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2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed May 01, 2019 12:48 pm

1. Nick Bosa (he’s already my DL9 in dynasty) - I’ve heard some say he’s a better pure prospect than his big brother. Even if he never hits that ceiling, he looks to be a consistent DL1 for the next few years, maybe like a Carlos Dunlap or Cameron Jordan.

2. Josh Allen - his floor is what we have seen from Leonard Floyd, but his ceiling is Demarcus Lawrence (EDIT: I’m hearing scuttlebutt that Jax may be switching to a 3-4?? This is news to me. Who knows...)

3. Clelin Ferrell - I’ve bumped Ferrell ahead of Burns, mostly because of some concerns I have with Burns. I see Clelin Ferrell as a very SAFE prospect. He probably won’t be Cameron Jordan, but he might be what we have gotten from Trey Flowers.

4. Quinnen Williams - Big time disrupter. Perhaps a smaller Deforest Buckner?

5. Brian Burns - His big knock coming out was his weight. He played at a smaller size than Kelvin Benjamin, for instance. Granted, he’s a very good athlete, but guys that rely all on speed can get pushed around easily (Vic Beasley, other than his one magical statistical year). I don’t love his college tape. I’m worried he doesn’t have the polish to be a full time edge player. (EDIT: Hearing 3-4 talk with Carolina as well. Welp, looks like I need to be listening to more rumors...)

6. Christian Wilkins - I comp him to Jurrell Casey. Not super sexy, but a very good player that might have ceiling years of double digit sacks.

7. Ed Oliver - High floor, and theoretically a high ceiling, but his pass rush has yet to develop. A more powerful yet not quite as polished version of Jonathan Allen.

8. LJ Collier - Not a fan. Almost as much of a reach as the Hawks’ 2018 first round gamble, Rashad Penny. They’re hoping he can play the Michael Bennett “Big End” role, but he’s just not very good. Maybe he is Vinny Curry?

9. Chase Winovich - Drafted quite a bit later than all these other dudes, but he’s got a very high floor. His white comp has always been Clay Matthews, & that’s a good one. Definitely has opportunity to get snaps right away in NE’s barren Edge group.

10. Jerry Tillery - Some have comp’d him to Buckner, due to the size, but that’s pretty darn lofty. Still tho, he’s got a great shot to put up some nice stats inside that Chargers’ 4-3 D, with Bosa & Ingram beside him.

Jeffery Simmons is a fantastic stash.

Rashan Gary might be an OLB in Green Bay, might be a DE (in terms of MFL classification). Either way, he’s raw. Just a stash IMO.

Keep an eye on Trysten Hill, if playing in any sort of DT-premium league. He’s got a lot of oppurtunity in Dallas.
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TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby jp4703 » Wed May 01, 2019 1:02 pm

So I'm assuming you believe Jax will use Josh Allen as a DE and not LB?

So far MFL has him as a LB which is making it hard to judge. I'm about to hit the second round of my draft so I might have to see what my defensive options are.
16 team - 42rosters - 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 1PK, 3DE/DL, 2DB, 2LB, 1DFLEX
QB: D. Brees, M. Stafford.
RB: L. Bell, D. Cook, J. Conner, M. Sanders, A. Blue, J. Ajayi, A. Barnes.
WR: M. Thomas, A.J. Green, J. Jones, C. Godwin, Z. Jones, J. Reynolds, K. Kirkwood, J. Moore, J. Hurd, T. Benjamin.
TE: Z. Ertz, J. Smith, M. Andrews, D. Waller, J. Sternberger.
K: M. Badgley.
DB: L. Collins, J. Johnson, J. Tart, C. Geathers, M. Blair.
DL: C. Dunlap, D. Barnett, J. Casey, B. Graham, G. McCoy, J. Allen.
LB: T. Whitehead, J. Hicks, J. Collins, J. Brown, K. White, G. Avery, C. Barton, B. Cashman, J. Ryan, J. Tavai, Q. Williams.
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Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed May 01, 2019 1:12 pm

jp4703 wrote: Wed May 01, 2019 1:02 pm So I'm assuming you believe Jax will use Josh Allen as a DE and not LB?

So far MFL has him as a LB which is making it hard to judge. I'm about to hit the second round of my draft so I might have to see what my defensive options are.
He was projected to be a better fit as a 3-4 OLB rather than a hand-in-dirt DE in a 4-3, which is why he’s currently listed almost everywhere as a LB. But I do not expect him to play off the ball. He did play off the ball a bit in college, but that’s not why Jax took him 7 overall, at least not in my opinion.

