Chris Godwin Heat Check

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Re: Chris Godwin Heat Check

Postby ArrylT » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:43 pm

Lord_Varys wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:11 pm
ArrylT wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:30 pm https://dynastyleaguefootball.com/2019/ ... is-godwin/

Make sure to check out this article by Ryan McDowell. :)
Behind a paywall. Excerpts or summary?
The basic summary is that Godwins value in the dynasty community is already top 20 - he gives plenty of solid evidence on why this is so.
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Re: Chris Godwin Heat Check

Postby Hottoddies » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:47 pm

MrUbuto wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:32 am There isn't many teams that can support 2 fantasy relevant wrs.
Not too many; just the Rams, Steelers, Vikings, Falcons, and yes, the Buccaneers did it last year.
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Re: Chris Godwin Heat Check

Postby Johnny B. Goode » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:18 pm

Hottoddies wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:47 pm
MrUbuto wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:32 am There isn't many teams that can support 2 fantasy relevant wrs.
Not too many; just the Rams, Steelers, Vikings, Falcons, and yes, the Buccaneers did it last year.
Bengals, Lions have a good history, usually GB. Houston with a healthy Fuller. Denver

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Re: Chris Godwin Heat Check

Postby Jigga94 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:37 am

NoRiskItNoBiscuit wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:18 pm
Hottoddies wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:47 pm
MrUbuto wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:32 am There isn't many teams that can support 2 fantasy relevant wrs.
Not too many; just the Rams, Steelers, Vikings, Falcons, and yes, the Buccaneers did it last year.
Bengals, Lions have a good history, usually GB. Houston with a healthy Fuller. Denver
Probably safe to add the Browns now. Idk about Denver moving forward. So that's a pretty good handful that currently support multiple WR. The other teams either have a very productive RB/TE (Philly, KC, etc) as well or just can't support anyone (BAL, TEN)

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Re: Chris Godwin Heat Check

Postby Johnny B. Goode » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:09 am

Jigga94 wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:37 am
NoRiskItNoBiscuit wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:18 pm
Hottoddies wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:47 pm

Not too many; just the Rams, Steelers, Vikings, Falcons, and yes, the Buccaneers did it last year.
Bengals, Lions have a good history, usually GB. Houston with a healthy Fuller. Denver
Probably safe to add the Browns now. Idk about Denver moving forward. So that's a pretty good handful that currently support multiple WR. The other teams either have a very productive RB/TE (Philly, KC, etc) as well or just can't support anyone (BAL, TEN)
Correct

I guess roughly half the league is considered "there isnt many" (which I cant decide which I struggle with more: the grammar of that statement or what was actually said)
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Re: Chris Godwin Heat Check

Postby Lord_Varys » Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:09 am

ArrylT wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:43 pm
Lord_Varys wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:11 pm
ArrylT wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:30 pm https://dynastyleaguefootball.com/2019/ ... is-godwin/

Make sure to check out this article by Ryan McDowell. :)
Behind a paywall. Excerpts or summary?
The basic summary is that Godwins value in the dynasty community is already top 20 - he gives plenty of solid evidence on why this is so.
Top 20 WR or overall?

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Re: Chris Godwin Heat Check

Postby bjd5211 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:26 am

Lord_Varys wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:09 am
ArrylT wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:43 pm
Lord_Varys wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:11 pm

Behind a paywall. Excerpts or summary?
The basic summary is that Godwins value in the dynasty community is already top 20 - he gives plenty of solid evidence on why this is so.
Top 20 WR or overall?
Top 20 WR, they have him top 50 overall (45th or 46th)

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Re: Chris Godwin Heat Check

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:12 am

Godwin is going in the 4th of most startups right now, that I have seen.
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Re: Chris Godwin Heat Check

Postby Cameron Giles » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:25 am

Johnny B. Goode wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:04 pm
MrUbuto wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:32 am There isn't many teams that can support 2 fantasy relevant wrs.
This is incorrect
Yep. If we're keeping track at home:

Winston and Fitzpatrick combined to be the QB3 last year. So, if you consistently started TB's QB, you basically had an elite QB1 every week. On top of that, they had:

- WR9 in Mike Evans
- WR24 in Adam Humphries
- WR30 in Chris Godwin
- WR41 in DeSean Jackson
- TE6 in PPG in OJ Howard

Last season, TB supported three Top-36 WR's, a TE1 and a high-level bye-week fill-in. This season:

- They have a better coach, who also runs a pass-heavy offense
- Their defense still sucks (mainly secondary)
- They have arguably the worst RB rotation in the league and will likely avoid becoming a heavy running team. Last season they were 4th in passing attempts and 22nd in rushing attempts. That's a pretty good projection for what will happen again this season.
- They lost over 200 targets in their offense
- They did not spend any significant money or draft capital on RB's or WR's.

