Thoughts On Mariota??
Re: Thoughts On Mariota??
I would not consider Mariota to be a system QB or a QB that can only thrive in one system. However he does seem like a QB that works within the structure of what he is given, and is not the type of QB to freelance/create much on his own. As such, his development may need better coaching, so that Coaches can give him better structure and better plays to fit his skillset. In other words Mariota could use someone similar to what Winston is getting in Arians. I guess we'll see if his QB coach (Pat Ohara former QB himself) can fit the bill this year.
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Re: Thoughts On Mariota??
Never owned him never will.
He is in line with a ton of very average NFL QB’s over the years.
Decision making is suspect
No killer instinct
Doesn’t really throw players open.
Injury risk
Running team.
Could he turn it around, sure but this is his last year to prove it.
Much risk with this player.
He has the look of an above average back up
He is in line with a ton of very average NFL QB’s over the years.
Decision making is suspect
No killer instinct
Doesn’t really throw players open.
Injury risk
Running team.
Could he turn it around, sure but this is his last year to prove it.
Much risk with this player.
He has the look of an above average back up
The Clock is Running and there are no Timeouts
Re: Thoughts On Mariota??
Some recent Mariota articles
https://titansized.com/2019/07/01/marcu ... -football/
https://titanswire.usatoday.com/2019/07 ... -weakness/
https://titansized.com/2019/07/01/marcu ... -football/
https://titanswire.usatoday.com/2019/07 ... -weakness/
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Re: Thoughts On Mariota??
These 2 right here. Never played all 16 games in 4 seasons, and it looks like he is waiting for Oregon sized throwing windows to open before he releases the ball. Those windows just aren't there very much in the NFL. I agree he looks like a quality backup that could maybe have some good stretches if everything around him went perfectly.Ice wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 7:09 pm Never owned him never will.
He is in line with a ton of very average NFL QB’s over the years.
Decision making is suspect
No killer instinct
Doesn’t really throw players open.
Injury risk
Running team.
Could he turn it around, sure but this is his last year to prove it.
Much risk with this player.
He has the look of an above average back up
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Re: Thoughts On Mariota??
Didn't he flash towards the end of his Rookie or Sophmore year? I remember him being the overall QB1 for a 4-6 week stretch a couple of years ago.
He doesn't deserve all the blame for what has been a bland offense with little weapons surrounding him. His best weapon has been who, Walker? That isn't factored in enough in this discussion, IMO. Plus, isn't he loved by teammates and a good leader?
He's a buy in 2QB leagues if you can get him at QB3 prices. There's enough upside that I'm willing to gamble on him at these prices. He doesn't carry much if any value in start one leagues.
He doesn't deserve all the blame for what has been a bland offense with little weapons surrounding him. His best weapon has been who, Walker? That isn't factored in enough in this discussion, IMO. Plus, isn't he loved by teammates and a good leader?
He's a buy in 2QB leagues if you can get him at QB3 prices. There's enough upside that I'm willing to gamble on him at these prices. He doesn't carry much if any value in start one leagues.
Re: Thoughts On Mariota??
He had success his rookie season in the same circumstances that Jared Goff/Mitchell Trubisky looked horrendous in. (run heavy offense with no receiving threat).dipANDglide wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:15 pm Didn't he flash towards the end of his Rookie or Sophmore year? I remember him being the overall QB1 for a 4-6 week stretch a couple of years ago.
He doesn't deserve all the blame for what has been a bland offense with little weapons surrounding him. His best weapon has been who, Walker? That isn't factored in enough in this discussion, IMO. Plus, isn't he loved by teammates and a good leader?
He's a buy in 2QB leagues if you can get him at QB3 prices. There's enough upside that I'm willing to gamble on him at these prices. He doesn't carry much if any value in start one leagues.
But I get it, people are slaves to recency bias; and overall circumstances are undervalued at the QB position.
You can make a pretty sound case that he's a bust; just as easily as you could make a case that he hasn't been given the circumstances needed to truly evaluate him.
He's a buy for me as well, but I can understand the trepidation here after 2 straight years of severely underwhelming play.
If things don't work out this year I'll probably own him on every roster; I believe he'd flourish on a lot of other teams.
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Re: Thoughts On Mariota??
I'd be happy to see him succeed. But I'm of the mindset that his career will ultimately look similar to that of his current backup.
The Titans will try to roll with him as their franchise QB with middling results, eventually realizing that he is what he is. A desirable NFL #2 or "bridge" QB, but not a true difference maker.
All conjecture obviously, but I haven't seen enough progression from him to feel otherwise at this point.
The Titans will try to roll with him as their franchise QB with middling results, eventually realizing that he is what he is. A desirable NFL #2 or "bridge" QB, but not a true difference maker.
