Zeke/Wentz for Barkley/Darnold
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Zeke/Wentz for Barkley/Darnold
Superflex.
Would like some thoughts on this trade.
Would like some thoughts on this trade.
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QB - J. Hurts, M. Stafford, K. Cousins
RB - S. Barkley, D. Cook, E. Elliot, T. Pollard, A. Mattison
WR - D. Adams, DK Metcalf, A. Cooper, C. Ridley, R. Anderson, C. Davis, J. Jones
TE - M. Andrews, G. Kittle, M. Cox
QB - J. Hurts, M. Stafford, K. Cousins
RB - S. Barkley, D. Cook, E. Elliot, T. Pollard, A. Mattison
WR - D. Adams, DK Metcalf, A. Cooper, C. Ridley, R. Anderson, C. Davis, J. Jones
TE - M. Andrews, G. Kittle, M. Cox
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Re: Zeke/Wentz for Barkley/Darnold
barkley side, better than zeke, younger, and i like darnold.
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Re: Zeke/Wentz for Barkley/Darnold
Barkley side. Take the younger RB with similar if not a better skill set.
Re: Zeke/Wentz for Barkley/Darnold
Zeke/Wentz for me. Zeke and Barkley are pretty similar to me. I'd rather Barkley due to Zeke's boneheadedness, but Zeke has the better team situation imo.
Wentz is a few levels above Darnold. I think Darnold will improve a lot this year, but Wentz has had two injury shortened seasons. I think if he can stay healthy he's a top QB.
Wentz is a few levels above Darnold. I think Darnold will improve a lot this year, but Wentz has had two injury shortened seasons. I think if he can stay healthy he's a top QB.
Team #1: 2nd place
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE
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Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Team #4 3rd
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12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,2F,1D,1K
Q: Kyler, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
T: Kelce, Goedert
D: nyj
K: Sanders
Team #2: back to back champion
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson
R: Swift, Walker, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE
Team #3: back to back champion
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Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
Team #4 3rd
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Team #5 4th
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Re: Zeke/Wentz for Barkley/Darnold
Barkley >= Zeke
Wentz >> Darnold
Don't overpay for a slight RB upgrade, if that. While Barkley is younger and has fewer off-field concerns, it's very possible that Zeke could even out-produce him in fantasy in the next couple of seasons. And while I like Darnold, Wentz is a proven MVP-level QB when healthy. I'd need at least an early 1st added to the Darnold side to consider this trade in superflex.
Wentz >> Darnold
Don't overpay for a slight RB upgrade, if that. While Barkley is younger and has fewer off-field concerns, it's very possible that Zeke could even out-produce him in fantasy in the next couple of seasons. And while I like Darnold, Wentz is a proven MVP-level QB when healthy. I'd need at least an early 1st added to the Darnold side to consider this trade in superflex.
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RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
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RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
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Re: Zeke/Wentz for Barkley/Darnold
the value gap between Zeke and Barkley doesn’t not close the gap between Wentz and Darnold.
Gimme the Wentz side.
Gimme the Wentz side.
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Re: Zeke/Wentz for Barkley/Darnold
zeke wentz but i prob wouldnt be doing this deal (if im zeke wentz owner im not worried enough about zeke to downgrade from wentz to darnold and if im barkley darnold owner i prob dont care enough about upgrading from darnold to wentz, and his recent health issues, to give up barkely and take on the headache of zeke every offseason. )
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
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Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
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Re: Zeke/Wentz for Barkley/Darnold
Thanks everyone who chimed in so far. These are my exact thoughts. Any other opinions?BigBawseRoss wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:49 am zeke wentz but i prob wouldnt be doing this deal (if im zeke wentz owner im not worried enough about zeke to downgrade from wentz to darnold and if im barkley darnold owner i prob dont care enough about upgrading from darnold to wentz, and his recent health issues, to give up barkely and take on the headache of zeke every offseason. )
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QB - J. Hurts, M. Stafford, K. Cousins
RB - S. Barkley, D. Cook, E. Elliot, T. Pollard, A. Mattison
WR - D. Adams, DK Metcalf, A. Cooper, C. Ridley, R. Anderson, C. Davis, J. Jones
TE - M. Andrews, G. Kittle, M. Cox
QB - J. Hurts, M. Stafford, K. Cousins
RB - S. Barkley, D. Cook, E. Elliot, T. Pollard, A. Mattison
WR - D. Adams, DK Metcalf, A. Cooper, C. Ridley, R. Anderson, C. Davis, J. Jones
TE - M. Andrews, G. Kittle, M. Cox
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Re: Zeke/Wentz for Barkley/Darnold
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12 Team (2014 Champ, 2016 2nd, 2021 Champ) 1.0 PPR, 1.5 TE, Superflex, Start 9, 1-2 QB, 2-4 RB, 3-4 WR, 1-3 TE
QB - J. Hurts, M. Stafford, K. Cousins
RB - S. Barkley, D. Cook, E. Elliot, T. Pollard, A. Mattison
WR - D. Adams, DK Metcalf, A. Cooper, C. Ridley, R. Anderson, C. Davis, J. Jones
TE - M. Andrews, G. Kittle, M. Cox
QB - J. Hurts, M. Stafford, K. Cousins
RB - S. Barkley, D. Cook, E. Elliot, T. Pollard, A. Mattison
WR - D. Adams, DK Metcalf, A. Cooper, C. Ridley, R. Anderson, C. Davis, J. Jones
TE - M. Andrews, G. Kittle, M. Cox
Re: Zeke/Wentz for Barkley/Darnold
WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:28 am Barkley >= Zeke
Wentz >> Darnold
Don't overpay for a slight RB upgrade, if that. While Barkley is younger and has fewer off-field concerns, it's very possible that Zeke could even out-produce him in fantasy in the next couple of seasons. And while I like Darnold, Wentz is a proven MVP-level QB when healthy. I'd need at least an early 1st added to the Darnold side to consider this trade in superflex.
