2 good players for a top 10 WR

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2 good players for a top 10 WR

Postby AresGodOWar » Fri May 17, 2019 10:41 am

He said - Tommy, going forward I will no longer respond to lopsided trade offers. If it’s bad, I’ll just let it sit... Is this offer really that bad ?

.2 PPC , 1 PPR , SF

I offered - K.Allen , Barber
For
A.Jones , DJ.Moore

I know Barber isn't great or even that good but right now he is the starting RB on a very good offence , And TB didn't sign or draft anyone , Plus he has a nice RB friendly coach
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QB-C.Newton, A.Dalton
RB-M.Gordon, D.Cook, K.Drake, A.Ekeler, J.Williams
WR-O.Beckham, D.Adams, M.Thomas, A.Brown, T.Boyd, D.Parker
TE-G.Kittle, D.Waller
Taxi-I.Thomas, L.Jackson, K.Ballage, J.Jackson

(TEAM 2) (Rebuild) 12 Team, .5 PPR
QB-M.Mariota
RB-J.Mixon, K.Drake, K.Hunt, TJ.Yeldon
WR-K.Golladay, T.Boyd, D.Westbrook, G.Allison, D.Parker
TE-J.Smith
Taxi-R.Jones, J.Washington, A.Mattison, I.Smith
Picks-6 2020 1sts , 3 2020 2nds

(TEAM 3) 12 Team, .15 PPC, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-D.Watson, L.Jackson
RB-J.Mixon, D.Cook, K.Drake, K.Ballage, G.Bernard, R.Anderson
WR-S.Diggs, K.Golladay, T.Boyd, T.Williams, D.Moncrief, G.Allison, D.Robinson
TE-G.Olsen, D.Waller, I.Thomas

(TEAM 4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPC, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, A.Dalton, J.Flacco
RB-E.Elliott, K.Johnson, K.Drake, K.Ballage, M.Davis, T.Pollard
WR-J.Smith-Schuster, K.Allen, D.Moncrief, G.Allison, D.Westbrook
TE-V.McDonald, T.Eifert


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Re: 2 good players for a top 10 WR

Postby PR0v3 » Fri May 17, 2019 10:49 am

AresGodOWar wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 10:41 am
Is this offer really that bad ?

K.Allen , Barber
For
A.Jones , DJ.Moore

I know Barber isn't great or even that good but right now he is the starting RB on a very good offence , And TB didn't sign or draft anyone , Plus he has a nice RB friendly coach
I would prefer the KA pretty easily. I don't value Jones as much as others, so it's basically Allen vs Moore for me. Seems fine though if someone likes Jones.
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RB: Penny, Justice Hill
WR: K. Allen, Boyd, C. Samuel, Ross, Davis, Pettis, A. Miller, TreQuan, Quinn, Cain
TE: Andrews, OJ, Herndon, Gesicki
K: Legatron
Taxi: Hollywood, Deebo, JJAW, Mattison, Hurd
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Re: 2 good players for a top 10 WR

Postby CrimeLord » Fri May 17, 2019 10:50 am

I could make arguments for both sides so I don't think it's offensive

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Re: 2 good players for a top 10 WR

Postby bigbuck22 » Fri May 17, 2019 10:51 am

I think it's pretty fair.

I like Jones and Moore but believe they are overhyped, particularly as fantasy assets. Nice pieces-sure. Great pieces-no.

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Re: 2 good players for a top 10 WR

Postby abloom » Fri May 17, 2019 11:12 am

Keenan for me, but I think this is pretty fair
Team #1 (1-1) rank: 5/12
12 team, 1 ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 2flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Rivers, Haskins
RB: CMC, Hunt, Samuels, Mostert, Bernard, Peterson, R Anderson (IR), McKinnon (IR), Guice (IR)
WR: Nuk, Evans, Edelman, Kirk, Couttee, D Robinson, C Samuel, Allison
TE: Witten, Goedert
DST: NE
K: Zurlein

