I came here to mention Abdullah. Obviously playing well in the preseason is better than not, but agree that you can’t read much into it. Good time for patient owners to capitalize on hype or premature disappointmentPhaded wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:21 amReading into any running back performance in the preseason is a poor idea, regardless of who it is. They are running in a vanilla scheme behind what will not even be the starting line.
Criticizing Henderson but ignoring that a guy like Sanders had an even worse performance is hilariously hypocritical.
Remember when this place hopped all over Ameer Abdullah because he performed well in the preseason?
You would think the lesson would be learned by now.
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What we know for sure.
Darrell Henderson. 8 yards on 7 touches. Bust
Miles Sanders 3 carries for 3 yards -Super Bust
Jacoby Meyers 6 catches, 2 TD's. Stud
Daniel Jones>Kyler Murray.
Darrell Henderson. 8 yards on 7 touches. Bust
Miles Sanders 3 carries for 3 yards -Super Bust
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I go through the same thing every season. I ranked RoJo & Penny well below average last year. I talked about how bad RoJo & Penny looked in the preseason and people got on my case. Penny wasn't used correctly, still isn't being used correctly.
DH also isn't being used correctly. He's not a lack of talent guy like RoJo is, but he's definitely not a 3 down back. I think this past game's usage of DH was done on purpose. I hope to see him used correctly more often these next few weeks. He's not a bust, he's just not a 3 down back.
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This is just an informal question, in the past who have you been wrong about,dlf_mikeh wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:06 amI go through the same thing every season. I ranked RoJo & Penny well below average last year. I talked about how bad RoJo & Penny looked in the preseason and people got on my case. Penny wasn't used correctly, still isn't being used correctly.
DH also isn't being used correctly. He's not a lack of talent guy like RoJo is, but he's definitely not a 3 down back. I think this past game's usage of DH was done on purpose. I hope to see him used correctly more often these next few weeks. He's not a bust, he's just not a 3 down back.
Meaning who did you think was going to be good and was bad, and who did you think was going to be bad ended up being good?
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A user on this forum already did that research for me. Supposedly Paul Perkins in 2016 was my last bad call, mostly because I was basing it on stats alone, not film. viewtopic.php?p=1625191#p1625191
I'm sure I was wrong about others between then and now.
I've been following RBs very closely in mini camp and training camp. Not one peep good or bad about Henderson, tons of great things being said daily about Sanders. This is why the 3 carries for 3 yards doesn't bother me, but DH failing to run up the middle or make positive yards of a blown play does bother me because that's exactly what I saw in college game after game. He's best utilized in sweeps, tosses, and the passing game. If the Rams continue to run him up the middle, everyone will be disappointed.
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I was never chomping at the bit to get Henderson, but seriously go watch that game. He got hit at or behind the LoS repeatedly. As stated above, the Rams shouldnt be trying to run him up the gut. He isnt that type of player. He definitely gets a pass for that. Same with Sanders. TEN has a brutally good run defense (anyone who had Saquon week 15 last season knows this) and none of the starting Oline for Philly was in the game. So everyone should just chill.
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Yes sir I believe I said that.
Maybe we disagree here? If you can't run up the middle, you aren't a 3 down back. You are not capable of being a top 20 guy unless there's tons of passing involved and it's a ppr league (Cohen/White). We agree that he isn't that type of player, so we also agree that he's being over-drafted?As stated above, the Rams shouldnt be trying to run him up the gut. He isnt that type of player. He definitely gets a pass for that.
I'd rather own Devin Singletary than Darrell Henderson. What say you Mr Bot?
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Maybe I went too far. I think he can run between the tackles, but thats not where his strength lies. It was like watching how the Cards used DJ last season. DJ is such an explosive player with exceptional pass catching ability but the Cards just ran him off center non stop.dlf_mikeh wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 1:13 pmYes sir I believe I said that.
Maybe we disagree here? If you can't run up the middle, you aren't a 3 down back. You are not capable of being a top 20 guy unless there's tons of passing involved and it's a ppr league (Cohen/White). We agree that he isn't that type of player, so we also agree that he's being over-drafted?As stated above, the Rams shouldnt be trying to run him up the gut. He isnt that type of player. He definitely gets a pass for that.
I'd rather own Devin Singletary than Darrell Henderson. What say you Mr Bot?
I absolutely agree that Henderson is being over drafted. Ive read people saying he went as high as 1.02 in some rookie drafts. Woof.
Henderson vs Singletary? Yeah I cant go that far. I dont like Singletary. I like my RBs to be athletic, especially if they are small. And he is the opposite of athletic. In my home league I took Sanders, Justice Hill, and Darwin Thompson and left Singletary on the board.
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Oh we disagree here. Devin is saddened to hear you say that. Here's a few clips of my non-athletic RB.
Run ahead at full speed, stop and juke 3 defenders covering him at all angles. Was he ever even touched?

