Sammy Watkins and Will fuller for Miles Sanders, yes or no?

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Sammy Watkins and Will fuller for Miles Sanders, yes or no?

Postby UATahoe » Sat May 18, 2019 8:45 am

Would you guys make this move to secure the eagles backfield?
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Re: Sammy Watkins and Will fuller for Miles Sanders, yes or no?

Postby chalorpas » Sat May 18, 2019 8:56 am

UATahoe wrote: Sat May 18, 2019 8:45 am Would you guys make this move to secure the eagles backfield?
Yes. Two perpetually injured players for a potential RB1.

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Re: Sammy Watkins and Will fuller for Miles Sanders, yes or no?

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Sat May 18, 2019 9:05 am

Tough one. Fuller is such a beast when he plays. And Sammy should be a backend wr1 this year.

I think I'd pass and try and get Sanders later or just shoot for a 2020 1st for each player and get a rb next year
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Re: Sammy Watkins and Will fuller for Miles Sanders, yes or no?

Postby BradysBunch » Sat May 18, 2019 9:42 am

I could see arguments for both sides. I go with team need.
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Re: Sammy Watkins and Will fuller for Miles Sanders, yes or no?

Postby pack4ever22 » Sat May 18, 2019 10:08 am

chalorpas wrote: Sat May 18, 2019 8:56 am Yes. Two perpetually injured players for a potential RB1.
Injury prone until they are not. Lots of players have earned that label early in their career and then gone on to have long productive careers.
Sure they have had injuries but both are still very young and have been good-very good when on the field. Sanders is no sure thing, and especially with Tyreek likely out the year I'm not willing to move both of those players for Sanders.

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Re: Sammy Watkins and Will fuller for Miles Sanders, yes or no?

Postby FuzzySignificance » Sat May 18, 2019 10:10 am

with your roster I'd consider it but imho it's a pretty serious overpay.
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Re: Sammy Watkins and Will fuller for Miles Sanders, yes or no?

Postby UATahoe » Sat May 18, 2019 10:38 am

Good info guys. Thanks. Any other options you guys might consider with the package?
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Re: Sammy Watkins and Will fuller for Miles Sanders, yes or no?

Postby Gator Sens » Sat May 18, 2019 11:12 am

Based on your roster, I understand the trade but its way too much to give up in my opinion.

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Re: Sammy Watkins and Will fuller for Miles Sanders, yes or no?

Postby Edgy68 » Sun May 19, 2019 6:57 am

I like the move for your team, but I agree it's an overpay. You should be able to get at least a 2020 2nd back as well.
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Re: Sammy Watkins and Will fuller for Miles Sanders, yes or no?

Postby AresGodOWar » Sun May 19, 2019 7:06 am

SteveMaddensShoes wrote: Sat May 18, 2019 9:05 am Tough one. Fuller is such a beast when he plays. And Sammy should be a backend wr1 this year.

I think I'd pass and try and get Sanders later or just shoot for a 2020 1st for each player and get a rb next year
I agree with trying for a 1st for each player when the year starts and they are tearing it up if your looking to move them , I want a 2020 1st + for Watkins where I am rebuilding and offered a 2020 1st for each where I am trying to win now (I did get denied though the owners want more than a 2020 1st for each)

If you can hold out for a 1st for each that's the best option , I think Sanders is getting crazy overated and don't compare to at least 3 of the RBs and a couple WRs in next years draft that I know of and don't really know college.
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Re: Sammy Watkins and Will fuller for Miles Sanders, yes or no?

Postby joeya2001 » Sun May 19, 2019 8:05 am

as a owner of both WRs I'd pass even with big RBs needs
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Re: Sammy Watkins and Will fuller for Miles Sanders, yes or no?

Postby chalorpas » Sun May 19, 2019 12:44 pm

AresGodOWar wrote: Sun May 19, 2019 7:06 am
SteveMaddensShoes wrote: Sat May 18, 2019 9:05 am Tough one. Fuller is such a beast when he plays. And Sammy should be a backend wr1 this year.

I think I'd pass and try and get Sanders later or just shoot for a 2020 1st for each player and get a rb next year
I agree with trying for a 1st for each player when the year starts and they are tearing it up if your looking to move them , I want a 2020 1st + for Watkins where I am rebuilding and offered a 2020 1st for each where I am trying to win now (I did get denied though the owners want more than a 2020 1st for each)

If you can hold out for a 1st for each that's the best option , I think Sanders is getting crazy overated and don't compare to at least 3 of the RBs and a couple WRs in next years draft that I know of and don't really know college.
Man, I can’t imagine offering a 2020 1st for Watkins. Sure, he’s in a great situation but he’s made of glass. He hasn’t surpassed 600 yards in the past 3 YEARS due to injury. He is as broken as Tyler eifert. He’s a huge sell for me and getting Sanders would be a win IMO.

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Re: Sammy Watkins and Will fuller for Miles Sanders, yes or no?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sun May 19, 2019 1:50 pm

SteveMaddensShoes wrote: Sat May 18, 2019 9:05 am Tough one. Fuller is such a beast when he plays. And Sammy should be a backend wr1 this year.

I think I'd pass and try and get Sanders later or just shoot for a 2020 1st for each player and get a rb next year
Yeah it’s a tough one.

I’d for sure lean Sanders’ way in a vacuum, and also in a rebuild.

For a competing team who needs WR depth and is strong at RB, I’d want the WR package.
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Re: Sammy Watkins and Will fuller for Miles Sanders, yes or no?

Postby hoos89 » Sun May 19, 2019 1:54 pm

chalorpas wrote: Sun May 19, 2019 12:44 pm
Man, I can’t imagine offering a 2020 1st for Watkins. Sure, he’s in a great situation but he’s made of glass. He hasn’t surpassed 600 yards in the past 3 YEARS due to injury. He is as broken as Tyler eifert. He’s a huge sell for me and getting Sanders would be a win IMO.
...maybe if it was just Watkins for Sanders, but Watkins + Fuller is steep.
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