2020 picks: rounds 1,2,2,4,5,6,7
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Team #2 (1-1) rank: 5/12
12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1qb, 2rb, 2wr, 1te, 1superflex, 1flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Wilson, Murray, Darnold, Rudolph
RB: Ingram, D. Freeman, Breida, Murray, J. Hill, D. Thopson
WR: Nuk, Allen, Godwin, Sutton, Miller, Pettis
TE: McDonald, Fant
K: Crosby
DST: GB

2020 picks: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 5, 7
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2019 Redraft (2-0) rank 3/10
10 team, 0.5ppr, 1qb, 1 rb, 2wr, 1 te, 2 flex, 1DST, 1K

QB: Brissett, Brees, Newton
RB: CMC, Kamara, Gurley, Breida
WR: K Allen, Green, Golladay, Boyd, Robinson
TE: Hockenson
K: Bryant
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Re: 2 good players for a top 10 WR

Postby IR1 » Fri May 17, 2019 11:19 am

abloom wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 11:12 am
Keenan for me, but I think this is pretty fair
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Cam, Wilson/ Kamara, Chubb, Mixon, Guice, Penny/Hopkins, Evans, Allen, CDavis, Harry, Godwin, JJAW, PWilliams, Boykin/ Kelce, Howard, Fant/ PK
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Re: 2 good players for a top 10 WR

Postby FuzzySignificance » Fri May 17, 2019 11:26 am

the issue isn't the value on your roster, it's the value of the players as assets. peyton barber is unflippable. he basically has zero trade value. he's a great guy to go after as a depth piece if your roster is built to compete but otherwise, I'm passing on this deal and keeping jones/moore.
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QB: Deshaun Watson, Marcus Mariota
RB: Ezekiel Elliott, Le'Veon Bell, Kerryon Johnson, Peyton Barber, Ronald Jones, Darwin Thompson
WR: Amari Cooper, Adam Thielen, Antonio Brown, Will Fuller, DeDe Westbrook, Robby Anderson, Marquise Goodwin, Justin Watson, Albert Wilson, Greg Dortch
TE: Travis Kelce, Vance McDonald, Kyle Rudolph, Delanie Walker, Ian Thomas, Gerald Everett

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Re: 2 good players for a top 10 WR

Postby Goddard » Fri May 17, 2019 11:40 am

IR1 wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 11:19 am
abloom wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 11:12 am
Keenan for me, but I think this is pretty fair
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Re: 2 good players for a top 10 WR

Postby AresGodOWar » Fri May 17, 2019 11:54 am

Goddard wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 11:40 am
IR1 wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 11:19 am
abloom wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 11:12 am
Keenan for me, but I think this is pretty fair
x2
x3
Thank you fellas , I felt shitty about it he said - Tommy, going forward I will no longer respond to lopsided trade offers. If it’s bad, I’ll just let it sit.
(TEAM 1) 12 Team, QB +%50 Rushing, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-C.Newton, A.Dalton
RB-M.Gordon, D.Cook, K.Drake, A.Ekeler, J.Williams
WR-O.Beckham, D.Adams, M.Thomas, A.Brown, T.Boyd, D.Parker
TE-G.Kittle, D.Waller
Taxi-I.Thomas, L.Jackson, K.Ballage, J.Jackson

(TEAM 2) (Rebuild) 12 Team, .5 PPR
QB-M.Mariota
RB-J.Mixon, K.Drake, K.Hunt, TJ.Yeldon
WR-K.Golladay, T.Boyd, D.Westbrook, G.Allison, D.Parker
TE-J.Smith
Taxi-R.Jones, J.Washington, A.Mattison, I.Smith
Picks-6 2020 1sts , 3 2020 2nds

(TEAM 3) 12 Team, .15 PPC, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-D.Watson, L.Jackson
RB-J.Mixon, D.Cook, K.Drake, K.Ballage, G.Bernard, R.Anderson
WR-S.Diggs, K.Golladay, T.Boyd, T.Williams, D.Moncrief, G.Allison, D.Robinson
TE-G.Olsen, D.Waller, I.Thomas

