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Re: Most talented undrafted player

Postby Flatlander19 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:43 pm

Preston Williams for me as well. No one in Miami standing in his way except himself
Team 1
12 team PPR 1QB, 2RB,3WR,1TE, flex
QB Garoppollo, Haskins
RB Barkley, Mack, Ingram,T Coleman, Justice Hill, Wilkins, Gallman,E Benjamin
WR Mclaurin, Sutton, Hardman, Preston Williams, P Campbell, Reagor, Jeffrey, Trent Taylor
TE Kittle, Walker, Tonyan, I Thomas
Team 2
10 team Half PPR 1QB, 2 RB, 3WR, 2 Flex, 1 TE
QB J Allen, Mayfield
RB Zeke, Jacobs, CEH, Drake, Rojo, Penny, Evans
WR Evans, DJ Moore, Mclaurin, Davis, Fuller, Campbell, P Williams, T Higgins, Edwards
TE Engram, Hockenson, Hurst
Team 3
10 team Non PPR 1QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1Flex, 1TE, 1 K, 1Def
QB Wilson, Brees, Garropolo
RB Mixon, Sanders, Conner, A Jones, Coleman, Armstead, Pollard
WR M Thomas, Golladay, DJ Moore, Beckham, AJ Brown, Jeudy, Ruggs, Mims, Davis
TE Kittle, Gesicki, Jarwin, Howard
K Fairbairn
DEF Chargers

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Re: Most talented undrafted player

Postby Johnny B. Goode » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:06 pm

Bot101 wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:13 pm
What about these undrafted RBs that are an injury away from relevancy: Devine Ozigbo, Alex Barnes
This. my top 2 targets following my draft
12 team PPR, 1QB, No negative points, all TDs 6
QB: Murray, Lock, Stidham, Hurts, Winston
RB: Barkley, Zeke, Mixon, J. Taylor, Dobbins
WR: T. Hill, Godwin, Kupp, Sutton, Diggs, Gallup, P. Williams, Isabella, JJAW, Higgins, S Miller, Proche
TE: Engram, Hockenson, Arnold, Trautman
K: Tucker
TD: PIT
Picks: 2021 1, 2021 2, 2021 3, 2022 1, 2022 2, 2022 3

12 team PPR 1QB
QB: Brady, Darnold, Bridgewater, Lock (TS), Stidham (TS)
RB: Sanders, Hunt, Edmonds, Taylor, Dobbins (TS)
WR: Diggs, Gallup, Kupp, Sutton, G. Tate, Guyton, P. Williams (TS), JJAW (TS), Isabella (TS), S. Miller (TS), Higgins (TS)
TE: Jarwin, I Smith, Arnold, Trautman (TS)
K: Succop
DEF: Streaming
Picks: 2021 1, 2021 2, 2021 3, 2021 3, All 2022 picks

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Re: Most talented undrafted player

Postby TheNuts » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:25 pm

FantasyFreak wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:30 pm
Phaded wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:29 pm
FantasyFreak wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:28 pm


Yet teams still passed on him in the 7th round? That makes no sense. Somebody might have had him as a 3rd round grade, but it wasn't an NFL GM.
I believe he is referring to the NFL.com rankings.
Right. So I guess they were way off, then. It happens. Can't get them all right.
Talent wise some had him as a third rounder. Just because someone goes undrafted, it doesn't mean they are an undrafted level talent. I thought he looked pretty promising in college. He has a cannon and can run. His accuracy isn't the greatest, but he also played for a lesser team.
12 team ppr 4 point pass td

Murray, Minshew
Singletary, Lindsay, Samuels, Ty Johnson
Chark, Arob, Woods, Diontae, Nkeal, Lazard, Conley, Cole, Dorsett
Higbee, Jarwin, Dissly
Gould, Patriots

14 team ppr superflex, .2 ppc, WR 25% ppr bonus, TE ppr bonus 75%

Mayfield, Minshew, Trubisky, Foles, Hill
Djohns, Singletary, Fournette, Harris, Armstead, Ogunbawale, Samuels
Julio, Arob, Woods, Sims Jr, Claypool, Duvernay, Isabella, Conley, Tyrell
Waller, Hurst, Jarwin, Boyle

