Penny for Kerryon Johnson

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Rashad Penny
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21%
Kerryon Johnson
59
79%
 
Total votes: 75

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Re: Penny for Kerryon Johnson

Postby hoos89 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:43 pm

Why would you do that? Kerryon is worth several of Penny.
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2020 Runner-up
Rodgers, Wentz, M. Jones
Taylor, Chubb, Ekeler, J. Williams, M. Carter, D. Harris, Gaskin, Conner, Michel, McKinnon, Ahmed
AJB, Chase, DJM, Aiyuk, Claypool, Slayton, A. St. Brown, MVS, Agholor, Palmer
Andrews, Herndon
IR(3):
Taxi(4): Tua, G. Davis, Bowden
2022 Picks: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
Tannehill, Z. Wilson, Tua, Bridgewater, Mariota, Eason
Barkley, CEH, Etienne, J. Jackson, Bowden, Homer, Love
J. Jefferson, Metcalf, Evans, McLaurin, Thielen, Cooks, Jeudy, Waddle, R. Moore, Berrios, Foster, Hansen, Harmon, C. Johnson, T. Johnson
Kelce, Herndon
2022 Picks: 2, 3

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Re: Penny for Kerryon Johnson

Postby BucFanJKE » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:55 pm

Kerryon = Penny + 1.03-1.06ish
Team 1- '18 Champ, '19 2nd, '20 Champ
SF .5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 1SF, 3R, 3W, 1T, 1WRT, 1WT)
QB- Watson, Dak, Wentz
RB- Chubb, Gibson, Zeke, Sanders, Pollard, Gainwell, White
WR- MT, Higgins, OBJ, Boyd, Reagor, Crowder, Edwards
TE- Gesicki, Ertz, Friermuth, OJH

Team 2 - '20 Champ
PPR (1Q, 2R, 3W, 1T, 2WRT)
QB- Rodgers, Brees, Winston
RB- Sanders, Chubb, CEH, Ekeler, McKissic
WR- Adams, Higgins, DJM , OBJ, Edwards, Hamler, Cobb
TE- Henry, Herndon, Njoku, Knox, Trautman

Team 3- '20 2nd
.5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 2 R, 3W, 1 T, 3 WRT)
QB: Dak, J. Allen, Darnold, Trubisky
RB: CMC, Saquon, Taylor, Dobbins, Gibson
WR: Adams, AJB, Metcalf, Godwin, Higgins, DJ Moore, OBJ, Edwards
TE: Kelce, Henry, L.Thomas

Team 4- (Adopted Dumpster Orphan)
.5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 2 R, 3W, 1 T, 3 WRT)
QB: Lawrence, Darnold
RB: Vaughn, Benjamin, R.Freeman
WR: Higgins, Bateman, R. Moore, Edwards, TJohnson
TE: Herndon, Knox
6 2022 1sts, 5 2023 1sts

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Re: Penny for Kerryon Johnson

Postby bjd5211 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:15 pm

I'm easily taking KJ over Penny

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Re: Penny for Kerryon Johnson

Postby Gator Sens » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:29 pm

I would rather have Johnson pretty easily. I do think Penny makes a jump but still Johnson.

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Re: Penny for Kerryon Johnson

Postby BucFanJKE » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:37 pm

Lol at everyone voting Penny. Are yall trolling or for real?
Team 1- '18 Champ, '19 2nd, '20 Champ
SF .5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 1SF, 3R, 3W, 1T, 1WRT, 1WT)
QB- Watson, Dak, Wentz
RB- Chubb, Gibson, Zeke, Sanders, Pollard, Gainwell, White
WR- MT, Higgins, OBJ, Boyd, Reagor, Crowder, Edwards
TE- Gesicki, Ertz, Friermuth, OJH

Team 2 - '20 Champ
PPR (1Q, 2R, 3W, 1T, 2WRT)
QB- Rodgers, Brees, Winston
RB- Sanders, Chubb, CEH, Ekeler, McKissic
WR- Adams, Higgins, DJM , OBJ, Edwards, Hamler, Cobb
TE- Henry, Herndon, Njoku, Knox, Trautman

Team 3- '20 2nd
.5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 2 R, 3W, 1 T, 3 WRT)
QB: Dak, J. Allen, Darnold, Trubisky
RB: CMC, Saquon, Taylor, Dobbins, Gibson
WR: Adams, AJB, Metcalf, Godwin, Higgins, DJ Moore, OBJ, Edwards
TE: Kelce, Henry, L.Thomas