(TEAM 4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPC, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, A.Dalton, J.Flacco
RB-E.Elliott, K.Johnson, K.Drake, K.Ballage, M.Davis, T.Pollard
WR-J.Smith-Schuster, K.Allen, D.Moncrief, G.Allison, D.Westbrook
TE-V.McDonald, T.Eifert


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Re: 2 good players for a top 10 WR

Postby Gator Sens » Fri May 17, 2019 12:14 pm

AresGodOWar wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 11:54 am
Goddard wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 11:40 am
IR1 wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 11:19 am


x2
x3
Thank you fellas , I felt shitty about it he said - Tommy, going forward I will no longer respond to lopsided trade offers. If it’s bad, I’ll just let it sit.
x4 - I'm not sure why the owner would be so upset about the offer. I personally never get offended by an offer, I simply decline and say not interested. We text a ton in my league about trades, so lots of good back and forth
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WR: Kenny Golladay, Chris Godwin, Calvin Ridley, Mike Williams, Courtland Sutton, Christian Kirk, Dede Westbrook, Michael Gallup, Marquise Brown, John Ross, Josh Reynolds, Equanimeous St. Brown
TE: O.J. Howard, David Njoku, Greg Olsen, Ian Thomas

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Re: 2 good players for a top 10 WR

Postby hoos89 » Fri May 17, 2019 12:16 pm

I'm assuming you're the Keenan/Barber side given that you felt the need to defend Barber (not because one side is so lopsided). This is a perfectly fair opening offer...I'd take the Moore/Jones side personally, but I can see the arguments for Keenan (and clearly there are several who would prefer him).
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Wentz, Minshew, Haskins
Michel, Howard, McKinnon, Burkhead, Richard, Gaskin, Mostert
Cooks, Kupp, Watkins, Kirk, Deebo, Lee, Da. Moore, Dorsett, Perriman
Njoku, Herndon, Higbee, Dissly
IR(2): Love, Coleman
Taxi(4): Jacobs, DJ Moore, Sutton, MVS
2020 Picks: 1st x 3, 2nd, 4th, 5th

Team 3: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
Ryan, Stafford, Bridgewater, Minshew, Grier
Gurley, Cohen, Barber, M. Brown, Miller (I), McKinnon, Ito
Thomas, Woods, Watkins, Anderson, M. Jones, Foster, Doctson, KeeSean, Perriman, Beasley, Fowler
Hooper, Herndon, Witten, Swaim, Higbee
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Re: 2 good players for a top 10 WR

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri May 17, 2019 12:25 pm

CrimeLord wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 10:50 am
I could make arguments for both sides so I don't think it's offensive
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TEAM A - 12 teams (2018 champ, 2017 R/U)
RIVERS, Mayfield, Jimmy G, Dalton
GURLEY/MIXON/GORDON, Jacobs, Shady, Gio, Gallman, Scarlett, Ajayi, B Hill, Ollison, Foreman, D Martin, Ware, Rodney A
NUK/EVANS/JUJU/DIGGS/GOLLADAY, Sammy, Edelman, Landry, Pettis, Crabtree, Dez, D Slayton, Terry G
KITTLE, Herndon, Knox, Eifert, Witten
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league
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DARNOLD (Haskins, Rosen, Tyrod)
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KA/EVANS/HOLLYWOOD/METCALF/LANDRY, Coutee, J Reynolds, Latimer
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Re: 2 good players for a top 10 WR

Postby jwb32 » Fri May 17, 2019 12:46 pm

Gator Sens wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 12:14 pm
AresGodOWar wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 11:54 am
Goddard wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 11:40 am


