2019 NFL combine predictions/talk thread

[Jigga94]

So I'm seeing now that Henderson's official time on his 2nd run was 4.49, not the 4.37 that I saw on TV? Man how did they mess up the unofficial time that badly?

You know how how much of a real time difference that is right? Lol snap ya fingers

[Dynasty DeLorean]

So I'm seeing now that Henderson's official time on his 2nd run was 4.49, not the 4.37 that I saw on TV? Man how did they mess up the unofficial time that badly?

Was gonna say, he did not look like a 4.3 guy

[Orenthal Shames]

Henderson coming in heavier than I thought and still running well is a plus.

Holyfield should have skipped running and pass drills. If there's even a hint of you running a 4.8 and you can't catch worth a lick, why even do it?

*Random sidenote I read: EH wasn't even born yet when Tyson bit his Dad's ear. That made me feel real old.

[UATahoe]

Wow, thanks man. That now makes me feel the same. Lol

[Bot101]

Wow, thanks man. That now makes me feel the same. Lol

Yeah same here. I remember seeing that live.

[Orenthal Shames]

Wow, thanks man. That now makes me feel the same. Lol

Yeah same here. I remember seeing that live.

I'd imagine nearly everyone old enough to watch it did as well.

[briank]

I don’t really think anybody has “flipped out” in this thread. At least I haven’t read anything like that. I mean it’s a fun thing to say but it doesn’t seem to be present in this thread.

Sure flipped out is a little hyperbolic, but people seem to be surprised about Holyfield's 40 and catching ability, even though he doesn't win with speed and was never going to run a fast 40 and is never used in the passing game. These results shouldn't be a surprise.

[briank]

It amazes me that leading up to the draft all I hear is how the combine is overrated and how we should take these tests with a grain of salt only for people to flip out at some results.

We need SOMETHING to satisfy our football addictions. Ooooo that fast guy ran fast and aaahhhh that long and explosive athlete jumped high and Nooooo the slow guy ran slow!
I do think the numbers help a lot to confirm what we are seeing, or give us pause if we thought we saw something different. It can also lead us down the wrong road. Some fast testing athletes don't play that way *ahem Gesicki

I agree that a different result than what we thought makes us pause, but I didn't see much of that today. These guys basically did what I expected them to do. I also think it's way too early to count Gesicki out.

[Vcize]

So I'm seeing now that Henderson's official time on his 2nd run was 4.49, not the 4.37 that I saw on TV? Man how did they mess up the unofficial time that badly?

You know how how much of a real time difference that is right? Lol snap ya fingers

So they're hand timing the time on the TV? In 2019 they don't have a way to broadcast the electronic time in realtime?

Bizarre. I can't imagine a hand timed result would very often be even close to the electronic one. But in years past I don't remember this many guys that they were off so massively (by more than a tenth of a second) on. What is the point in even showing a time live on TV when it can vary that much?

[FantasyFreak]

Was wondering why Hill didn't do the 3 cone. Just saw he pulled his hammy in the 40.

[lukkynumber13]

I don’t really think anybody has “flipped out” in this thread. At least I haven’t read anything like that. I mean it’s a fun thing to say but it doesn’t seem to be present in this thread.

Sure flipped out is a little hyperbolic, but people seem to be surprised about Holyfield's 40 and catching ability, even though he doesn't win with speed and was never going to run a fast 40 and is never used in the passing game. These results shouldn't be a surprise.

That’s because he didn’t just run a bad 40, he ran an almost historically TERRIBLE 40.

4.79 is slow for a middle linebacker. 4.79 is what fullbacks run. Nobody was expecting him to run that bad. Reminds me of Ricky Seals Jones a few years ago (although his was even worse, I think 4.9x)

If Holyfield had run somewhere between 4.58-4.65, we would have all shrugged and said “ok, well nobody was counting on him to be a sprinter, oh well!” - similar to David Montgomery.

[Cameron Giles]

Holyfield is 5'10, 217 and ran a 4.8. Just for comparison, O.J. Howard is 6'6, 250 and ran a 4.51. Vance McDonald is 6'4, 267 and ran a 4.69. The fact that Holyfield is slower than a lot of TE's is really, really alarming. It's rare for 40 times to earn or lose players a significant difference in cash, but Holyfield probably lost a lot of money today.

He'll probably run faster at his pro day because everyone does, but it won't matter.

[Forza_Azzurri]

Yeah...that's the danger in only using stats. I like playerprofiler quite a bit...but damn. All you had to do was turn on ANY tape of Gesicki and you could see he was just NOT an explosive player. Or you could go on the college forums and see that the fans HATED him for all his screw-ups and semmingly nonchalant attitude on the field.

So you're saying we wasted our 3rd rd pick on a dud gym shorts workout warrior Sunnavavich

I saw him going early 2nd round

Oh that’s right ... TEs are always great right away at the start of their careers.

[Dynasty DeLorean]

So I'm seeing now that Henderson's official time on his 2nd run was 4.49, not the 4.37 that I saw on TV? Man how did they mess up the unofficial time that badly?

You know how how much of a real time difference that is right? Lol snap ya fingers

So they're hand timing the time on the TV? In 2019 they don't have a way to broadcast the electronic time in realtime?

I could be wrong on this but from what I understand the start is hand timed but the finish is electronic? Again, I could be wrong but I thought it was a mix between the two.

That’s because he didn’t just run a bad 40, he ran an almost historically TERRIBLE 40.


If Holyfield had run somewhere between 4.58-4.65, we would have all shrugged and said “ok, well nobody was counting on him to be a sprinter, oh well!” - similar to David Montgomery.

What I don't understand is if you have a good chance to be drafted and you know you're that slow, why run the 40? Not running couldn't be worse than running and getting what he got.

[Orenthal Shames]

You know how how much of a real time difference that is right? Lol snap ya fingers

So they're hand timing the time on the TV? In 2019 they don't have a way to broadcast the electronic time in realtime?

I could be wrong on this but from what I understand the start is hand timed but the finish is electronic? Again, I could be wrong but I thought it was a mix between the two.

That’s because he didn’t just run a bad 40, he ran an almost historically TERRIBLE 40.


If Holyfield had run somewhere between 4.58-4.65, we would have all shrugged and said “ok, well nobody was counting on him to be a sprinter, oh well!” - similar to David Montgomery.

What I don't understand is if you have a good chance to be drafted and you know you're that slow, why run the 40? Not running couldn't be worse than running and getting what he got.

^This. If it's a drill he wasn't super confident in, why chance it. Seems like far more to lose than gain, unless he was going to run unexpectedly fast.

I have a friend who is a former collegiate track athlete who now coaches HS. Was picking her brain on his performance. She said his form was really bad. His position was upright too early and he was trying to accelerate from that high position.

Purely anecdotal and she doesn't follow football whatsoever, so take it with a grain of salt. Just found her perspective interesting.