Willl Paris Campbell ever become a consistent asset in fantasy?

[Lumps]

The fact is that Campbell is exceedingly raw, not a good route runner and his YPR is shockingly low for such a "speedster".

Discussions of comparisons aside....

This is ignoring how he was used at Ohio. You can't complain about Edelman's yards per catch, when he's used to get 1st downs for that offense.

Campbell, as has been pointed out by PFF, was NOT targeted downfield despite his "speedster" status. He is indeed blazing fast, but they used McLauren in that role. I think Campbell only had a handful of downfield targets. He was basically used on crosses and hitches - yards per catch is irrelevant in this discussion.

[MrUbuto]

Yes.

He wasn't even on anyones radar as a top 12 prospect prior to the NFL draft. I think that's part of the problem. If he was mocked earlier I think he'd be in consideration as a top 3 dynasty asset.

I don't really think that's true. Do you mean a top 12 rookie pick or simply top 12 wr. Either way I dont think it's true.

I saw him as a top 3 or 4 wr pick in a lot of mocks

[MrUbuto]

Yes.

He wasn't even on anyones radar as a top 12 prospect prior to the NFL draft. I think that's part of the problem. If he was mocked earlier I think he'd be in consideration as a top 3 dynasty asset.

I don't really think that's true. Do you mean a top 12 rookie pick or simply top 12 wr. Either way I dont think it's true.

I saw him as a top 3 or 4 wr pick in a lot of mocks

[Forza_Azzurri]

I liked Campbell & Metcalf as the top two WRs this year ... when I was forced to decide, I chose Metcalf & am already kicking myself. I’ve heard so many former NFL personnel guys (Bill Pollian & Pat Kirwan are the two that come to mind) that I respect say he is the best WR in this class.

The metric that is thrown around all the time is that only two of his catches last year were on balls that traveled 20 yards down field ... but his problem was that he was not used properly at OSU; just like Michael Thomas.

[Cameron Giles]

I liked Campbell & Metcalf as the top two WRs this year ... when I was forced to decide, I chose Metcalf & am already kicking myself. I’ve heard so many former NFL personnel guys (Bill Pollian & Pat Kirwan are the two that come to mind) that I respect say he is the best WR in this class.

The metric that is thrown around all the time is that only two of his catches last year were on balls that traveled 20 yards down field ... but his problem was that he was not used properly at OSU; just like Michael Thomas.

I disagree with this. Michael Thomas problem wasn't that he was used improperly; it was that he didn't have enough volume. The way they used him was good. He ran a variety of routes. We just wanted to see it more.

Campbell wasn't used improperly. They played to his strengths near the LOS and prevented him from having to run a variety of routes which he's raw in.

[Dynasty DeLorean]

I liked Campbell & Metcalf as the top two WRs this year ... when I was forced to decide, I chose Metcalf & am already kicking myself. I’ve heard so many former NFL personnel guys (Bill Pollian & Pat Kirwan are the two that come to mind) that I respect say he is the best WR in this class.

The metric that is thrown around all the time is that only two of his catches last year were on balls that traveled 20 yards down field ... but his problem was that he was not used properly at OSU; just like Michael Thomas.

MT actually had a very high college dominator and average YPR. Campbell both on the low end. Not saying its the be all end all but on paper not really the same.

[Cult of Dionysus]

If anyone else would have gone to Indy in the 2nd round of the 2019 NFL Draft in Nashville Tennessee, he would likely be a top 3 rookie pick.

Hollywood, yes.
AJ Brown, yes.
DK3©one, yes.
Dweebo, yes.
Nkeal Harry, for sure.

[Forza_Azzurri]

I liked Campbell & Metcalf as the top two WRs this year ... when I was forced to decide, I chose Metcalf & am already kicking myself. I’ve heard so many former NFL personnel guys (Bill Pollian & Pat Kirwan are the two that come to mind) that I respect say he is the best WR in this class.

The metric that is thrown around all the time is that only two of his catches last year were on balls that traveled 20 yards down field ... but his problem was that he was not used properly at OSU; just like Michael Thomas.

I disagree with this. Michael Thomas problem wasn't that he was used improperly; it was that he didn't have enough volume. The way they used him was good. He ran a variety of routes. We just wanted to see it more.

Campbell wasn't used improperly. They played to his strengths near the LOS and prevented him from having to run a variety of routes which he's raw in.

If Michael Thomas didn’t receive enough targets, doesn’t that mean he wasn’t used properly?

[Cameron Giles]

I liked Campbell & Metcalf as the top two WRs this year ... when I was forced to decide, I chose Metcalf & am already kicking myself. I’ve heard so many former NFL personnel guys (Bill Pollian & Pat Kirwan are the two that come to mind) that I respect say he is the best WR in this class.

The metric that is thrown around all the time is that only two of his catches last year were on balls that traveled 20 yards down field ... but his problem was that he was not used properly at OSU; just like Michael Thomas.

I disagree with this. Michael Thomas problem wasn't that he was used improperly; it was that he didn't have enough volume. The way they used him was good. He ran a variety of routes. We just wanted to see it more.

Campbell wasn't used improperly. They played to his strengths near the LOS and prevented him from having to run a variety of routes which he's raw in.

If Michael Thomas didn’t receive enough targets, doesn’t that mean he wasn’t used properly?

Not really.

To me, I don't see anything that suggests Campbell wasn't used properly. They manufactured touches for him to hide his weaknesses.

[Phaded]

The fact is that Campbell is exceedingly raw, not a good route runner and his YPR is shockingly low for such a "speedster".

Discussions of comparisons aside....

This is ignoring how he was used at Ohio. You can't complain about Edelman's yards per catch, when he's used to get 1st downs for that offense.

Campbell, as has been pointed out by PFF, was NOT targeted downfield despite his "speedster" status. He is indeed blazing fast, but they used McLauren in that role. I think Campbell only had a handful of downfield targets. He was basically used on crosses and hitches - yards per catch is irrelevant in this discussion.

And he was used like that because of a massive deficiency in his talents. In other words, he cannot run routes. The fact that he is capable of that athletically but was not used downfield is a massive red flag in itself.

Campbell is a fine athlete, but is extremely raw and is a high-risk pick.

[ninotoreS]

Immediately after the real draft, I saw Campbell going mid-1st in rookie-drafts, so no, I don't think people are sleeping.

And he was used like that because of a massive deficiency in his talents. In other words, he cannot run routes. The fact that he is capable of that athletically but was not used downfield is a massive red flag in itself.

Campbell is a fine athlete, but is extremely raw and is a high-risk pick.

But aren't you high on Deebo? Much of this works as a critique of his prospect reality, too. Deebo and Parris have a lot in common as prospects.

And he was used like that [at Ohio State] because of a massive deficiency in his talents. In other words, he cannot run routes.

And be real careful of this assumption, btw -- don't make the mistake I made about Michael Thomas. To some extent, Urban Meyer's offense artificially restricted WRs' usage. It was true at Florida, too. Campbell has undeveloped elements to his craft because Meyer didn't care about developing them. That doesn't prove he can't, though.

[Pete Carroll's Gum]

I got drunk at my rookie draft (ugh). Traded tevin Coleman and 2020 1st (late) for 2.02, took Parris Campbell. Now that I’ve had time to think about it, not pleased haha.

[joeya2001]

so Deon Cain not a thing anymore?

[ninotoreS]

He's a thing, but from draft capital spent it's apparent Indy has greater expectations for Campbell.

[Goirish374]

Nope.

We are too high.

Campbell and Isabella are both being "May-bumped" above their station. There are legitimate concerns about Campbell's ability to play WR and those are not addressed by his landing spot.