x3
Thank you fellas , I felt shitty about it he said - Tommy, going forward I will no longer respond to lopsided trade offers. If it’s bad, I’ll just let it sit.
x4 - I'm not sure why the owner would be so upset about the offer. I personally never get offended by an offer, I simply decline and say not interested. We text a ton in my league about trades, so lots of good back and forth
The whole "I don't respond to offensive offers" is such BS. Just respond and move on. Its a freakin' game! Furthermore, calling this offer offensive, is more offensive than any offensive offer.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1Flex, 1TE, 1D/ST, 1K.
QBs- Rivers, Jackson
RBs- Mixon, Cook, Sanders, Montgomery, RoJo, Murray, Dexter W, Brian Hill
WRs- OBJ, Hilton, Cooks, Watkins, Crowder, Diontae Johnson, DMoore, Butler
TEs- McDonald, Fant, Waller, Rudolph
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Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Rodgers, Stafford, Foles
RBs- Cook, Guice, RoJo, Foreman, Edwards, DexterW, Armstead,
WRs- Adams, Cooks, Boyd, Coutee, Samuel, Gallup, Lee, DRobinson, Boykin, PWilliams
TEs- Howard, Hooper, Herndon

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Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Rivers,Stafford,Trubisky
RBs- Cook, Drake,Coleman,Penny, Murray, Adams. Harris
WRs- Evans, Allen, Diggs, Boyd, Sutton, Samuel, Crowder, Gallup, ZayJones, David Moore
TEs- Njoku,Waller,Swaim,Herndon,RSJ
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Re: 2 good players for a top 10 WR

Postby AresGodOWar » Fri May 17, 2019 9:09 pm

jwb32 wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 12:46 pm
Gator Sens wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 12:14 pm
AresGodOWar wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 11:54 am


Thank you fellas , I felt shitty about it he said - Tommy, going forward I will no longer respond to lopsided trade offers. If it’s bad, I’ll just let it sit.
x4 - I'm not sure why the owner would be so upset about the offer. I personally never get offended by an offer, I simply decline and say not interested. We text a ton in my league about trades, so lots of good back and forth
The whole "I don't respond to offensive offers" is such BS. Just respond and move on. Its a freakin' game! Furthermore, calling this offer offensive, is more offensive than any offensive offer.
Yup I hear you it's messed up , Well I'll never offer him another trade.
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QB-C.Newton, A.Dalton
RB-M.Gordon, D.Cook, K.Drake, A.Ekeler, J.Williams
WR-O.Beckham, D.Adams, M.Thomas, A.Brown, T.Boyd, D.Parker
TE-G.Kittle, D.Waller
Taxi-I.Thomas, L.Jackson, K.Ballage, J.Jackson

(TEAM 2) (Rebuild) 12 Team, .5 PPR
QB-M.Mariota
RB-J.Mixon, K.Drake, K.Hunt, TJ.Yeldon
WR-K.Golladay, T.Boyd, D.Westbrook, G.Allison, D.Parker
TE-J.Smith
Taxi-R.Jones, J.Washington, A.Mattison, I.Smith
Picks-6 2020 1sts , 3 2020 2nds

(TEAM 3) 12 Team, .15 PPC, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-D.Watson, L.Jackson
RB-J.Mixon, D.Cook, K.Drake, K.Ballage, G.Bernard, R.Anderson
WR-S.Diggs, K.Golladay, T.Boyd, T.Williams, D.Moncrief, G.Allison, D.Robinson
TE-G.Olsen, D.Waller, I.Thomas

(TEAM 4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPC, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, A.Dalton, J.Flacco
RB-E.Elliott, K.Johnson, K.Drake, K.Ballage, M.Davis, T.Pollard
WR-J.Smith-Schuster, K.Allen, D.Moncrief, G.Allison, D.Westbrook
TE-V.McDonald, T.Eifert


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Re: 2 good players for a top 10 WR

Postby Blueboy » Fri May 17, 2019 10:22 pm

Funnily enough I sent out a similar trade -- my KA and Brees (SFlex) for his Moore and Penny -- and got told told it wasn't anywhere close.

12 team SF, PPR, TE Premium, 0.25 PPcarry
1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 2Flex
QB: Mahomes, Cam, Trubisky
RB: Cook, Fournette, Michel, Miller, J. Jackson, D. Lewis, Foreman,
WR: Odell Beckham Jr., Jarvis Landry, Larry Fitzgerald, Marvin Jones, MVS, T Smith, Stills, Richardson
TE: Henry, Eifert, Sternberger, Hurst, Dissly


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