Some risk tho.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby millworkguy » Wed May 01, 2019 2:15 pm

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Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby saw061600 » Wed May 01, 2019 6:02 pm

Some are predicting Quiennen will do well, I assume well means top 24, even as DT in non DT premium leagues. You think that's true?
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Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed May 01, 2019 6:31 pm

saw061600 wrote: Wed May 01, 2019 6:02 pm Some are predicting Quiennen will do well, I assume well means top 24, even as DT in non DT premium leagues. You think that's true?
Yes, similar to Geno Atkins or Fletcher Cox only younger.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby TheBelgian » Wed May 01, 2019 7:09 pm

Thank you, Lukky. I drafted Darius Leonard last year after looking at your rankings a year ago. I've been waiting on these rankings since the draft ended.
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Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed May 01, 2019 7:21 pm

TheBelgian wrote: Wed May 01, 2019 7:09 pm Thank you, Lukky. I drafted Darius Leonard last year after looking at your rankings a year ago. I've been waiting on these rankings since the draft ended.
Thank you for the kind words, and for your patience! I hope I can be of assistance.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby lukkyseven » Thu May 02, 2019 4:22 am

Always appreciated OG Lukky ;).

My stash pick for the year (also a noted homer pick) is Jaylon Ferguson and I will be grabbing him late in as many drafts as I can this year.

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Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby jp4703 » Thu May 02, 2019 8:58 am

lukkynumber13 wrote: Wed May 01, 2019 1:12 pm
jp4703 wrote: Wed May 01, 2019 1:02 pm So I'm assuming you believe Jax will use Josh Allen as a DE and not LB?

So far MFL has him as a LB which is making it hard to judge. I'm about to hit the second round of my draft so I might have to see what my defensive options are.
He was projected to be a better fit as a 3-4 OLB rather than a hand-in-dirt DE in a 4-3, which is why he’s currently listed almost everywhere as a LB. But I do not expect him to play off the ball. He did play off the ball a bit in college, but that’s not why Jax took him 7 overall, at least not in my opinion.

Some risk tho.
I hope so because I just drafted him 2.11(28th overall) in my draft. Seems like he was falling in our draft since everyone was worried about the LB tag. So I felt it was a high risk high reward pick since I can use some youth and help at DE.
16 team - 42rosters - 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 1PK, 3DE/DL, 2DB, 2LB, 1DFLEX
QB: D. Brees, M. Stafford.
RB: L. Bell, D. Cook, J. Conner, M. Sanders, A. Blue, J. Ajayi, A. Barnes.
WR: M. Thomas, A.J. Green, J. Jones, C. Godwin, Z. Jones, J. Reynolds, K. Kirkwood, J. Moore, J. Hurd, T. Benjamin.
TE: Z. Ertz, J. Smith, M. Andrews, D. Waller, J. Sternberger.
K: M. Badgley.
DB: L. Collins, J. Johnson, J. Tart, C. Geathers, M. Blair.
DL: C. Dunlap, D. Barnett, J. Casey, B. Graham, G. McCoy, J. Allen.
LB: T. Whitehead, J. Hicks, J. Collins, J. Brown, K. White, G. Avery, C. Barton, B. Cashman, J. Ryan, J. Tavai, Q. Williams.
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2020: 2, 4, 4, 5
2021: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

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Postby Space Cowboy » Thu May 02, 2019 12:10 pm

How about Sweat? Surprised he's not here.

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Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby lukkynumber13 » Thu May 02, 2019 12:15 pm

Space Cowboy wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 12:10 pm How about Sweat? Surprised he's not here.
He’s almost sure to be an OLB, unless they decide to play him as a 3-4 end like Bosa in his rookie year.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby vtejrep » Thu May 02, 2019 2:04 pm

where are you drafting Bosa in Dynasty Rookie drafts? He is worth a pick in the late 1st?

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Re: 2019 ROOKIE Defensive Line rankings

Postby Space Cowboy » Thu May 02, 2019 2:33 pm

vtejrep wrote: Thu May 02, 2019 2:04 pm where are you drafting Bosa in Dynasty Rookie drafts? He is worth a pick in the late 1st?
He went 1.07 in my sack heavy league. Can you name 7 better prospects? Plus this is a 2 QB league. He went before Jones and Lock, rightfully so.


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