TB may be the easiest situation to buy into right now AND they have the talent on top of it. Mike Evans is already easy money, but Chris Godwin and O.J. Howard are in prime position for big years.'

It sounds like Godwin's ADP is climbing, so buying right now is getting tougher. There was a window though where people could've bought fairly and affordably.

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Re: Chris Godwin Heat Check

Postby Portsmouth Spartans » Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:28 am

Was offered Kirk and a 2021 1st (early to mid) for my Godwin and #11.

I’m higher than most on Kirk and hate this draft class, so I’m actually considering it.
10 team standard, keeper with 5-year option contracts (remaining years in parentheses, $5 per additional year when extended), $200 salary cap. Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE
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QB: Jackson ($8 3yr+extension)
RB: Mixon ($5 1yr+extension), Chubb ($5 2yr+extension), Sanders ($5 3yr+ extension), Michel ($5 1yr+extension), Guice ($5 2yr+extension)
WR: Godwin ($1 2yr+extension), AJ Brown ($3 3yr+extension), Chark ($8 3yr+extension), M. Brown ($3 3y +extension), Isabella ($3 3yr+ extension)
TE: Kittle ($3, 2yr+extension), Henry ($1 2yr+extension), Goedert ($1 3yr+extension)

2020: 1.01, 1.02, 1.03, 2.01, 2.04, 2.10
2021: 1 1st
2022: 2 1st
2023: 1 1st

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Re: Chris Godwin Heat Check

Postby Pac_Eddy » Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:49 am

Portsmouth Spartans wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2019 7:28 am Was offered Kirk and a 2021 1st (early to mid) for my Godwin and #11.

I’m higher than most on Kirk and hate this draft class, so I’m actually considering it.
I think I'd accept that offer. I like Kirk too, and moving 1.11 this year for a likely better in 2021 is appealing.
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Re: Chris Godwin Heat Check

Postby Phaded » Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:03 am

Someone bought Godwin recently in my league by paying 1.02, 2.07, LJax & Lamar Miller.

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Re: Chris Godwin Heat Check

Postby Servo » Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:36 am

Phaded wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:03 am Someone bought Godwin recently in my league by paying 1.02, 2.07, LJax & Lamar Miller.
Lol woof

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Re: Chris Godwin Heat Check

Postby lbi » Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:48 am

Servo wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:36 am
Phaded wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:03 am Someone bought Godwin recently in my league by paying 1.02, 2.07, LJax & Lamar Miller.
Lol woof
I'm the guy who did it so I'll defend it.

It's a 10 team, 1 qb,16 keeper IDP league. 30 man rosters.

Ljax is worthless, with keepers due in a few weeks. Miller is a borderline keeper.
I'm keeping 4 rb- KJ, dj, drake, hunt. 2 qbs, Russ and dak.
Godwin is a lot more likely to see my roster as a flex than Miller or any rookies this year. I also got back his 4th/5th. Rookies often end up back in the draft next year given the limited number of keepers, and IDP as well.
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Qb: luck, wentz, trubisky,bridgewater , webb, beathard,
Rb: rojo, hunt, drake, Lindsay rodgers
Wr. obj, parker, doctson, m.lee,r. anderson ty.will, conley, pryor, d.moore westbrook Gibson, a Carr, r Higgins, r foster
T.e:kroft, rsj, barwin, butt, j.hollister, c.herndon

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Re: Chris Godwin Heat Check

Postby dynastyninja » Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:32 am

lbi wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:48 am
Servo wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:36 am
Phaded wrote: Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:03 am Someone bought Godwin recently in my league by paying 1.02, 2.07, LJax & Lamar Miller.
Lol woof
I'm the guy who did it so I'll defend it.

It's a 10 team, 1 qb,16 keeper IDP league. 30 man rosters.

Ljax is worthless, with keepers due in a few weeks. Miller is a borderline keeper.
I'm keeping 4 rb- KJ, dj, drake, hunt. 2 qbs, Russ and dak.
Godwin is a lot more likely to see my roster as a flex than Miller or any rookies this year. I also got back his 4th/5th. Rookies often end up back in the draft next year given the limited number of keepers, and IDP as well.
Nothing in your explanation justifies that deal to me.

Could it work out for you? Yes. Did you lose value? Yes.


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