this hamstring bombshell that turns out was over a month old and not even a big deal at the time.
Yeah, seems like it - then again, it is Washington, which has looked like a dumpster fire franchise for a while now.

I'm genuinely surprised and relieved he was back today and looked good. I mean, could Guice owners, especially those who drafted him, have received any better news? :thumbup:
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Re: Release the guice

Postby kamihamster » Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:16 pm

This may be the last chance you get to buy Guice low. If you believed in the talent last year before his injury he has fallen a lot since then.
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Re: Release the guice

Postby XxBallMeBlazerxX » Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:42 pm

ninotoreS wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:20 am
briank wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:18 am Any hamstring issues after an ACL tear are not much ado about nothing.
And yet, it was. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The report was dubious click / re-tweet bait all along.
Hamstring issues are common the first year back from an acl tear and can linger. It’s definitely not something to be ignored.

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Re: Release the guice

Postby Huh » Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:50 pm

XxBallMeBlazerxX wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:42 pm
ninotoreS wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:20 am
briank wrote: Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:18 am Any hamstring issues after an ACL tear are not much ado about nothing.
And yet, it was. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The report was dubious click / re-tweet bait all along.
Hamstring issues are common the first year back from an acl tear and can linger. It’s definitely not something to be ignored.
Don’t ignore it. Take advantage of it. Guice is my rb 4 (drafted him) 4 (acquired for early second) and 5 (acquired for 2 late seconds) I’m not relying on him (hopefully). It feels good having that in my back pocket.

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Re: Release the guice

Postby DJB » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:22 pm

12 team half ppr super flex

Give : D Freeman, 2020 2nd

Get: D Guice , 2020 1st

1st is currently projected to be 4th but to be safe Ill probably say it lands at least a top 6 pick
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Re: Release the guice

Postby jcc6fd » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:24 pm

^ looks like a good deal for you
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Re: Release the guice

Postby bjd5211 » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:50 pm

DJB wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:22 pm 12 team half ppr super flex

Give : D Freeman, 2020 2nd

Get: D Guice , 2020 1st

1st is currently projected to be 4th but to be safe Ill probably say it lands at least a top 6 pick
I would glady take Guice or the 1 straight up for Freeman, amazing deal for you.

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Re: Release the guice

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:40 pm

DJB wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:22 pm 12 team half ppr super flex

Give : D Freeman, 2020 2nd

Get: D Guice , 2020 1st

1st is currently projected to be 4th but to be safe Ill probably say it lands at least a top 6 pick
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Re: Release the guice

Postby ninotoreS » Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:27 am

DJB wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:22 pm 12 team half ppr super flex

Give : D Freeman, 2020 2nd

Get: D Guice , 2020 1st

1st is currently projected to be 4th but to be safe Ill probably say it lands at least a top 6 pick
I'm a long time Free supporter, and I would break my mouse1 button clicking accept on your side of this deal.
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