Marquise Brown is the best value in the draft

[Mr. Wizard]

Yeah, I’d say that’s the one positive — you might be able to get him towards the bottom of R1 again now, whereas he was gonna rocket to top 5 if he went that early almost anywhere else.

[Phaded]

I would still be all over Brown with a early-to-mid 1st.

If he slid to the back of the 1st, I'd be trying to acquire that rookie pick.

[Jigga94]

I didn't like Hollywood as a prospect (maybe a late 1st, but I doubt he falls there)
I don't like this landing spot for his fantasy value (definite 2nd rounder for me)
I don't like this as a Ravens fan

[bearsfan34]

I think it’s fair to expect Baltimore to dial up more passing attempts in Jackson’s second year. 500 seems more likely than the 400 he was on pace for as they patched things together on the fly last year. Considering the lack of talent around Brown, a 20% market share (coincidentally exactly Smoky Brown’s market share), for 100 targets, isn’t nuts. Consider that they’ll probably want to use him on bubble screens and tap passes to make Jackson’s life easier, and it’s a bit easier to see. Starting to feel like a value again.

It's hard to envision a scenario where Baltimore doesn't have Lamar throw more this year. First, there is the natural progression he'll make from being a rookie to his 2nd year (how much he progresses is up for debate). Almost as important is on paper the Ravens defence took a step back this offseason which means the strategy of running the ball 40 times a game and playing good defence might go out the window. I don't think it's a stretch to anticipate closer to 500 passing attempts for Lamar this year. Like the post above states, it's hard not to see Hollywood leading the team in targets given the lack of WR talent elsewhere on the squad. Would I take Hollywood in the top 5 of Rookie drafts? Probably not given where some of the other WR will land tonight. But I still think he can be a valuable fantasy asset at the right price.

[Cameron Giles]

I didn't like Hollywood as a prospect (maybe a late 1st, but I doubt he falls there)
I don't like this landing spot for his fantasy value (definite 2nd rounder for me)
I don't like this as a Ravens fan

:sad:

I still don't get how the first WR taken in the NFL Draft is a 2nd round rookie pick in fantasy. There just isn't any way that there are 12 better prospects than him in a class that isn't good to begin with.

We'll see what happens today, but at some point the fantasy community has to catch up to the WR that generated the most first round buzz in this class.

[Phaded]

The fantasy community knows better, don't you know this by now Cameron?

I could understand the logic if it was a stud loaded draft, MAYBE - but it is not.

[Cameron Giles]

The fantasy community knows better, don't you know this by now Cameron?

I could understand the logic if it was a stud loaded draft, MAYBE - but it is not.

Yeah, it's just perplexing. Like you said, if it was a loaded class, maybe, but it was a historically bad class for RBs and WRs selected in the first and Brown was taken 7 spots ahead of the next WR. If his ADP is still second round, then people are drafting poorly.

[djeternal2]

I still don't get how the first WR taken in the NFL Draft is a 2nd round rookie pick in fantasy. There just isn't any way that there are 12 better prospects than him in a class that isn't good to begin with.

We'll see what happens today, but at some point the fantasy community has to catch up to the WR that generated the most first round buzz in this class.

Be careful putting too much stock in the first WR taken in the NFL draft.

2012 - Justin Blackmon
2013 - Tavon Austin
2014 - Sammy Watkins
2015 - Amari Cooper
2016 - Corey Coleman
2017 - Corey Davis
2018 - DJ Moore

Not exactly a list of world beaters. So far best of the list is Amari and it drops off pretty heavily after that in terms of fantasy stats which is what we are talking about here.

[Servo]

Don't underestimate Mark Andrews in this offense.

[Ice]

100 plus targets as a rookie

This has truly zero chance of happening without Lamar Jackson making enormous second year strides as a passer.

More likely he gets 50, maybe 60, and that's already assuming he immediately plays well as a rookie.

You do realize the Ravens threw it 556 times last year. That was right in the middle of the pack. Thinking Brown will only get 50 or 60 targets borders on ridiculous IMO.

100 Targets is less than a 20% target share and is actually quite conservative IMO.

Targets are not receptions in case you misunderstood my post.

