John Ross: reports of his demise are greatly exaggerated.
Re: John Ross Buy Low?
Haggling's gotta start somewhere, and that's only one round back from the target price.
Unless you're suggesting Ross is worth a 2nd? I just can't agree with that, personally. I hit with my 2nds on a regular basis, and I judge Ross at this point to be lower percentage than what I typically land in the 2nd.
A buy low is a buy low. Ofc if the owner doesn't want to sell low, a buy low won't happen.
Fine point about Boyd's contract. But I can't imagine the Bengals won't make re-signing him a priority unless Ross truly blows up in '19, and how likely does that seem? And even then, I feel like they'd still want to keep Boyd.
Unless you're suggesting Ross is worth a 2nd? I just can't agree with that, personally. I hit with my 2nds on a regular basis, and I judge Ross at this point to be lower percentage than what I typically land in the 2nd.
A buy low is a buy low. Ofc if the owner doesn't want to sell low, a buy low won't happen.
Fine point about Boyd's contract. But I can't imagine the Bengals won't make re-signing him a priority unless Ross truly blows up in '19, and how likely does that seem? And even then, I feel like they'd still want to keep Boyd.
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Why Bother, He is a one trick pony with bad hammy's and suspect hands.
Anyone really think he could ever be a WR1 on any team in this league? He looks to have been drafted to stretch the field to free up the real play-makers. Never much like that offensive strategy.
Anyone really think he could ever be a WR1 on any team in this league? He looks to have been drafted to stretch the field to free up the real play-makers. Never much like that offensive strategy.
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Re: John Ross Buy Low?
Who did they have to replace Jones and Sanu when they both left? Their replacement plan at RT was a total bust in 2017. They’re cheap and have been for a while.ninotoreS wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:45 pm Haggling's gotta start somewhere, and that's only one round back from the target price.
Unless you're suggesting Ross is worth a 2nd? I just can't agree with that, personally. I hit with my 2nds on a regular basis, and I judge Ross at this point to be lower percentage than what I typically land in the 2nd.
A buy low is a buy low. Ofc if the owner doesn't want to sell low, a buy low won't happen.
Fine point about Boyd's contract. But I can't imagine the Bengals won't make re-signing him a priority unless Ross truly blows up in '19, and how likely does that seem? And even then, I feel like they'd still want to keep Boyd.
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Re: John Ross Buy Low?
Interestingly enough Chris Johnson does not believe John Ross truly beat his time at the combine.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/chri ... d-have-it/
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/chri ... d-have-it/
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Well to his credit it took them usually long time to get his time posted and when run simulcam CJ clearly beats him head to headArrylT wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:04 pm Interestingly enough Chris Johnson does not believe John Ross truly beat his time at the combine.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/chri ... d-have-it/
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Very true - it doesnt detract from the fact that John Ross is very fast. Just found it interesting that CJ2K felt that way but I can definitely see why.KingsKing wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:06 pmWell to his credit it took them usually long time to get his time posted and when run simulcam CJ clearly beats him head to headArrylT wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:04 pm Interestingly enough Chris Johnson does not believe John Ross truly beat his time at the combine.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/chri ... d-have-it/
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I'd buy on pretty much any high upside talent for a 3rd or 4th. That's not saying much though.
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He is a buy low, gonna sell low forever guy, imho.
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Yeah, why not. On catchable targets he's proven still quick enough to win early. Could play a Cooks-lite role if he sticks in Cincy and he's not too expensive to speculate...
Sadly I was on Ross as a rookie in the late first/early second (PPR non-SF), so I admit there may be some pride/bias influencing my (lukewarm) opinion.
Sadly I was on Ross as a rookie in the late first/early second (PPR non-SF), so I admit there may be some pride/bias influencing my (lukewarm) opinion.
Re: John Ross Buy Low?
A 3rd seems about right. As an owner in some small number of places, I wouldn't sell for that though. He had what, 7 TDs on 21 catches? He'd obviously break Moss' record with a full workload.
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Agree, just as soon use a 3rd round pick on an upside TE and sit on that type of player.Cult of Dionysus wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:30 pm He is a buy low, gonna sell low forever guy, imho.
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Hmm. Bringing up Jones and Sanu's example is another good point. But neither of them broke out for Cincy quite as clearly as Boyd just did.ericanadian wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:22 pm Who did they have to replace Jones and Sanu when they both left? Their replacement plan at RT was a total bust in 2017. They’re cheap and have been for a while.
Worth noting that Mike Brown and Duke Tobin are still the guys in charge of these decisions. So that also supports your point.
I bet you're unaware that 5 of his 7 TDs were targets at the goal-line. He was very productive at the goal-line with UW, too. The 'one trick' you're probably referring to -- vertical targets -- wasn't much in evidence last year.
Also it was his groin that was a problem, not his hammy. According to this, he has zero significant hamstring injuries since 2014.
Hands were definitely bad last season. You got that right, at least. Frustrating, since his drop-rate was 5% in college (better than Mike Williams).
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Re: John Ross Buy Low?
It would certainly be nice to see what he could do with a full healthy season and a reasonable amount of targets (say 100).
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Hammy/ Groin......Hard to keep with all this players injuriesninotoreS wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:04 pmHmm. Bringing up Jones and Sanu's example is another good point. But neither of them broke out for Cincy quite as clearly as Boyd just did.ericanadian wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:22 pm Who did they have to replace Jones and Sanu when they both left? Their replacement plan at RT was a total bust in 2017. They’re cheap and have been for a while.
Worth noting that Mike Brown and Duke Tobin are still the guys in charge of these decisions. So that also supports your point.
I bet you're unaware that 5 of his 7 TDs were targets at the goal-line. He was very productive at the goal-line with UW, too. The 'one trick' you're probably referring to -- vertical targets -- wasn't much in evidence last year.
Also it was his groin that was a problem, not his hammy. According to this, he has zero significant hamstring injuries since 2014.
Hands were definitely bad last season. You got that right, at least. Frustrating, since his drop-rate was 5% in college (better than Mike Williams).
Let's see, I remember a labrum, and surgery on both knees, one being an ACL and a groin, as you say, which if memory serves he aggravated it multiple times. On top of all that he really struggles catching the ball. I took him off my draft board when he was a rookie and never owned him or even thought about buying him.
Personally, I could care less if scores a few TD's. Don't mind anyone owning him but he is the type of player I would never roster. He will cost more losses than wins in a starting fantasy line up due to his wild inconsistency in my book. Never more than 3 catches in a game and only 20 on 53 targets for a paltry 209 yards. 8 of 12 games played in single digit scoring.
No thank you on Ross.... EVER. well, maybe in a best ball league if I ever decide to play in another one of those.
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Re: John Ross Buy Low?
Ross recently was released in my league ... some mitigating circumstances that led to his release. He was acquired in dispersal draft with a high salary cap figure & new owners could drop one player w/o penalty. But now that he’s available, he’s a pretty interesting free agent/auction pick up.
I’m a Mixon owner, so I HAVE to believe the Bungles offense gets better ... with that, maybe Ross can live up to his hype.
I’m a Mixon owner, so I HAVE to believe the Bungles offense gets better ... with that, maybe Ross can live up to his hype.
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