Kamara for DJ+?

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Kamara for DJ+?

Postby Z$$$ » Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:03 pm

Team 2 in sig.

What added to DJ would get Kamara?

The Kamara owner is weak at TE so I thought about adding H. Henry but didn’t know if that would be enough. His team is a middle of the pack team so the similar RB production and a better TE could help him make the playoffs.

My thinking is I’m looking to cash in on DJ before he gets too old and get younger in the process. I also have a few young WRs (Davis, Pettis, Kirk) to pair with Henry if needed or 2 in place of Henry.

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10 Team PPR: 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Ryan, Allen, Jimmy G
RB: CMC, Taylor, Singletary, Harris, Evans, Perine
WR: Adams, Sutton, Kupp, Cooks, Hardman, Crowder, Peoples-Jones
TE: Hockenson, Goedert, Gesicki, Hurst
2021 Picks: 1st, 3rd

12 Team PPR/IDP: 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Ryan, Lock
RB: CMC, Taylor, Sanders, Singletary, Dillon
WR: Adams, JuJu, DJM, Ridley, Sutton, Mims
TE: Kittle, Andrews, Goedert
D: S. Thompson, L. David, D. White, P. Queen
2021 Picks: 1st, 1st, 3rd

16 Team .5 PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Cousins, Haskins
RB: Singletary, Sanders, Dallas, D Freeman, Samuels
WR: DJM, Godwin, Jeudy, Hardman, Ross, Coutee
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Re: Kamara for DJ+?

Postby Gator Sens » Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:31 pm

Johnson + Davis and a 1st may get it done?? Kamara is a top tier asset so it's hard to day what it would take depending on an owner. I personally just wont move him.

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Re: Kamara for DJ+?

Postby Z$$$ » Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:36 pm

Gator Sens wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:31 pm
Johnson + Davis and a 1st may get it done?? Kamara is a top tier asset so it's hard to day what it would take depending on an owner. I personally just wont move him.
My first is 1.11. Would DJ, Davis and Henry be better than DJ, Davis and 1.11?
10 Team PPR: 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Ryan, Allen, Jimmy G
RB: CMC, Taylor, Singletary, Harris, Evans, Perine
WR: Adams, Sutton, Kupp, Cooks, Hardman, Crowder, Peoples-Jones
TE: Hockenson, Goedert, Gesicki, Hurst
2021 Picks: 1st, 3rd

12 Team PPR/IDP: 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Ryan, Lock
RB: CMC, Taylor, Sanders, Singletary, Dillon
WR: Adams, JuJu, DJM, Ridley, Sutton, Mims
TE: Kittle, Andrews, Goedert
D: S. Thompson, L. David, D. White, P. Queen
2021 Picks: 1st, 1st, 3rd

16 Team .5 PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Cousins, Haskins
RB: Singletary, Sanders, Dallas, D Freeman, Samuels
WR: DJM, Godwin, Jeudy, Hardman, Ross, Coutee
TE: Hurst, Albert O, Oliver, Akins
2021 Picks: 2x 1st

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Re: Kamara for DJ+?

Postby Phaded » Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:50 pm

As a Kamara owner - I would have no interest in downgrading to DJ unless something substantial was added.
Those pieces are not substantial.

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Re: Kamara for DJ+?

Postby Z$$$ » Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:02 pm

Phaded wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:50 pm
As a Kamara owner - I would have no interest in downgrading to DJ unless something substantial was added.
Those pieces are not substantial.
Good to know. That’s why I’m asking first. Was hoping some Kamara owners would chime in
10 Team PPR: 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Ryan, Allen, Jimmy G
RB: CMC, Taylor, Singletary, Harris, Evans, Perine
WR: Adams, Sutton, Kupp, Cooks, Hardman, Crowder, Peoples-Jones
TE: Hockenson, Goedert, Gesicki, Hurst
2021 Picks: 1st, 3rd

12 Team PPR/IDP: 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Ryan, Lock
RB: CMC, Taylor, Sanders, Singletary, Dillon
WR: Adams, JuJu, DJM, Ridley, Sutton, Mims
TE: Kittle, Andrews, Goedert
D: S. Thompson, L. David, D. White, P. Queen
2021 Picks: 1st, 1st, 3rd

16 Team .5 PPR 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Cousins, Haskins
RB: Singletary, Sanders, Dallas, D Freeman, Samuels
WR: DJM, Godwin, Jeudy, Hardman, Ross, Coutee
TE: Hurst, Albert O, Oliver, Akins
2021 Picks: 2x 1st

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Re: Kamara for DJ+?