12 team ppr 4 point pass td, superflex, 1.5 TE ppr

Goff, Minshew, Hill, Alllen, Walker
Chubb, Taylor, Henry, Singletary, David Johnson, Damien Harris, Hyde, Boone, Blasingame
Tyreek, Boyd, Diontae, Marvin Jones, Pittman, Nkeal, Duvernay, Sims Jr, Stills
Waller, Higbee, Arnold, Olsen, Parkinson, Sample

20 team ppr 6 point pass td, .05 point per return yard

Matt Ryan
Fournette, Singletary, Harris, Cohen, Duke Johnson, Trey Edmunds
Davante Adams, Tyreek, Sutton, Boyd, Dorsett, Tyrell
Kittle, Jarwin, Oliver

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Re: Most talented undrafted player

Postby dmac37 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:40 pm

Bruce Anderson- not sure he is the most talented but seems like he has enough to surprise and in a great situation for a shot as the Rb 1 in Tampa
12 Team PPR Scoring:
QB: Rodgers, Mayfield
RB: Sanders, A. Jones, Hunt, J. Kelley, Freeman, B. Scott, J. Jackson, Gore
WR:M. Thomas, OBJ, K. Allen, Ridley, Pittman, B. Edwards Watkins, Coutee, Isabella, S. Sims
TE: Hockenson, Herndon, I. Thomas,
PK:
DST: Ravens

12 Team Superflex PPR Scoring:
QB: Wentz, Rodgers, Tua , Foles, T. Hill
RB: A. Jones, Hunt, Montgomery, J. Kelley, McKinnon, D. Evans, Penny, J. Williams
WR: Godwin, Ridley, A Robinson, Diontae Johnson, Sutton, Pittman, Mooney, Isabella, Jeffrey, John Brown, G Davis
TE: Henry L. Thomas

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Re: Most talented undrafted player

Postby sloth8u » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:57 pm

dmac37 wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:40 pm
Bruce Anderson- not sure he is the most talented but seems like he has enough to surprise and in a great situation for a shot as the Rb 1 in Tampa
I was going to mention him. Would seem that very little stands in his way. Not sure if the community is down on him, not aware of him, or wants keep quiet so they can get him...

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Re: Most talented undrafted player

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:58 pm

TheNuts wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:25 pm
FantasyFreak wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:30 pm
Phaded wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:29 pm


I believe he is referring to the NFL.com rankings.
Right. So I guess they were way off, then. It happens. Can't get them all right.
Talent wise some had him as a third rounder. Just because someone goes undrafted, it doesn't mean they are an undrafted level talent. I thought he looked pretty promising in college. He has a cannon and can run. His accuracy isn't the greatest, but he also played for a lesser team.
Who? Not any NFL team, that was my point. If a guy is a 3rd round grade on NFL teams boards, he's not going undrafted. Teams aren't drafting for need in the 7th round and passing on a guy that has a 3rd round grade on their board. Maybe some analysts had him as a 3rd round grade, but I don't believe for a second that any NFL team had a draft board with his name on it as a third round grade. There is no way a guy goes undrafted if teams have a 3rd round grade on a player, unless there are massive character or injury red flags that cause teams to pass on him.

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Re: Most talented undrafted player

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Re: Most talented undrafted player

Postby Cult of Dionysus » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:11 am

Elijah "The Real Deal" Holyfield.

I own him in all 3 of my leagues, iirc. Love his tape, his grittiness and his pedigree (both as a Georgia RB and a son of Evander Holyfied). I also actually like the landing spot, in Carolina. CMC is the clear #1 there, but I doubt the Panthers will keep feeding him the ball, when a lot of other teams (who are contending for championships) are dialing back some of their star RBs (Rams, Denver, etc.). Why waste all that talent to pound the ball for 3-5 yards when you can use another (cheaper) dude to do it. Would love to see Carolina get creative and use CMC and EH on the field at the same time, with CMC sometimes in the back field and sometimes slipping out into the slot or anywhere else they can draw it up.

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Re: Most talented undrafted player

Postby Orenthal Shames » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:56 am

Solid post and agree with everything stated so far. I loaded the back end of my roster with these types of cheap pickups after our rookie draft.

I'm stashing:

Preston Williams, Morgan Stanley, Emmanuel Hall, Elijah Holyfield.

