Juju for Hopkins

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Juju for Hopkins

Postby Big_J_All_Day_77 » Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:34 am

What would need to be attached to Juju to acquire Hopkins. Working a deal however the owner is unreasonable (at least in my eyes).
Team 1: 12 team, 1 pt PPR

QB: Winston, Jimmy G, Luck
RB: Barkley, Howard, Drake, Rojo, Justin Jackson
WR: Juju, Tyreek, Amari, C. Davis, Sutton, Pettis
TE: Olsen, Goedert, Ian Thomas
Taxi Squad: JJAW, Keelan Doss, Dawson Knox, Preston Williams

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Re: Juju for Hopkins

Postby Gator Sens » Fri Apr 05, 2019 4:50 am

I'm guessing a mid to late 1st
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12 Team, PPR, 30 roster: 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 FLEX, 1 DST, 1 K
QB: Patrick Mahomes, Drew Brees, Josh Allen
RB: Alvin Kamara, Dalvin Cook, Nick Chubb, Leonard Fournette, Joe Mixon, Derrius Guice, Alexander Mattison, Ryquell Armstead, Rodney Anderson
WR: Kenny Golladay, Chris Godwin, Calvin Ridley, Courtland Sutton, Dede Westbrook, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk, Mike Williams, Josh Reynolds, Equanimeous St. Brown
TE: Mark Andrews, O.J. Howard, David Njoku, Greg Olsen, Ian Thomas

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Re: Juju for Hopkins

Postby killer_of_giants » Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:17 am

owning hopkins, i would want something in the range of juju + mixon (maybe slightly less), which would probably seem unreasonable to many, but hey!
my asset, my price.

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Re: Juju for Hopkins

Postby Indygator » Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:24 am

really depends on team needs...as a Hopkins owner i would want a solid starting RB for my particular team and even then I would really struggle with parting with him. I also have Watson so I wouldn't personally be looking to trade Hopkins unless i got a killer deal i couldn't turn down.
QB: A. Rodgers, D. Watson, B. Mayfield
RB: J. Jacobs, D. Henry, C. Hyde, J. Hill, I. Smith
WR: D. Adams, D. Hopkins, S. Diggs, Hollywood Brown, D. Thomas, J. Landry, M. Lee, R. Anderson, JJAW
TE: D. Waller, J. Graham, Njoku, G. Olsen, J. Smith,

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Re: Juju for Hopkins

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:47 am

I would have zero motivation to go from Hopkins to JuJu, unless I was getting a top 2-3 pick on top. Or a pair of 2020 Firsts.
TEAM A - 12 teams (2018 champ, 2017 R/U)
BREES, Jimmy G, Rivers, Dalton
COOK/JACOBS/GURLEY, Shady, Gio, Gallman, Walton, Ollison, D Washington, Scarlett, Foreman, Ware, Rodney A
NUK/HILL/EVANS/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Edelman, Alshon, Sammy, P Campbell, JJAW, Wims, Dez
KITTLE, OJ Howard, Herndon, Eifert
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league
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TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get slight bump in scoring (1st year league, tanking this year to build through 2020 draft)
DARNOLD, Carr, Rosen, Eli, Tyrod
KAMARA/MIXON, Hines, L Miller
NUK/EVANS/OBJ/K ALLEN/HOLLYWOOD, Coutee, Latimer
ANDREWS/NJOKU, Ian Thomas, James O
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Danielle Hunter, Ngakoue, and then a bunch of maybes for IDP

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Re: Juju for Hopkins

Postby Duke Nuk’em » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:48 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:47 am
I would have zero motivation to go from Hopkins to JuJu, unless I was getting a top 2-3 pick on top. Or a pair of 2020 Firsts.
Agreed. And in this draft that probably won't be enough

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Re: Juju for Hopkins

Postby Stronglikebear » Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:50 pm

I prefer JuJu over Hopkins in dynasty currently. I understand I am against the grain.

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Re: Juju for Hopkins

Postby bsacks13 » Sat Apr 20, 2019 8:42 am

lukkynumber13 wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:47 am
I would have zero motivation to go from Hopkins to JuJu, unless I was getting a top 2-3 pick on top. Or a pair of 2020 Firsts.
As a nuk owner myself, I feel this same sentiment.
Team 1
Behind The Wall Fantasy Football League
10 Team 1pt PPR. Dynasty League Format.
Gotham City Jokers: 2019 6-3
QB: P. Rivers, M. Mariota, J. Brissett
RB: M. Mack, J. Howard, M. Gordon III, R. Jones II, M. Walton
WR: J. Jones, D. Hopkins, M. Evans, S. Shephard, D. Jackson, J. Brown
TE: D. Fells, D. Walker, J. Witten
K: H. Butker
DST: JAX, DAL
IR: D. Njoku

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12 Team 1pt PPR. Dynasty League Format.
Gotham City Jokers: 2019 4-5
QB: J. Allen, D. Haskins
RB: L. Bell, D. Williams, D. Guice, A. Peterson, I. Smith
WR: J. Jones, G. Tate, M. Williams, N. Harry, D. Parker, J. Crowder
TE: D. Walker, M. Gesicki, C. Herndon
K: R. Gould, S. Hauschka
IR: L. Miller

Team 3
Graterford FFL
12 Team. Standard Scoring
Jokers: 2019 4-5
QB: M. Stafford, A. Dalton, B. Hoyer
RB: J. Mixon, M. Mack, M. Ingram, P. Barber, R. Jones III
WR: JuJu. Smith, T. Lockett, D.J. Chark, G. Tate
TE: D. Walker, E. Ebron
K: W. Lutz, J. Lambo
DST: JAX, IND

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Re: Juju for Hopkins

Postby murphysxm » Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:46 am

Stronglikebear wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:50 pm
I prefer JuJu over Hopkins in dynasty currently. I understand I am against the grain.