Postby Jifhduke » Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:10 pm

As a Kamara owner I would want DJ, Kittle, Ridley and your 1st.
8 teams 50 player roster with a 7 player taxi squad: PPR

QBs: Wentz, Winston, Prescott, Drew Lock, L Jackson, Tannehill, Hurtz

RBs, Cook, Kamara, Chubb, Kerryon Johnson, R Jones, Edmonds, Swift, Dillon, Drake, Robinson, Dillon

WR: Mike Evens, Michael Thomas, Woods, M Williams, T Boyd, C Godwin, A Miller, Antonio Brown, Parris Campbell, Sutton, Lamb, Higgins, J Jefferson, Fulgham

TE: Ebron, Everette, Higbee, Jarwin, Goedert, Fant, Hockerson, Kelce,

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Re: Kamara for DJ+?

Postby Kmani6 » Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:40 pm

^ and that’s exactly why you don’t buy kamara now- some owners are crazy. kittle is going to be Kelce value by next year he just broke the receiving TE record and is like 25, there’s arguably no player right now that’s worth David Johnson, Kittle+. It’s probably the worst time to buy guys like CMC Saquon or Kamara right now. I would 100 percent try to target Mixon, Chubb, or Dalvin Cook and I bet you’d have a much better time moving DJ for them.
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10 Man, Full PPR, .2 PPC, Double Flex

QB: Dak Prescott
RB: Joe Mixon, Nick Chubb, Dalvin Cook, CEH, Sanders
WR: Devante Adams, Mike Evans, , Tyreek Hill, Mclaurin, Denzel Mims
TE: Travis Kelce,Dallas Goedert

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16 Team, SuperFlex, PPR, .25 PPC

QB: Rodgers, Big Ben, Winston, Trubisky,
RB: Cook, Mixon,Ingram, Murray, Coleman, Hyde, Miller, Duke Johnson
WR: Golladay,A.J. Green, Landry, Shepard, Sanders, Tate, Westbrook, Fitzgerald
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Re: Kamara for DJ+?

Postby NFL-ons » Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:52 pm

Jifhduke wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:10 pm
As a Kamara owner I would want DJ, Kittle, Ridley and your 1st.
Me too

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Re: Kamara for DJ+?

Postby ChefHerbie » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:00 pm

Kmani6 wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:40 pm
^ and that’s exactly why you don’t buy kamara now- some owners are crazy. kittle is going to be Kelce value by next year he just broke the receiving TE record and is like 25, there’s arguably no player right now that’s worth David Johnson, Kittle+. It’s probably the worst time to buy guys like CMC Saquon or Kamara right now. I would 100 percent try to target Mixon, Chubb, or Dalvin Cook and I bet you’d have a much better time moving DJ for them.
I agree with your overall sentiment, but Kittle isn’t reaching Kelce levels. That offense is nothing like KC, and Kittle had the advantage of an incredibly depleted offense. Pettis and Goodwin missed 12 games combined, no McKinnon, and Breida playing hurt. Now you get those guys back and add Deebo, Coleman, and Hurd.

Having Jimmy GQ will help, but there are a heck of a lot more mouths to feed in SF this season.
Team 1 - 10 Team PPR - 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 2FLEX

QBs: Wentz, Big Ben, Darnold, Murray, Bridgewater
RBs: Chubb, Mack, L. Miller, Monty, Foreman, Henderson, Ballage, Armstead, R. Anderson
WRs: OBJ, K. Allen, Cooks, ARob, Z. Jones, Chark, K. White, D. Robinson, McLaurin
TE: Howard, Njoku, Reed

Picks:
2020: 1-4
2021: 1-4
2022: 1-4

Team 2 - 10 Team PPR SF - QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 1SF

QBs: Mayfield, Watson, Jimmy GQ, Grier
RBs: Barkley, Sony, Lewis, D. Thompson, Love
WRs: Thomas, OBJ, AB, Kupp, ARob, C. Ridley, Alshon, MVS, Chark, Gordon, McLaurin, Quinn
TE: Burton, Walker

Picks:
2020: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3
2021: 1, 3
2022: 1-3

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QBs: Watson, Wilson, Mayfield, Murray, Grier
RBs: Ballage, Henderson, Hunt, Hill, Armstead, Anderson, Williams, Thompson, Crockett
WRs: Nuk, Evans, Cooper, Cooks, Samuel, Butler, Chark, Quinn, Robinson, D. Johnson, Morgan Jr.
TEs: Fant, Dissly, Goedert

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2020: 1-4
2021: 1-4
2022: 1-4

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Re: Kamara for DJ+?

Postby HughHoney » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:25 pm

NFL-ons wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:52 pm
Jifhduke wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:10 pm
As a Kamara owner I would want DJ, Kittle, Ridley and your 1st.
Me too
As an owner of all those pieces I’d want that too but that’s too much and don’t see anyone parting with that much. That’s like 6-8 1sts for Kamara.
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QB: Wilson, Minshew, Brissett
RB: Kamara, CEH, Gordon, Hines, Samuels, Gio, Love, C Edmonds
WR: OBJ, Kupp, Deebo Samuel, Reagor, Mike Williams, Mims, Watkins, Diontae Johnson, Devernay, Boykin, K Harmon, Pettis, Coutee, J Meyers, Peoples-Jones
TE: Kittle, Hurst
DEF: CAR
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Re: Kamara for DJ+?