All conjecture obviously, but I haven't seen enough progression from him to feel otherwise at this point.
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Re: Thoughts On Mariota??
Pretty much this .Ice wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 7:09 pm Never owned him never will.
He is in line with a ton of very average NFL QB’s over the years.
Decision making is suspect
No killer instinct
Doesn’t really throw players open.
Injury risk
Running team.
Could he turn it around, sure but this is his last year to prove it.
Much risk with this player.
He has the look of an above average back up
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Re: Thoughts On Mariota??
no killer instinct might be the biggest lie on this website, go watch the jaguars win and get in game and the KC wild card game from 2 years ago and tell me he doesn't have a killer instinctIce wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 7:09 pm Never owned him never will.
He is in line with a ton of very average NFL QB’s over the years.
Decision making is suspect
No killer instinct
Doesn’t really throw players open.
Injury risk
Running team.
Could he turn it around, sure but this is his last year to prove it.
Much risk with this player.
He has the look of an above average back up
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Re: Thoughts On Mariota??
I think he's a buy in superflex his value is so low but in 1QB leagues he's now worth a spot
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Re: Thoughts On Mariota??
He's definitely worth a roster spot in Dynasty leagues.JOHNNY_COCKTAIL wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:59 am I think he's a buy in superflex his value is so low but in 1QB leagues he's now worth a spot
In redraft, 100% agree though.
Re: Thoughts On Mariota??
ayrichieb wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:54 amno killer instinct might be the biggest lie on this website, go watch the jaguars win and get in game and the KC wild card game from 2 years ago and tell me he doesn't have a killer instinctIce wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 7:09 pm Never owned him never will.
He is in line with a ton of very average NFL QB’s over the years.
Decision making is suspect
No killer instinct
Doesn’t really throw players open.
Injury risk
Running team.
Could he turn it around, sure but this is his last year to prove it.
Much risk with this player.
He has the look of an above average back up
A broken clock is right twice in 24 hours. Go look at all his other games and report back.
The Clock is Running and there are no Timeouts
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Re: Thoughts On Mariota??
Imagine still making fantasy football decisions on whether or not you think a player has “killer instinct” in 2019.
Mariota has been a QB2 each of the last 3 years, but has a QB3 ADP. He has the best receiving options of his career. He’s an easy buy low in Superflex startups.
Mariota has been a QB2 each of the last 3 years, but has a QB3 ADP. He has the best receiving options of his career. He’s an easy buy low in Superflex startups.
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Re: Thoughts On Mariota??
lol ive watched every snap of his career, go watch his tape vs the lions his sophomore year or the cowboys game this year on MNF or the chargers game in london this year when he was playing with 1 and 1/4 of a hand .. list goes on and on . i agree hes not a good fantasy qb but to say he doesn't have a killer instinct is laughableIce wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:31 pmayrichieb wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:54 amno killer instinct might be the biggest lie on this website, go watch the jaguars win and get in game and the KC wild card game from 2 years ago and tell me he doesn't have a killer instinctIce wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2019 7:09 pm Never owned him never will.
He is in line with a ton of very average NFL QB’s over the years.
Decision making is suspect
No killer instinct
Doesn’t really throw players open.
Injury risk
Running team.
Could he turn it around, sure but this is his last year to prove it.
Much risk with this player.
He has the look of an above average back up
A broken clock is right twice in 24 hours. Go look at all his other games and report back.
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QB- D.Prescott, M.Stafford, T.Lance
RB- N.Chubb, J.Mixon, K.Hunt, A.Gibson, D.Harris, T.Sermon, M.Davis, T.Williams
WR- AJ.Brown, S.Diggs, C.Ridley, C.Godwin, O.Beckham, A.Robinson, J.Reagor, C.Claypool, R.Bateman
TE- M.Andrews, L.Thomas
2022 Draft Picks- 1, 3, 4, 4, 5
2021 est. 10 team (22 Keepers), 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex (.5 PPR)
Satan's Alley
QB- D.Watson, T.Lawrence
RB- C.Edwards-Helaire, J.Jacobs, M.Carter, T.Pollard, T.Sermon, D.Williams
WR- AJ.Brown, D.Adams, M.Thomas, B.Aiyuk, C.Sutton, T.Marshall, R.Moore, M.Callaway, C.Beasley
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Re: Thoughts On Mariota??
Thank you! Some common sense is always refreshing.OhCruelestRanter wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:30 am Imagine still making fantasy football decisions on whether or not you think a player has “killer instinct” in 2019.
Mariota has been a QB2 each of the last 3 years, but has a QB3 ADP. He has the best receiving options of his career. He’s an easy buy low in Superflex startups.
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