The other guy I'm stashing that fits this category is Emmanuel Butler. Elite college domimator, YPR and Breakout age. He ran a 4.53 at 6'3 217lbs.
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 man rosters - full point ppr
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QB: Tannehill, Brees
RB: Kamara, CMC, Sanders, Davis, Murray, Scott
WR: Julio, Hill, KA, Hamler
TE: Kelce, Kittle

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Re: Most talented undrafted player

Postby TheNuts » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:41 am

FantasyFreak wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:58 pm
TheNuts wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:25 pm
FantasyFreak wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:30 pm


Right. So I guess they were way off, then. It happens. Can't get them all right.
Talent wise some had him as a third rounder. Just because someone goes undrafted, it doesn't mean they are an undrafted level talent. I thought he looked pretty promising in college. He has a cannon and can run. His accuracy isn't the greatest, but he also played for a lesser team.
Who? Not any NFL team, that was my point. If a guy is a 3rd round grade on NFL teams boards, he's not going undrafted. Teams aren't drafting for need in the 7th round and passing on a guy that has a 3rd round grade on their board. Maybe some analysts had him as a 3rd round grade, but I don't believe for a second that any NFL team had a draft board with his name on it as a third round grade. There is no way a guy goes undrafted if teams have a 3rd round grade on a player, unless there are massive character or injury red flags that cause teams to pass on him.
Still, Jackson and those around him always assumed that entry point would be as a draft pick, as high as a third-rounder, according to some projections.

https://buffalonews.com/2019/05/08/buff ... ball-2019/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/ftw.usatod ... leeper/amp


https://football.thedzone.com/news/tyre ... ball-story


Some people, like I said, had him as a third round grade. He was obviously pretty sure he was a draft pick from the research he did. I thought the guy was going to be drafted. As a runner, he is pretty talented.
12 team ppr 4 point pass td

Murray, Minshew
Singletary, Lindsay, Samuels, Ty Johnson
Chark, Arob, Woods, Diontae, Nkeal, Lazard, Conley, Cole, Dorsett
Higbee, Jarwin, Dissly
Gould, Patriots

14 team ppr superflex, .2 ppc, WR 25% ppr bonus, TE ppr bonus 75%

Mayfield, Minshew, Trubisky, Foles, Hill
Djohns, Singletary, Fournette, Harris, Armstead, Ogunbawale, Samuels
Julio, Arob, Woods, Sims Jr, Claypool, Duvernay, Isabella, Conley, Tyrell
Waller, Hurst, Jarwin, Boyle

12 team ppr 4 point pass td, superflex, 1.5 TE ppr

Goff, Minshew, Hill, Alllen, Walker
Chubb, Taylor, Henry, Singletary, David Johnson, Damien Harris, Hyde, Boone, Blasingame
Tyreek, Boyd, Diontae, Marvin Jones, Pittman, Nkeal, Duvernay, Sims Jr, Stills
Waller, Higbee, Arnold, Olsen, Parkinson, Sample

20 team ppr 6 point pass td, .05 point per return yard

Matt Ryan
Fournette, Singletary, Harris, Cohen, Duke Johnson, Trey Edmunds
Davante Adams, Tyreek, Sutton, Boyd, Dorsett, Tyrell
Kittle, Jarwin, Oliver

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Re: Most talented undrafted player

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:15 am

TheNuts wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:41 am
FantasyFreak wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:58 pm
TheNuts wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:25 pm


Talent wise some had him as a third rounder. Just because someone goes undrafted, it doesn't mean they are an undrafted level talent. I thought he looked pretty promising in college. He has a cannon and can run. His accuracy isn't the greatest, but he also played for a lesser team.
Who? Not any NFL team, that was my point. If a guy is a 3rd round grade on NFL teams boards, he's not going undrafted. Teams aren't drafting for need in the 7th round and passing on a guy that has a 3rd round grade on their board. Maybe some analysts had him as a 3rd round grade, but I don't believe for a second that any NFL team had a draft board with his name on it as a third round grade. There is no way a guy goes undrafted if teams have a 3rd round grade on a player, unless there are massive character or injury red flags that cause teams to pass on him.
Still, Jackson and those around him always assumed that entry point would be as a draft pick, as high as a third-rounder, according to some projections.

https://buffalonews.com/2019/05/08/buff ... ball-2019/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/ftw.usatod ... leeper/amp


https://football.thedzone.com/news/tyre ... ball-story


Some people, like I said, had him as a third round grade. He was obviously pretty sure he was a draft pick from the research he did. I thought the guy was going to be drafted. As a runner, he is pretty talented.
Cool. That's fine. My only point was it clearly wasn't the NFL that did. These people clearly had him viewed differently to the NFL. I'm not saying you are wrong. I'm saying these people graded him differently than the NFL did.