I don't think you are against the grain, I believe you are on an island all by yourself! Hopkins is not getting moved unless you massively overpay.

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Re: Juju for Hopkins

Postby Duke Nuk’em » Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:06 pm

murphysxm wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2019 10:46 am
Stronglikebear wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:50 pm
I prefer JuJu over Hopkins in dynasty currently. I understand I am against the grain.

I don't think you are against the grain, I believe you are on an island all by yourself! Hopkins is not getting moved unless you massively overpay.
Completely agree. And I don’t this a top pick in this draft is close to enough.

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Re: Juju for Hopkins

Postby greenbird » Sat May 04, 2019 1:11 pm

I moved Hopkins for Adams and Campbell. I think Hopkins, Adams, and JuJu are all about the same.

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Re: Juju for Hopkins

Postby Kittenmittens » Thu May 16, 2019 2:51 pm

I also prefer Juju by a wide margin.

Their expected production is pretty close, maybe Hopkins is 15 percent better.

I see Juju as having another 9 years of elite fantasy production. I see Hopkins with 3 or 4 more years, and about to lose value steadily as he ages. 15 percent more expected points doesn't make up for the longevity and value retention of Juju in my eyes.

Hopkins is about to go over the age cliff. Now is the time to sell. 2 years ago, Julio Jones, Antonio Brown and AJ Green were 27 years old at the top of the rankings. Now they are 3rd or 4th round picks because they got a few years older.

In 2 years, Juju owners will laugh at a Hopkins offer.

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Re: Juju for Hopkins

Postby lukkynumber13 » Thu May 16, 2019 3:34 pm

Kittenmittens wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 2:51 pm
I also prefer Juju by a wide margin.

Their expected production is pretty close, maybe Hopkins is 15 percent better.

I see Juju as having another 9 years of elite fantasy production. I see Hopkins with 3 or 4 more years, and about to lose value steadily as he ages. 15 percent more expected points doesn't make up for the longevity and value retention of Juju in my eyes.

Hopkins is about to go over the age cliff. Now is the time to sell. 2 years ago, Julio Jones, Antonio Brown and AJ Green were 27 years old at the top of the rankings. Now they are 3rd or 4th round picks because they got a few years older.

In 2 years, Juju owners will laugh at a Hopkins offer.
This is some dangerous thinking.
TEAM A - 12 teams (2018 champ, 2017 R/U)
BREES, Jimmy G, Rivers, Dalton
COOK/JACOBS/GURLEY, Shady, Gio, Gallman, Walton, Ollison, D Washington, Scarlett, Foreman, Ware, Rodney A
NUK/HILL/EVANS/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Edelman, Alshon, Sammy, P Campbell, JJAW, Wims, Dez
KITTLE, OJ Howard, Herndon, Eifert
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league
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TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get slight bump in scoring (1st year league, tanking this year to build through 2020 draft)
DARNOLD, Carr, Rosen, Eli, Tyrod
KAMARA/MIXON, Hines, L Miller
NUK/EVANS/OBJ/K ALLEN/HOLLYWOOD, Coutee, Latimer
ANDREWS/NJOKU, Ian Thomas, James O
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Danielle Hunter, Ngakoue, and then a bunch of maybes for IDP

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Re: Juju for Hopkins

Postby Kittenmittens » Thu May 16, 2019 5:23 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 3:34 pm
Kittenmittens wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 2:51 pm
I also prefer Juju by a wide margin.

Their expected production is pretty close, maybe Hopkins is 15 percent better.

I see Juju as having another 9 years of elite fantasy production. I see Hopkins with 3 or 4 more years, and about to lose value steadily as he ages. 15 percent more expected points doesn't make up for the longevity and value retention of Juju in my eyes.

Hopkins is about to go over the age cliff. Now is the time to sell. 2 years ago, Julio Jones, Antonio Brown and AJ Green were 27 years old at the top of the rankings. Now they are 3rd or 4th round picks because they got a few years older.

In 2 years, Juju owners will laugh at a Hopkins offer.
This is some dangerous thinking.
It's just playing the odds. The only thing that is guaranteed to happen here is Hopkins is guaranteed to lose dynasty value as he approaches and turns 30. Elite production won't change that. Even if Juju does not maintain elite production, barring a very unlikely event he will be much more valuable than Hopkins in 2 years.

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Re: Juju for Hopkins

Postby Duke Nuk’em » Sat May 18, 2019 11:05 am

Kittenmittens wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 2:51 pm
Hopkins is about to go over the age cliff. Now is the time to sell. 2 years ago, Julio Jones, Antonio Brown and AJ Green were 27 years old at the top of the rankings. Now they are 3rd or 4th round picks because they got a few years older.
This is what is making Julio, AB, Green and soon Hopkins steals. I’ll happily take them in the 3rd or 4th. But I personally haven’t seen them later than the 2nd, 3rd for Green.


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