What can I get for my entire trade block combined

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What can I get for my entire trade block combined

Postby FantasyDumDum » Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:53 pm

Team in sig. Here is my trade block:

Brees

Drake
Breida
I Smith
Edmonds

Jeffery
Callaway

2019 1.10(several league members had summer travel so we are drafting late)


QUESTION:

What can I realistically get in a trade for all of these pieces combined? Targeting 1 or 2 players, or draft picks
10 team, .5ppr, 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/1Flex

QB: Brees, Cousins
RB: CMC, D Williams, Drake, Guice, Penny, RoJo, Breida, I Smith, Edmonds
WR: AB, ARob, Ridley, Jeffery, Shepard, Pettis, Miller, Washington, MVS, Callaway
TE: Kelce, Herndon, Andrews

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Picks:
2019 1.10, 2.10, 3.10, 4.10
2020 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: What can I get for my entire trade block combined

Postby Gator Sens » Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:56 pm

You should be able to add a 2020 1st for those pieces. I think this more depends on what you are looking for and in what tier. Maybe a young upside wr like DJ Moore for all the pieces and your 2019 1st.

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Re: What can I get for my entire trade block combined

Postby FantasyDumDum » Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:16 pm

Gator Sens wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:56 pm You should be able to add a 2020 1st for those pieces. I think this more depends on what you are looking for and in what tier. Maybe a young upside wr like DJ Moore for all the pieces and your 2019 1st.
Hmmm. According to current Mizelle ADP data, the players on the trade block have a 2019 draft picks value of:
My evaluation in [ ]
Brees(2.05)[4.03]

Drake(1.05)[1.10]
Breida(2.02)[3.02]
I Smith(2.01)[3.03]
Edmonds(2.04)[3.04]

Jeffery(1.08)[2.03]
Callaway(2.05)[3.08]

1.10 (1.10)[1.10]

So that would be the equivalent of, using Mizelle ADP:
1.05, 1.08, 1.10, 2.01, 2.02, 2.04, 2.05, 2.05 for Moore?

Or from my evaluations also coming from many various sources:
1.10, 1.10, 2.03, 3.02, 3.03, 3.04, 3.08, 4.03 for Moore?

Even the second one, which is more realistic, in this year’s draft, would be something like:
Hockenson, Henderson, JJAW, D Johnson, Boykin, Love, Armstead, D Thompson. For Moore? Or a 2020 1st?


Isn’t that insane?
10 team, .5ppr, 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/1Flex

QB: Brees, Cousins
RB: CMC, D Williams, Drake, Guice, Penny, RoJo, Breida, I Smith, Edmonds
WR: AB, ARob, Ridley, Jeffery, Shepard, Pettis, Miller, Washington, MVS, Callaway
TE: Kelce, Herndon, Andrews

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Picks:
2019 1.10, 2.10, 3.10, 4.10
2020 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: What can I get for my entire trade block combined

Postby repkllrs » Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:48 pm

The problem with you trying to trade all of that in 1 trade is that whomever your trade partner is, he is going to value some of those pieces not at all. It would be suprising if you could trade that package for full value.
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Re: What can I get for my entire trade block combined

Postby Cherokee » Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:16 pm

I would send a Drake + Jeffery offer out to contenders asking for a 2020 1st+ a peice you like.
Ito and Brees arent worth anything of note
And I would hold Breida, Callaway and Edumonds and trade them in-season as all 3 guys will have at least 1 big game at some point
You wont get anywhere near what you're thinking
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QB- Kenny Pickett, Jake Haener, Clayton Tune
RB- Jerrick McKinnon, Elijah Mitchell, Gus Edwards, Kenneth Gainwell, TDP, Jordan Mason
WR- Rondale Moore, Drake London, Jordan Addison, Terrence Marshall , Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, Mecole Hardman, Rashid Shaheed, David Bell
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Re: What can I get for my entire trade block combined

Postby TimeWillTell » Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:18 pm

You can probably get DWill

Oh, you already have him. That's fortunate. But def don't get rid of Drake, he's elite in FPPT as per your thread.
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WR: Chase, Jefferson, AJB, Lamb, DJM, Olave, Dotson, Mike Evans
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Re: What can I get for my entire trade block combined

Postby RB6 » Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:41 pm

Trading that many players in one deal is a hard sell. You’re better off piecing it out. Or using them as sweeteners.
.5PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
LJax, Burrow, Carr, Huntley, Heinicke, Cunningham
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, Kirk, Wiliams, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Hodgins, Hutchinson
CMC, Barkley, Mostert, Ford, Moss, Dobbins, Dillon, Kelley, Tucker
Andrews, Higbee

PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
Mahomes, Purdy, Dalton, Henicke, Trask, Zappe
Henry, Pacheco, Robinson, Wilson, Ford, Chandler, Deuce
Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
Pitts, Waller, Washington

PPR Best Ball Dynasty SF .5TEP
Stroud, Cousins, Willis, Mariota, Cunningham
Walker, J Cook, Miller, Zamir, Rodriguez, Carter, Penny
St. Brown, Aiyuk, DJ Moore, London, Doubs, Metchie, Scott, Claypool
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Re: What can I get for my entire trade block combined

Postby FantasyDumDum » Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:12 pm

I never said all the pieces must be together. My response was to a poster saying all the pieces together are worth DJ Moore, when objectively they are worth significantly more.
10 team, .5ppr, 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/1Flex

QB: Brees, Cousins
RB: CMC, D Williams, Drake, Guice, Penny, RoJo, Breida, I Smith, Edmonds
WR: AB, ARob, Ridley, Jeffery, Shepard, Pettis, Miller, Washington, MVS, Callaway
TE: Kelce, Herndon, Andrews

Taxi Squad:

Picks:
2019 1.10, 2.10, 3.10, 4.10
2020 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: What can I get for my entire trade block combined

Postby RB6 » Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:26 pm

FantasyDumDum wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:12 pm I never said all the pieces must be together. My response was to a poster saying all the pieces together are worth DJ Moore, when objectively they are worth significantly more.
Yes you did. You asked what you could get for all the pieces combined.
.5PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
LJax, Burrow, Carr, Huntley, Heinicke, Cunningham
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, Kirk, Wiliams, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Hodgins, Hutchinson
CMC, Barkley, Mostert, Ford, Moss, Dobbins, Dillon, Kelley, Tucker
Andrews, Higbee

PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
Mahomes, Purdy, Dalton, Henicke, Trask, Zappe
Henry, Pacheco, Robinson, Wilson, Ford, Chandler, Deuce
Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
Pitts, Waller, Washington

PPR Best Ball Dynasty SF .5TEP
Stroud, Cousins, Willis, Mariota, Cunningham
Walker, J Cook, Miller, Zamir, Rodriguez, Carter, Penny
St. Brown, Aiyuk, DJ Moore, London, Doubs, Metchie, Scott, Claypool
Kincaid, Dulcich, Fant, Turner, Hurst

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Re: What can I get for my entire trade block combined

Postby jwb32 » Sat Aug 03, 2019 3:58 am

Cherokee wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:16 pm I would send a Drake + Jeffery offer out to contenders asking for a 2020 1st+ a peice you like.
Ito and Brees arent worth anything of note
And I would hold Breida, Callaway and Edumonds and trade them in-season as all 3 guys will have at least 1 big game at some point
You wont get anywhere near what you're thinking
I agree with this assessment. Furthermore, adding players like Smith and Callaway won't increase your return and could actually make it more difficult to get a deal done.
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RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
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TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04

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Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
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Re: What can I get for my entire trade block combined

Postby jwb32 » Sat Aug 03, 2019 3:59 am

RB6 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:26 pm
FantasyDumDum wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:12 pm I never said all the pieces must be together. My response was to a poster saying all the pieces together are worth DJ Moore, when objectively they are worth significantly more.
Yes you did. You asked what you could get for all the pieces combined.
That's how I understood it as well.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)

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Re: What can I get for my entire trade block combined

Postby prinefan » Sat Aug 03, 2019 5:32 am

jwb32 wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 3:59 am
RB6 wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:26 pm
FantasyDumDum wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:12 pm I never said all the pieces must be together. My response was to a poster saying all the pieces together are worth DJ Moore, when objectively they are worth significantly more.
Yes you did. You asked what you could get for all the pieces combined.
That's how I understood it as well.
Me too.

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Re: What can I get for my entire trade block combined

Postby jcc6fd » Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:20 am

This is a nickels for dollar type of thing and though it may appear that their cumulative value is something worthwhile, outside of very large leagues that depth losses value with each added piece you need to get a single valuable piece. As others said it’s hard to do this because the other owner has to take on all that roster space they absolutely don’t have.

So whether you meant it or not, you can’t really have an intelligent conversation about their cumulative value without acknowledging they lose exponential value with each piece you add. Plus trading them in smaller packages won’t yield you the same value in as a single high end piece, unless the stars aligned and you turned 12 small pieces into 4-6 decent ones, and then those 4-6 into the 1-2 good pieces you’re trying to get. Seems highly unlikely
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