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:40 pm

NFL-ons wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:52 pm
Jifhduke wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:10 pm
As a Kamara owner I would want DJ, Kittle, Ridley and your 1st.
Me too
Assuming these are jokes. If they aren't, you guys are bonkers. You can want that, but he's not worth that value, or even close to it.

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Re: Kamara for DJ+?

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:42 pm

ChefHerbie wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:00 pm
Kmani6 wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 5:40 pm
^ and that’s exactly why you don’t buy kamara now- some owners are crazy. kittle is going to be Kelce value by next year he just broke the receiving TE record and is like 25, there’s arguably no player right now that’s worth David Johnson, Kittle+. It’s probably the worst time to buy guys like CMC Saquon or Kamara right now. I would 100 percent try to target Mixon, Chubb, or Dalvin Cook and I bet you’d have a much better time moving DJ for them.
I agree with your overall sentiment, but Kittle isn’t reaching Kelce levels. That offense is nothing like KC, and Kittle had the advantage of an incredibly depleted offense. Pettis and Goodwin missed 12 games combined, no McKinnon, and Breida playing hurt. Now you get those guys back and add Deebo, Coleman, and Hurd.

Having Jimmy GQ will help, but there are a heck of a lot more mouths to feed in SF this season.
Kittle is 25, Kelce is almost 29, and Pettis, Deebo etc. don't compare to Watkins and Hill (when available). Kittle is still the main mouth. I wouldn't give Kittle away for Kelce in Dynasty, the age gap is too substantial for the moderate production increase, that isn't even guaranteed.

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Re: Kamara for DJ+?

Postby Gator Sens » Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:58 pm

Z$$$ wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:36 pm
Gator Sens wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:31 pm
Johnson + Davis and a 1st may get it done?? Kamara is a top tier asset so it's hard to day what it would take depending on an owner. I personally just wont move him.
My first is 1.11. Would DJ, Davis and Henry be better than DJ, Davis and 1.11?
As you can see from the other posts, its probably not enough. You could throw it out there to the Kamara owner and see where it goes. The worst that could happen is a no.

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Re: Kamara for DJ+?

Postby Kmani6 » Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:38 pm

Yup the Point was that kittle is actually good unlike some of the guys that were mentioned I.e. Coleman And Hurd. They just won’t take away from kittle production in the least bit. And overall my point was really about value. Next year if kittle can maintain similar numbers he’ll be a 26 year old TE in his prime in a weak position To begin with. Add that to the fact that Kelce and ertz are 1 more year older and we’re looking at a ridiculous dynasty piece, value wise.
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10 Man, Full PPR, .2 PPC, Double Flex

QB: Dak Prescott
RB: Joe Mixon, Nick Chubb, Dalvin Cook, CEH, Sanders
WR: Devante Adams, Mike Evans, , Tyreek Hill, Mclaurin, Denzel Mims
TE: Travis Kelce,Dallas Goedert

Dynasty Team 2:

16 Team, SuperFlex, PPR, .25 PPC

QB: Rodgers, Big Ben, Winston, Trubisky,
RB: Cook, Mixon,Ingram, Murray, Coleman, Hyde, Miller, Duke Johnson
WR: Golladay,A.J. Green, Landry, Shepard, Sanders, Tate, Westbrook, Fitzgerald
TE: Engram, Rudolph, Doyle

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Re: Kamara for DJ+?

Postby Kmani6 » Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:41 pm

Ultimately the DJ, Kittle, Ridley and a 2020 1st comes out to exactly as said before somewhere around 6-8 first round picks. I wouldn’t pay that for Literally any dynasty player ever. From a value standpoint you could do so much more with it. Like I said I would start by either paying a small price on DJ to grab mixon or Chubb or even selling DJ ago grab Dalvin plus. I could see all three of those guys having kamara like value next season, although admittedly not as high, but still. Kittle is a piece I think you just build around and don’t touch ever just with how the TE landscape is looking in the next few years, and Ridley and the 2020 first are going to turn into a great WR/RB combo as well.
Dynasty Team 1:

10 Man, Full PPR, .2 PPC, Double Flex

QB: Dak Prescott
RB: Joe Mixon, Nick Chubb, Dalvin Cook, CEH, Sanders
WR: Devante Adams, Mike Evans, , Tyreek Hill, Mclaurin, Denzel Mims
TE: Travis Kelce,Dallas Goedert

Dynasty Team 2:

16 Team, SuperFlex, PPR, .25 PPC

QB: Rodgers, Big Ben, Winston, Trubisky,
RB: Cook, Mixon,Ingram, Murray, Coleman, Hyde, Miller, Duke Johnson
WR: Golladay,A.J. Green, Landry, Shepard, Sanders, Tate, Westbrook, Fitzgerald
TE: Engram, Rudolph, Doyle


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