2 good players for a top 10 WR

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2 good players for a top 10 WR

Postby AresGodOWar » Fri May 17, 2019 10:41 am

He said - Tommy, going forward I will no longer respond to lopsided trade offers. If it’s bad, I’ll just let it sit... Is this offer really that bad ?

.2 PPC , 1 PPR , SF

I offered - K.Allen , Barber
For
A.Jones , DJ.Moore

I know Barber isn't great or even that good but right now he is the starting RB on a very good offence , And TB didn't sign or draft anyone , Plus he has a nice RB friendly coach
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(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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Re: 2 good players for a top 10 WR

Postby PR0v3 » Fri May 17, 2019 10:49 am

AresGodOWar wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 10:41 am Is this offer really that bad ?

K.Allen , Barber
For
A.Jones , DJ.Moore

I know Barber isn't great or even that good but right now he is the starting RB on a very good offence , And TB didn't sign or draft anyone , Plus he has a nice RB friendly coach
I would prefer the KA pretty easily. I don't value Jones as much as others, so it's basically Allen vs Moore for me. Seems fine though if someone likes Jones.
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Re: 2 good players for a top 10 WR

Postby CrimeLord » Fri May 17, 2019 10:50 am

I could make arguments for both sides so I don't think it's offensive

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Re: 2 good players for a top 10 WR

Postby bigbuck22 » Fri May 17, 2019 10:51 am

I think it's pretty fair.

I like Jones and Moore but believe they are overhyped, particularly as fantasy assets. Nice pieces-sure. Great pieces-no.

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Re: 2 good players for a top 10 WR

Postby abloom » Fri May 17, 2019 11:12 am

Keenan for me, but I think this is pretty fair
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W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens
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T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE

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Re: 2 good players for a top 10 WR

Postby IR1 » Fri May 17, 2019 11:19 am

abloom wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 11:12 am Keenan for me, but I think this is pretty fair
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10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
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Re: 2 good players for a top 10 WR

Postby FuzzySignificance » Fri May 17, 2019 11:26 am

the issue isn't the value on your roster, it's the value of the players as assets. peyton barber is unflippable. he basically has zero trade value. he's a great guy to go after as a depth piece if your roster is built to compete but otherwise, I'm passing on this deal and keeping jones/moore.
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QB: Deshaun Watson, Marcus Mariota
RB: Ezekiel Elliott, Le'Veon Bell, Kerryon Johnson, Peyton Barber, Ronald Jones, Darwin Thompson
WR: Amari Cooper, Adam Thielen, Antonio Brown, Will Fuller, DeDe Westbrook, Robby Anderson, Marquise Goodwin, Justin Watson, Albert Wilson, Greg Dortch
TE: Travis Kelce, Vance McDonald, Kyle Rudolph, Delanie Walker, Ian Thomas, Gerald Everett

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Re: 2 good players for a top 10 WR

Postby Goddard » Fri May 17, 2019 11:40 am

IR1 wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 11:19 am
abloom wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 11:12 am Keenan for me, but I think this is pretty fair
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Re: 2 good players for a top 10 WR

Postby AresGodOWar » Fri May 17, 2019 11:54 am

Goddard wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 11:40 am
IR1 wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 11:19 am
abloom wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 11:12 am Keenan for me, but I think this is pretty fair
x2
x3
Thank you fellas , I felt shitty about it he said - Tommy, going forward I will no longer respond to lopsided trade offers. If it’s bad, I’ll just let it sit.
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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Re: 2 good players for a top 10 WR

Postby Gator Sens » Fri May 17, 2019 12:14 pm

AresGodOWar wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 11:54 am
Goddard wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 11:40 am
IR1 wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 11:19 am

x2
x3
Thank you fellas , I felt shitty about it he said - Tommy, going forward I will no longer respond to lopsided trade offers. If it’s bad, I’ll just let it sit.
x4 - I'm not sure why the owner would be so upset about the offer. I personally never get offended by an offer, I simply decline and say not interested. We text a ton in my league about trades, so lots of good back and forth

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Re: 2 good players for a top 10 WR

Postby hoos89 » Fri May 17, 2019 12:16 pm

I'm assuming you're the Keenan/Barber side given that you felt the need to defend Barber (not because one side is so lopsided). This is a perfectly fair opening offer...I'd take the Moore/Jones side personally, but I can see the arguments for Keenan (and clearly there are several who would prefer him).
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2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
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Re: 2 good players for a top 10 WR

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri May 17, 2019 12:25 pm

CrimeLord wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 10:50 am I could make arguments for both sides so I don't think it's offensive
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TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
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HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: 2 good players for a top 10 WR

Postby jwb32 » Fri May 17, 2019 12:46 pm

Gator Sens wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 12:14 pm
AresGodOWar wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 11:54 am
Goddard wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 11:40 am

x3
Thank you fellas , I felt shitty about it he said - Tommy, going forward I will no longer respond to lopsided trade offers. If it’s bad, I’ll just let it sit.
x4 - I'm not sure why the owner would be so upset about the offer. I personally never get offended by an offer, I simply decline and say not interested. We text a ton in my league about trades, so lots of good back and forth
The whole "I don't respond to offensive offers" is such BS. Just respond and move on. Its a freakin' game! Furthermore, calling this offer offensive, is more offensive than any offensive offer.
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Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
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RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
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RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
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Re: 2 good players for a top 10 WR

Postby AresGodOWar » Fri May 17, 2019 9:09 pm

jwb32 wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 12:46 pm
Gator Sens wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 12:14 pm
AresGodOWar wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 11:54 am

Thank you fellas , I felt shitty about it he said - Tommy, going forward I will no longer respond to lopsided trade offers. If it’s bad, I’ll just let it sit.
x4 - I'm not sure why the owner would be so upset about the offer. I personally never get offended by an offer, I simply decline and say not interested. We text a ton in my league about trades, so lots of good back and forth
The whole "I don't respond to offensive offers" is such BS. Just respond and move on. Its a freakin' game! Furthermore, calling this offer offensive, is more offensive than any offensive offer.
Yup I hear you it's messed up , Well I'll never offer him another trade.
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
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Re: 2 good players for a top 10 WR

Postby Blueboy » Fri May 17, 2019 10:22 pm

Funnily enough I sent out a similar trade -- my KA and Brees (SFlex) for his Moore and Penny -- and got told told it wasn't anywhere close.

12-team SF, PPR, TE premium, 0.25 PPCarry
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1SF 4Flex
QB: Mahomes, Fields, Love
RB: Bijan, ETN, Pollard, Achane, Herbert
WR: Kupp, Hill, Metcalf, Ridley, Jeudy, D.J. M, Burks, Hollywood, Wan'Dale
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