[xlur8ed]

I still don't get how the first WR taken in the NFL Draft is a 2nd round rookie pick in fantasy. There just isn't any way that there are 12 better prospects than him in a class that isn't good to begin with.

We'll see what happens today, but at some point the fantasy community has to catch up to the WR that generated the most first round buzz in this class.

Be careful putting too much stock in the first WR taken in the NFL draft.

2012 - Justin Blackmon
2013 - Tavon Austin
2014 - Sammy Watkins
2015 - Amari Cooper
2016 - Corey Coleman
2017 - Corey Davis
2018 - DJ Moore

Not exactly a list of world beaters. So far best of the list is Amari and it drops off pretty heavily after that in terms of fantasy stats which is what we are talking about here.

STOP with all your facts and sense making!!!!! The first WR take in the NFL draft HAS to be the best fantasy asset to own!

[Cameron Giles]

I still don't get how the first WR taken in the NFL Draft is a 2nd round rookie pick in fantasy. There just isn't any way that there are 12 better prospects than him in a class that isn't good to begin with.

We'll see what happens today, but at some point the fantasy community has to catch up to the WR that generated the most first round buzz in this class.

Be careful putting too much stock in the first WR taken in the NFL draft.

2012 - Justin Blackmon
2013 - Tavon Austin
2014 - Sammy Watkins
2015 - Amari Cooper
2016 - Corey Coleman
2017 - Corey Davis
2018 - DJ Moore

Not exactly a list of world beaters. So far best of the list is Amari and it drops off pretty heavily after that in terms of fantasy stats which is what we are talking about here.

I'm not saying that being the 1st WR selected guarantees some level of production. But, all the players you listed went high first round in rookie drafts. That's the point I'm making. This draft is not deep enough to consider Brown a 2nd round rookie pick. It's ridiculous.

[Cameron Giles]

I still don't get how the first WR taken in the NFL Draft is a 2nd round rookie pick in fantasy. There just isn't any way that there are 12 better prospects than him in a class that isn't good to begin with.

We'll see what happens today, but at some point the fantasy community has to catch up to the WR that generated the most first round buzz in this class.

Be careful putting too much stock in the first WR taken in the NFL draft.

2012 - Justin Blackmon
2013 - Tavon Austin
2014 - Sammy Watkins
2015 - Amari Cooper
2016 - Corey Coleman
2017 - Corey Davis
2018 - DJ Moore

Not exactly a list of world beaters. So far best of the list is Amari and it drops off pretty heavily after that in terms of fantasy stats which is what we are talking about here.

STOP with all your facts and sense making!!!!! The first WR take in the NFL draft HAS to be the best fantasy asset to own!

It's going to be comical watching people take 4th round RBs over Brown.

[Jason3123]

100 plus targets as a rookie

This has truly zero chance of happening without Lamar Jackson making enormous second year strides as a passer.

More likely he gets 50, maybe 60, and that's already assuming he immediately plays well as a rookie.

You do realize the Ravens threw it 556 times last year. That was right in the middle of the pack. Thinking Brown will only get 50 or 60 targets borders on ridiculous IMO.

100 Targets is less than a 20% target share and is actually quite conservative IMO.

Targets are not receptions in case you misunderstood my post.

The Ravens threw 556 times. Lamar Jackson threw 198 times. In half those games. He will not throw the ball 550 times.

[Ice]

This has truly zero chance of happening without Lamar Jackson making enormous second year strides as a passer.

More likely he gets 50, maybe 60, and that's already assuming he immediately plays well as a rookie.

You do realize the Ravens threw it 556 times last year. That was right in the middle of the pack. Thinking Brown will only get 50 or 60 targets borders on ridiculous IMO.

100 Targets is less than a 20% target share and is actually quite conservative IMO.

Targets are not receptions in case you misunderstood my post.

The Ravens threw 556 times. Lamar Jackson threw 198 times. In half those games. He will not throw the ball 550 times.

I get They may not throw as much but it is laughable if you really believe the Jackson will not increase attempts this season. Pretty sure they will come in very close to the 500 attempts number which will be just over 30 attempts per game.

100 targets is 6.25 per game. Breakdown where you actually think those targets will come from with that cast of characters