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Re: Most talented undrafted player

Postby Prison_Mike » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:49 am

Chwf3rd wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:12 pm

Another guy I like who nobody's really talking about is Jalin Moore, RB from Appaplachian State, who signed with the Jets.
Had never heard of this guy.
Just went and watched a quick highlight tape. Holy shite he looks solid
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Start: 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 3FLX
QB: Dak, Stafford, Fitzpatrick
RB: Saquon, Sanders, Drake, Mostert, Coleman, Pollard, Penny, Wilson
WR: Hopkins, OBJ, Kirk, MJJ, Crowder, Tate, Tyrell, Conley, Mooney, Davis
TE: Engram, Jonnu, Ian Thomas, Olsen, K.Smith

Team 2:
12-Team | PPR | 1QB - (Year 2)
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX, DST, K
QB: Dak, Cam, Big Ben, Dalton
RB: Zeke, Sanders, Bell, Dobbins, Conner, Robinson, Justice, T.Williams
WR: Hopkins, Keenan, Boyd, DJM, Lamb, Miller, D-Jax, AB, Stills
TE: Engram, Hock, Ian Thomas, Herndon, Oliver
(Taxi): Mooney, Reed

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Start: 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 1DST, 1K
QB: Cam, 12-inch Minsh
RB: CMC, Sanders, Robinson
WR: Adams, DJM, Woods, Parker, Gallup, Edelman, AJG
TE: Andrews, Alie-Cox
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Re: Most talented undrafted player

Postby Phaded » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:54 am

Maybe not THE most talented - but I like Greg Dortch as a flier.

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Re: Most talented undrafted player

Postby whodunnit » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:12 am

Stanley Morgan Jr is my main one. I had him as my WR4 coming into the draft and can't believe he went undrafted

Alex Barnes is my next choice. I was hoping he would go to Tampa because he kind of reminds me of David Johnson and I thought Arians would love him.

Those are my 2 main targets as far as undrafted guys.
Watson Goff Trubisky Rosen *Luck
A.Jones Ingram Gurley Conner R.Jones Robinson
Hill Golladay Boykin Williams Renfrow Lamb Reagor Pittman Shenault Doctson Tr.Smith O.Johnson
Hockenson Hollister Knox Kmet Eifert
Allen Watt Armstead Beasley Barnett Collier
Judon Chubb Jones P.Smith Takitaki Whitehead
Savage Jackson Ward
PS: Newman, Jamie (QB) Borghi, Max (RB) Brown, Journey (RB) Wallace, Tylan (WR) Surratt, Sage (WR)


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Henry Gurley Jacobs Montgomery McKinnon Pollard Procise Burkhead
Hopkins Kupp Ridley AJG
Fant Brate James Reed
Heyward Houston Jordan
Watt Collins Mack Dupree Bucannon Bradham
Mathieu Diggs

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Re: Most talented undrafted player

Postby John Paul » Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:47 am

Alex Barnes.
10 Team PPR Dynasty (2012 Startup) 2018 1st 2019 2nd
1 QB, 1-3 RB, 2-4 WR, 1-2 TE, 1 Flex, K, LB, DB, DL(11 starters total)(30 Man Rosters, 1 IR)

QB: Joe Burrow(Trade '20), Mitchell Trubisky(2.04/'17), Gardner Minshew(Trade'20)
RB: Todd Gurley(1.04/'15), Joe Mixon(Trade'18), AJ Dillon(3.03/'20), Tarik Cohen(WW/'17), Raheem Mostert(WW/'19), Kenyan Drake(Trade'20), Chase Edmunds(WW/'20), Jerrick McKinnon(WW/'20), Darrell Henderson(WW/'20)
WR: Julio Jones(Trade '20), Mike Evans(Trade '18), Cooper Kupp(Trade '18), Allen Robinson (Trade '19), Parris Campbell(1.10/'19)[IR], Andy Isabella(2.02/'19), Steven Sims(5.08/'20)
TE: Mark Andrews(WW/'19), Darren Waller(WW/'19), Jordan Reid(WW/'20)
K: Zuerlein(WW/'17), Joey Slye(WW/'20)
LB: Fred Warner(WW/'19), Kenneth Murray(5.09/'20), Zach Cunningham(WW/'20)
DB: Jabril Peppers(WW/'19), John Johnson(WW/'20)
DL: Sam Hubbard(WW/'19), Chase Young(3.08/'20)

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2021: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2
2022: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4


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