Team 4- (Adopted Dumpster Orphan)
.5 PPR TE Prem (1Q, 2 R, 3W, 1 T, 3 WRT)
QB: Lawrence, Darnold
RB: Vaughn, Benjamin, R.Freeman
WR: Higgins, Bateman, R. Moore, Edwards, TJohnson
TE: Herndon, Knox
6 2022 1sts, 5 2023 1sts

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Re: Penny for Kerryon Johnson

Postby bjd5211 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:45 pm

BucFanJKE wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:37 pm
Lol at everyone voting Penny. Are yall trolling or for real?
Right? Yet all the comments are saying KJ

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Re: Penny for Kerryon Johnson

Postby murphysxm » Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:18 pm

I am lower on KJ than most on this forum, but he is VASTLY more valuable than Penny to me. VASTLY

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Re: Penny for Kerryon Johnson

Postby AresGodOWar2 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:21 pm

I'll tell you what I don't think it's going to be as far of a gap as everyone thinks now when the season is over , If it wasn't for Carson being in Sea. then Penny would be drafted as a top 5-10 RB , If Carson misses time Penny will be awesome.

I like KJ a lot but I don't think he will be the bellcow this year , CJA will take short yards and goal line , Det has said they don't wanna overwork KJ , I almost think even if Carson plays that Penny will get more carries than KJ , Now KJ should catch a lot more passes but who knows what happens with Riddick yet.

Right now value wize it's easy KJ but next year if Carson is gone I could see Penny taking over in value.
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(5) 12 Team
QB-P.Mahomes, J.Winston
RB-A.Ekeler, C.Carson, L.Fournette, R.Penny, J.Jackson
WR-T.Hill, S.Diggs, K.Allen, C.Kupp, K.Golladay
TE-G.Kittle, C.Kmet

(6) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 1.75 PPR
QB-J.Goff, J.Winston, C.Newton
RB-J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, K.Drake, S.Perine, L.Bell
WR-D.Adams, S.Diggs, T.Boyd, B.Cooks, D.Parker, A.Brown
TE-D.Waller, E.Engram

(7) 12 Team, .15 PPRushingYard
QB-D.Watson, C.Newton
RB-C.McCaffery, C.Carson, D.Johnson, M.Davis, P.Lindsay, R.Penny
WR-M.Thomas, D.Hopkins, B.Cooks, B.Perriman
TE-D.Goedert, A.Trautman

(8) 12 Team, .5 PPR
QB-D.Prescott, R.Tannehill
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, L.Fournette, J.Kelly
WR-D.Adams, M.Evans, R.Woods, C.Claypool, M.Williams, D.Mooney
TE-D.Waller


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Re: Penny for Kerryon Johnson

Postby smallxl » Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:47 pm

Kerryon
22-man, 12-team, 1 pt-PPR; Start 1-2RB; 3-4 WR; 1-2 TE

TEAM 1
QB: Prescott, Foles
RB: Barkley, P Barber, Duke, Gio Bernard, Gus, C Thompson, Breida, Ekeler
WR: A Cooper, Cooks, Lockett, C. Davis, Crowder, Chark, Stills
TE: OJ Howard

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Re: Penny for Kerryon Johnson

Postby SillyNinja » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:07 pm

KJ all day. If you really like Penny, you need to ask for more in return.
Team:

14 Team, .5 PPR, 24 roster (+2 IR): 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX, 1 DST
QB: Cam, Stafford
RB: McCaffrey, Royce Freeman, Breida, CJ Anderson, Gus Edwards, Carlos Hyde, Scarlett, Dexter Williams, Ogunbowale, Gallman
WR: OBJ, DeAndre Hopkins, Marvin Jones, Boykin, Callaway, Parris Campbell, McLaurin
TE: Ertz, Waller
DST: Browns, Patriots

Picks: 2020: 1st, 1st, 4th 2021: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

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Re: Penny for Kerryon Johnson

Postby esloan35 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:08 pm

KJ runs upright and exposes his lower extremities. I am not sold he can stay healthy in the NFL with his running style. Penny fits the mold of a thumper and might get his shot. I wouldn't move Penny for KJ. I voted Penny.

