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Sutton deal
In a sf would you trade sutton, daeshawn hamilton and pettis for shepherd, 1.04 and the 2.12?
Ppr leagur. Im torn but im also a big bronco fan so that may be shading my judgement.
Ppr leagur. Im torn but im also a big bronco fan so that may be shading my judgement.
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Re: Sutton deal
I’d prefer Sutton side
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Re: Sutton deal
Sutton side. I really don't think it is close.
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Re: Sutton deal
What? in a SF 1.04 easily over Sutton, he was not that good, and I was super high on him a few years ago. Shepard is on par with Pettis for me, or better, and the rest, meh, BUT as a Hamilton owner, I'd gladly take 2.12 over him. That's how I see it. I like Pettis, but also think Sterling Shepard could have a Golden Tate minus type of FA deal, where he goes somewhere else a becomes more of a target. 1.04 over Sutton by quite a bit for me. He showed little ability to separate, dropped some very catchable balls, is in a bad situation, and honestly I'd rather take a shot on these rookie WR's who are coming in a year and a half younger than he did.
I would gladly take this deal OP. Be real, you have 2 WR's that aren't elite prospects with Case Keenum, and or a rookie QB. Meanwhile, it's bound to happen that a rookie in the top 4 lands in a juicy spot, and your 1.04 will be worth Sutton plus (it is already by half a round IMO, is an SF). I'd take it.
Breaking it down
1.04>Sutton
Shepard=Pettis
2.12>Hamilton
The main part of this deal is the Sutton vs 1.04, but Sutton does not look like a guy who will be a new NFL dominant X receiver. He doesn't have the route running, or hands to make plays on all parts of the field. He was very much a bubble screen/jump ball guy in college, and I saw no progression in year 1 from that. I really soured on his Dynasty potential and sold this off season, and I was high on him in college, but he is the same guy from 2 years ago when I liked him. I just don't see WR1 in his outcome. Maybe WR2. Maybe he gets it together, but he wasn't a young rookie coming in, and I want those guys to be more polished, like Ridley, if they do. He's still "learning" how to run simple routes, and that's not good going on 24, IMO.
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Re: Sutton deal
I like what FF has said above. I'd much rather have the pick than Sutton. I like the other 2 WR though and think I'd rather keep Pettis than Shepard at this point. Hamilton for the 2nd is whatever to me
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Re: Sutton deal
Sutton > 1.04
Pettis = Shepard
Hamilton > 2.12
I love Sutton but I'm starting to come around on Hamilton because of people here pointed out Keenum loves his slot WRs and Hamilton outplayed Sutton bad the last 4 weeks when he came back.
Pettis = Shepard
Hamilton > 2.12
I love Sutton but I'm starting to come around on Hamilton because of people here pointed out Keenum loves his slot WRs and Hamilton outplayed Sutton bad the last 4 weeks when he came back.
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Re: Sutton deal
I would hold what you have. Everything I ready, the QB's are not supposed to be overly talented this year outside of a couple.
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Re: Sutton deal
Sutton side for me.
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RB - Saquon Barkley. JK Dobbins. Tony Pollard. Leonard Fournette. Kareem Hunt. Devin Singletary. Zamir White. Tyjae Sharp. Jaylen Warren. Jerome Ford. Zach Evans. Chris Rodriquez.
WR - AJ Brown. DK Metcalf. Chris Godwin. Deebo Samuel. Amon Ra St Brown. Courtland Sutton.
TE - Darren Waller. Pat Freiermuth. Evan Engram.
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Re: Sutton deal
in a sf you want 1.04 but i would drop pettis and shepard. make it hamilton and sutton for 1.04 and 2.12
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1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
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Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
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J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
Re: Sutton deal
I'd take the 1.04 side in a SF...value of that pick is going to rise the closer we get to the draft, I think it's the best piece. Don't really care about Hamilton.
Re: Sutton deal
I'm not sure this being a SF changes the value of the 1.04 much, unless you think you get the top QB with that pick and that top QB will be good.
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Re: Sutton deal
I like this idea. Honestly I think I like Pettis more than Sutton.BigBawseRoss wrote: ↑Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:02 am in a sf you want 1.04 but i would drop pettis and shepard. make it hamilton and sutton for 1.04 and 2.12
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Re: Sutton deal
Welp Flacco to Den. Means I just got higher on Sutton and lower on Hamilton lol
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TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett
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QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
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Re: Sutton deal
I'm not giving up Sutton and Pettis, especially considering Flacco news
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Re: Sutton deal
I like the Sutton side.
Flacco will be better for Sutton than Case.
Regarding Hamilton, while Flacco doesn't target the slot as highly as Case, Flacco still gave Snead 8 targets/game last yr, which is almost 130 per yr, so I think Hamilton will still be a fine ppr play.
The only guy I'd be really be worried about would be Pettis. I think AB will in SF which could significantly impact the breakout of Pettis.
Even with that considered, I still think I'd rather the Sutton side.
Flacco will be better for Sutton than Case.
Regarding Hamilton, while Flacco doesn't target the slot as highly as Case, Flacco still gave Snead 8 targets/game last yr, which is almost 130 per yr, so I think Hamilton will still be a fine ppr play.
The only guy I'd be really be worried about would be Pettis. I think AB will in SF which could significantly impact the breakout of Pettis.
Even with that considered, I still think I'd rather the Sutton side.
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