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Re: Zeke/Wentz for Barkley/Darnold
I just don't trust Darnold yet.
Re: Zeke/Wentz for Barkley/Darnold
I would go Barkley and Darnold, because barkley’s Barkley and I do have concerns with Wentz’s health and like Darnold’s upside
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QB: Purdy, ARich (TS), Levis (TS), Bagent, Hall, Rudolph, Fromm
RB: Roschon (TS), Allgeier, Hill, Demercado, McLaughlin, Mitchell, K. Harris, E. Wilson
WR: Addison, London, Jmo, Shaheed, Reed (TS), Pop D, Iosivas, C. Jones, Mooney, T. Palmer, Scott, Tucker, Austin, Gipson, Melton,
TE: Musgrave, Mayer (TS), Trautman, Gray, Jordan
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Re: Zeke/Wentz for Barkley/Darnold
Zeke/Wentz
The difference between Zeke and Barkley is not enough to close the gap between Wentz and Darnold. In fact, Elliott could be the best asset in this deal any given year. Wentz was the likely MVP two years ago before the injury. His ceiling is high. Superflex makes this an easy decision for me.
The difference between Zeke and Barkley is not enough to close the gap between Wentz and Darnold. In fact, Elliott could be the best asset in this deal any given year. Wentz was the likely MVP two years ago before the injury. His ceiling is high. Superflex makes this an easy decision for me.
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Re: Zeke/Wentz for Barkley/Darnold
I agree with pretty much everything above ^bigbuck22 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 8:51 pm Zeke/Wentz
The difference between Zeke and Barkley is not enough to close the gap between Wentz and Darnold. In fact, Elliott could be the best asset in this deal any given year. Wentz was the likely MVP two years ago before the injury. His ceiling is high. Superflex makes this an easy decision for me.
Zeke/Wentz side given it's a Super Flex league
FFPC $2500 #6 ~ 12 team PPR/QB/TE1.5
QB: Josh Allen
RB: CMC, Zeke, Spears, Mattison, Justice Hill
WR: Kupp, Tyreek, Diggs, DSmith, MWilliams
TE: Andrews, Ferguson
FFPC $2500 #5 ~ 12 team PPR/QB/TE1.5 (2021 Champ)
QB: Josh Allen
RB: CMC, Jacobs, Ekeler, Monty, Achane,
WR: Kupp, Pittman, Amari, Ridley, Lockett
TE: Andrews, Ferguson
FFPC $750 #46 ~ 12 team PPR/QB/TE1.5
QB: Mahomes
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, Saquon, Kyren, Javonte
WR: Tyreek, Kupp, Waddle, Wan'Dale
TE: Hock, LaPorta
QB: Josh Allen
RB: CMC, Zeke, Spears, Mattison, Justice Hill
WR: Kupp, Tyreek, Diggs, DSmith, MWilliams
TE: Andrews, Ferguson
FFPC $2500 #5 ~ 12 team PPR/QB/TE1.5 (2021 Champ)
QB: Josh Allen
RB: CMC, Jacobs, Ekeler, Monty, Achane,
WR: Kupp, Pittman, Amari, Ridley, Lockett
TE: Andrews, Ferguson
FFPC $750 #46 ~ 12 team PPR/QB/TE1.5
QB: Mahomes
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, Saquon, Kyren, Javonte
WR: Tyreek, Kupp, Waddle, Wan'Dale
TE: Hock, LaPorta
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Re: Zeke/Wentz for Barkley/Darnold
This question is a three step process to answer.
1. Productivity-all expected to be productive to an extent. Darnold has most to prove but has most likely to be most productive included with him. (Barkley) zeke and wentz are comparable overall. zeke already 3 years of top of the league carries. Probably top per game every year. Wentz should be high end QB1 if healthy all yea Saquan losing Beckham coverage and possibly rookie QB situation this season is slightly a knock on his situation. Darnold I expect to put up similar number from last year. Maybe couple more TDs
2. Age- zeke 3 years of tread on them wheels, saquan 1. Wentz already suspect of career threatening injuries last year. The relief was the massive contract extension. Obviously they are comfortable with him. Darnold was top 5 pick and super young.
3. Durability. Only wentz has shown a durability issue. Take it with a grain of salt on that extension though. He obviously is in line to be healthy and ready to roll. Bet he runs out of bounds more and gives himself up before taking hits more now.
1. Productivity-all expected to be productive to an extent. Darnold has most to prove but has most likely to be most productive included with him. (Barkley) zeke and wentz are comparable overall. zeke already 3 years of top of the league carries. Probably top per game every year. Wentz should be high end QB1 if healthy all yea Saquan losing Beckham coverage and possibly rookie QB situation this season is slightly a knock on his situation. Darnold I expect to put up similar number from last year. Maybe couple more TDs
2. Age- zeke 3 years of tread on them wheels, saquan 1. Wentz already suspect of career threatening injuries last year. The relief was the massive contract extension. Obviously they are comfortable with him. Darnold was top 5 pick and super young.
3. Durability. Only wentz has shown a durability issue. Take it with a grain of salt on that extension though. He obviously is in line to be healthy and ready to roll. Bet he runs out of bounds more and gives himself up before taking hits more now.
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