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Re: Penny for Kerryon Johnson

Postby LMS123 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:16 pm

How is this poll so close lol? I expected it to be like 90% Kerryon
Team 1: 12 team PPR SF (2019 Runner Up)
(QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, K, DEF, SF, FLEX, FLEX)
QB - Jackson, Mayfield, Trubisky, RG3, Kaep, Fromm
RB - Barkley, Gurley, Singletary, Mostert, Armstead, Gibson, Hasty
WR - Kupp, AJG, Anderson, Aiyuk, Ross, Perriman, O. Johnson, Cole, Miller, Quinn, Bourne, Ford, Gage, Proche, Reed, T. Johnson
TE - Kittle, Njoku, Griffin, Moreau, Keene, Arnold, Boyle, Bryant
K -
Def - 49ers
2021 Picks: 4th, 4th, 4th
2022 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

Team 2: 12 team 0.5 RB/WR PPR, 1.5 TE PPR, SF
(QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, SF, F, F, F)
QB - Darnold, Lock, Minshew, Mariota, Gordon
RB - Cook, Mixon, Taylor, Coleman, Bernard, Warren, Huntley, Bellamy
WR - Kupp, Mims, Shenault, Hardman, Duvernay, Ross, DPJ, Watson, Mooney, Flash Gordon
TE - Gesicki, Jonnu, Thomas, Keene, Eifert, Parham, Sullivan
2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 5th, 5th
2022 Picks: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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Re: Penny for Kerryon Johnson

Postby hoos89 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:42 pm

LMS123 wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:16 pm
How is this poll so close lol? I expected it to be like 90% Kerryon
And yet the comments are 90% Kerryon.
esloan35 wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:08 pm
KJ runs upright and exposes his lower extremities. I am not sold he can stay healthy in the NFL with his running style. Penny fits the mold of a thumper and might get his shot. I wouldn't move Penny for KJ. I voted Penny.
Even if you don't like KJ, you could most likely flip him for a more established player than Penny. KJ's ADP is 32 and Penny's is 81...I'd have to think there's someone between the two that (a) you like better than Penny and (b) and owner would sell straight up or better in exchange for KJ.
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2020 Runner-up
Rodgers, Wentz, M. Jones
Taylor, Chubb, Ekeler, J. Williams, M. Carter, D. Harris, Gaskin, Conner, Michel, McKinnon, Ahmed
AJB, Chase, DJM, Aiyuk, Claypool, Slayton, A. St. Brown, MVS, Agholor, Palmer
Andrews, Herndon
IR(3):
Taxi(4): Tua, G. Davis, Bowden
2022 Picks: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
Tannehill, Z. Wilson, Tua, Bridgewater, Mariota, Eason
Barkley, CEH, Etienne, J. Jackson, Bowden, Homer, Love
J. Jefferson, Metcalf, Evans, McLaurin, Thielen, Cooks, Jeudy, Waddle, R. Moore, Berrios, Foster, Hansen, Harmon, C. Johnson, T. Johnson
Kelce, Herndon
2022 Picks: 2, 3

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Re: Penny for Kerryon Johnson

Postby Cowboysfan33 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:32 pm

I value KJ more than Penny but the gap isn’t as big for me. Mainly because Carson was hard to keep off the field last season, because down the stretch of the season Penny got more playing time and looked a lot better than he did earlier in the season. Like I said, I do value KJ a little more, maybe a late-1st or so, for me. I won’t be surprised at all, if this time next off-season, they are basically worth the same.

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Re: Penny for Kerryon Johnson

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:39 pm

BucFanJKE wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:55 pm
Kerryon = Penny + 1.03-1.06ish
I don't think that's right. Sorry, but Penny was good toward the back half of the year, and KJ got hurt. Sure KJ produced well comparatively, but no way I'd trade Penny and an early first for KJ. Penny is still a first round RB, and by all accounts is looking very good this year, too. His value should not have decreased that much in my eyes. If it has, you're much better off with Penny and an early first than KJ. Projecting forward, not looking back, that's just not a good offer for anyone to make. Penny was an early first round rookie pick last year, and he did enough to not have his value torpedoed to the extent where he's a throw in to get KJ.

@OP. KJ is worth more than Penny, so you'd want to get Penny plus, for sure. If you can get any first on top I'd gladly do it, personally.


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