How about this non-athletic juke?

I wish I could slow this one down. He stutter-steps while juking to the inside. I don't know if I've ever seen that before. If you could see this in slow motion, it's ridiculous.

I wonder what your definition of "athletic" is.


I could probably do this all day. It's not hard to find amazingly ATHLETIC plays by this kid.

Actually this is kind of fun! And I'm only 2 minutes into a 12 minute highlight video.

OK I'll stop

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Quoting this so it may jog your memory when someone asks the question next year about your being wrong about a player.dlf_mikeh wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:34 pmA user on this forum already did that research for me. Supposedly Paul Perkins in 2016 was my last bad call, mostly because I was basing it on stats alone, not film. viewtopic.php?p=1625191#p1625191
I'm sure I was wrong about others between then and now.
I've been following RBs very closely in mini camp and training camp. Not one peep good or bad about Henderson, tons of great things being said daily about Sanders. This is why the 3 carries for 3 yards doesn't bother me, but DH failing to run up the middle or make positive yards of a blown play does bother me because that's exactly what I saw in college game after game. He's best utilized in sweeps, tosses, and the passing game. If the Rams continue to run him up the middle, everyone will be disappointed.
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Well, only 13 posts on the forum and seems like someone is out to get Mike!
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lol, good point. Happens every year, but not usually by the new guys.TimeWillTell wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:29 pmWell, only 13 posts on the forum and seems like someone is out to get Mike!
FWIW, I've been very lucky. There's no way I'm going to continue to have the streak I'm having. I'm enjoying it for now, but sooner than later it'll come to a crashing halt. But for now, weeee!
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His utter lack of humility combined with the self aggrandizement is fascinating. You think the number of posts at this forum means anything in particular?TimeWillTell wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:29 pmWell, only 13 posts on the forum and seems like someone is out to get Mike!
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Not gonna lie, I had to look that up. Aggrandizement? Never heard of it.Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:37 pmHis utter lack of humility combined with the self aggrandizement is fascinating. You think the number of posts at thus forum means anything in particular?TimeWillTell wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:29 pmWell, only 13 posts on the forum and seems like someone is out to get Mike!
I've admitted more than once that I feel very comfortable in my ability to accurately peg RBs. I need work in the WR, QB, TE field. I study as much as I can but my confidence in those positions is no where near my RB confidence and that may never change.
And no, 13 posts means nothing. He was just joshing. You used 2-3 of those posts to come at me, that's what's funny is all.
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Plenty of people here disagree strongly with Mike all the time. My comment as that you haven't been here long (maybe longtime lurker?) and already you had obviously developed a negative opinion. Post count of 13 with 2 posted directed at him back to back.Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:37 pmHis utter lack of humility combined with the self aggrandizement is fascinating. You think the number of posts at this forum means anything in particular?TimeWillTell wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:29 pmWell, only 13 posts on the forum and seems like someone is out to get Mike!
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