Sutton deal

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Sutton deal

Postby Broncopain » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:54 pm

In a sf would you trade sutton, daeshawn hamilton and pettis for shepherd, 1.04 and the 2.12?

Ppr leagur. Im torn but im also a big bronco fan so that may be shading my judgement.

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Re: Sutton deal

Postby Panthers357 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:18 pm

I’d prefer Sutton side
Team 1 Fleaflicker 12 Team Half PPR Start 9 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1TE, 1Flex RB, WR,TE 1Def, 1K
QB- A Rich , Stafford, Mac Jones, Minshew
RB- Taylor, Etienne, Ekeler, K Walker, Fournette, k miller, foreman, TDP
WR- ARSB, Adams, Evans, Marquise brown, Burks Gallup, Alec Pierce, Boutte
TE Kittle, Waller, Pitts, t kraft
K- nick folk , moody, Maher
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QB a rich, Kyler, Cousins, Brissett
RB Bijan, Pacheco, jerrick McKinnon, Melvin Gordon, Hubbard, Jaylen Warren
Wr jsn, z flowers, Mike Evans, a cooper, aj brown, skyy moore, Pickens, Christian Watson, John metchie
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Re: Sutton deal

Postby BradysBunch » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:24 pm

Sutton side. I really don't think it is close.
9(yes 9) team / 28 man rosters
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SF/PPR
QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/TE/flex/SF
Mahomes/TLAW/Fields
N. Harris/J. Williams/Gibbs/CEH/A. Jones/Hubbard/Haskins/Ingram
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Re: Sutton deal

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:18 am

BradysBunch wrote: Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:24 pm Sutton side. I really don't think it is close.
What? in a SF 1.04 easily over Sutton, he was not that good, and I was super high on him a few years ago. Shepard is on par with Pettis for me, or better, and the rest, meh, BUT as a Hamilton owner, I'd gladly take 2.12 over him. That's how I see it. I like Pettis, but also think Sterling Shepard could have a Golden Tate minus type of FA deal, where he goes somewhere else a becomes more of a target. 1.04 over Sutton by quite a bit for me. He showed little ability to separate, dropped some very catchable balls, is in a bad situation, and honestly I'd rather take a shot on these rookie WR's who are coming in a year and a half younger than he did.

I would gladly take this deal OP. Be real, you have 2 WR's that aren't elite prospects with Case Keenum, and or a rookie QB. Meanwhile, it's bound to happen that a rookie in the top 4 lands in a juicy spot, and your 1.04 will be worth Sutton plus (it is already by half a round IMO, is an SF). I'd take it.

Breaking it down

1.04>Sutton
Shepard=Pettis
2.12>Hamilton

The main part of this deal is the Sutton vs 1.04, but Sutton does not look like a guy who will be a new NFL dominant X receiver. He doesn't have the route running, or hands to make plays on all parts of the field. He was very much a bubble screen/jump ball guy in college, and I saw no progression in year 1 from that. I really soured on his Dynasty potential and sold this off season, and I was high on him in college, but he is the same guy from 2 years ago when I liked him. I just don't see WR1 in his outcome. Maybe WR2. Maybe he gets it together, but he wasn't a young rookie coming in, and I want those guys to be more polished, like Ridley, if they do. He's still "learning" how to run simple routes, and that's not good going on 24, IMO.
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Re: Sutton deal

Postby Jigga94 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:49 am

I like what FF has said above. I'd much rather have the pick than Sutton. I like the other 2 WR though and think I'd rather keep Pettis than Shepard at this point. Hamilton for the 2nd is whatever to me

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Re: Sutton deal

Postby AresGodOWar » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:49 am

Sutton > 1.04
Pettis = Shepard
Hamilton > 2.12

I love Sutton but I'm starting to come around on Hamilton because of people here pointed out Keenum loves his slot WRs and Hamilton outplayed Sutton bad the last 4 weeks when he came back.
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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Re: Sutton deal

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:54 am

I would hold what you have. Everything I ready, the QB's are not supposed to be overly talented this year outside of a couple.

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Re: Sutton deal

Postby PhillySpecial » Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:56 am

Sutton side for me.
10 Team. PPR. 25 player roster. 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex, 1 SF, 1D
QB - Justin Herbert. Anthony Richardson. Geno Smith. Sam Howell.
RB - Saquon Barkley. JK Dobbins. Tony Pollard. Leonard Fournette. Kareem Hunt. Devin Singletary. Zamir White. Tyjae Sharp. Jaylen Warren. Jerome Ford. Zach Evans. Chris Rodriquez.
WR - AJ Brown. DK Metcalf. Chris Godwin. Deebo Samuel. Amon Ra St Brown. Courtland Sutton.
TE - Darren Waller. Pat Freiermuth. Evan Engram.

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Re: Sutton deal

Postby BigBawseRoss » Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:02 am

in a sf you want 1.04 but i would drop pettis and shepard. make it hamilton and sutton for 1.04 and 2.12
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

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1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Sutton deal

Postby gga001 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:40 am

I'd take the 1.04 side in a SF...value of that pick is going to rise the closer we get to the draft, I think it's the best piece. Don't really care about Hamilton.

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Re: Sutton deal

Postby Goddard » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:08 am

I'm not sure this being a SF changes the value of the 1.04 much, unless you think you get the top QB with that pick and that top QB will be good.

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Re: Sutton deal

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:13 am

BigBawseRoss wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:02 am in a sf you want 1.04 but i would drop pettis and shepard. make it hamilton and sutton for 1.04 and 2.12
I like this idea. Honestly I think I like Pettis more than Sutton.
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Re: Sutton deal

Postby AresGodOWar » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:13 am

Welp Flacco to Den. Means I just got higher on Sutton and lower on Hamilton lol
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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Re: Sutton deal

Postby JDogil12 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:45 am

I'm not giving up Sutton and Pettis, especially considering Flacco news

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Re: Sutton deal

Postby Johnny Canuck » Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:38 am

I like the Sutton side.

Flacco will be better for Sutton than Case.

Regarding Hamilton, while Flacco doesn't target the slot as highly as Case, Flacco still gave Snead 8 targets/game last yr, which is almost 130 per yr, so I think Hamilton will still be a fine ppr play.

The only guy I'd be really be worried about would be Pettis. I think AB will in SF which could significantly impact the breakout of Pettis.

Even with that considered, I still think I'd rather the Sutton side.


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