Sneaky QB Sleepers - 2019

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Sneaky QB Sleepers - 2019

Postby Prison_Mike » Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:52 am

Any guys that could have sneaky value in 2019?

Maybe guys that don't have a starting role at the moment but have a clearer path to a starting job than others?

Examples:

Tyrod?
Dobbs/Rudolf?
Mullens?
Joseph "Elite" Flacco?


Who do you guys expect?
Team 1:
12-team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Herbert, Kyler, Baker, Jimmy G, Mariota, DTR
RB: Taylor, Saquon, Javonte, Conner, C.Evans, TDP
WR: Chase, Diggs, Olave, Aiyuk, Hollywood, MT, Shaheed
TE: Engram, Woods, Kraft
'24 picks: 1st, 3rd, 4th

Team 2:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
(Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF)
QB: Mahomes, Allen, Russ
RB: Breece, JT, Swift, Javonte, Mostert
WR: Chase, Kupp, Aiyuk, Nico, Hollywood, Kirk, MT
TE: Pitts, Njoku, Woods
'24 picks: none

Team 3:
12tm PPR SuperFlex
QB: Hurts, Dak, Stafford, Z.Wilson, DTR
RB: Saquon, Swift, Achane, Kamara, Ford
WR: Jefferson, AJB, ARSB, Nico, Diontae, OBJ
TE: Goedert, Njoku, Fant, Woods
'24 picks: 4th, 4th

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Re: Sneaky QB Sleepers - 2019

Postby Big Al » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:15 am

Teddy Bridgewater is cheap/free. He could very well be starting for someone next year.

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Re: Sneaky QB Sleepers - 2019

Postby Johnny Canuck » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:23 am

Josh Rosen is a sneaky QB sleeper.

I don't think he'll make the jump to starter territory but he could be a bye week fill in.

This offense was putrid, running the least amount of plays in the league, and Wilks/McCoy are now gone.

Kliff Kingsbury is coming from college and bringing in an air raid style offense that also incorporates easy completions to his WRs on the edge. Give this article a read if you want to know more about Kingsbury and his scheme.

https://thedraftnetwork.com/2019/01/09/ ... velopment/

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Re: Sneaky QB Sleepers - 2019

Postby Prison_Mike » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:58 am

Johnny Canuck wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:23 am Josh Rosen is a sneaky QB sleeper.

I don't think he'll make the jump to starter territory but he could be a bye week fill in.

This offense was putrid, running the least amount of plays in the league, and Wilks/McCoy are now gone.

Kliff Kingsbury is coming from college and bringing in an air raid style offense that also incorporates easy completions to his WRs on the edge. Give this article a read if you want to know more about Kingsbury and his scheme.

https://thedraftnetwork.com/2019/01/09/ ... velopment/
Thanks for the info - will look out for Rosen as a buy-low (already rostered)

Btw - just spent entirely too much time on that website (draftnetwork) & I see that continuing lol
Team 1:
12-team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Herbert, Kyler, Baker, Jimmy G, Mariota, DTR
RB: Taylor, Saquon, Javonte, Conner, C.Evans, TDP
WR: Chase, Diggs, Olave, Aiyuk, Hollywood, MT, Shaheed
TE: Engram, Woods, Kraft
'24 picks: 1st, 3rd, 4th

Team 2:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
(Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF)
QB: Mahomes, Allen, Russ
RB: Breece, JT, Swift, Javonte, Mostert
WR: Chase, Kupp, Aiyuk, Nico, Hollywood, Kirk, MT
TE: Pitts, Njoku, Woods
'24 picks: none

Team 3:
12tm PPR SuperFlex
QB: Hurts, Dak, Stafford, Z.Wilson, DTR
RB: Saquon, Swift, Achane, Kamara, Ford
WR: Jefferson, AJB, ARSB, Nico, Diontae, OBJ
TE: Goedert, Njoku, Fant, Woods
'24 picks: 4th, 4th

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Re: Sneaky QB Sleepers - 2019

Postby Servo » Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:49 am

- Flacco, Foles, Tannehill, Dalton: all guys who should probably have jobs next season...whether as a full-time or bridge QB.

- Bridgewater: I think he was an average QB when he was healthy and I imagine that's what he'll continue to be...now whether he's starter material? I think I'd believe teams would rather take a chance on Flacco, Foles and even a Tannehill or Dalton (if he becomes available).

- Mullens: SF's QB coach just became Denver's OC...could be a longshot...but that same guy brought Mullens to Shanahan's attention. The kid had some really good games + some meh ones but I think he showed enough to be a starter in this league....he ended up with above average passing stats for a bad 49ers team. Besides TD/INT, his numbers are very similar to Baker Mayfield's....not saying that Mullens is better or equal but still something of note.

- Tyrod: we saw how much better Cleveland was without him than with him...sure some of that can be blamed on Jackson/Haley but Tyrod didn't better his case.

- Rudolph: should already be rostered and I think if he's given the chance, he could be a starter.

- Fitzmagic: he cannot be killed with traditional weapons and somehow finds a way to play some games here and there.
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With Haskins, Lock, Jones and Murray all "supposedly" being taken/mocked in Round 1...a lot of these guys who get signed may not have a very long leash until the rookies get thrown to the wolves.

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Re: Sneaky QB Sleepers - 2019

Postby Paul717 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:52 am

Servo wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:49 am
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With Haskins, Lock, Jones and Murray all "supposedly" being taken/mocked in Round 1...a lot of these guys who get signed may not have a very long leash until the rookies get thrown to the wolves.
This is a solid point. If you are in a deep league (16 teams +) and relying on a "bridge" QB as your bye week guy...you'd better hope the bye week is early. The leash is sooooo short these days. My QB2 is Case Keenum in a 16 team league, which essentially means I need to be looking for another QB.
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QB: Jordan Love, Deshaun Watson
RB: Travis Etienne, Aaron Jones, Jamaal Williams, Kendre Miller, Jaleel McLaughlin, Sean Tucker, Deuce Vaughn
WR: A.J. Brown, Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, Calvin Ridley, Michael Wilson, Kendrick Bourne, Tutu Atwell, Allen Lazard, Isaiah Hodgins, Xavier Hutchinson
TE: T.J. Hockenson, Cole Kmet, Kylen Granson
K: Didn't make the playoffs in 2023 :cry: , and don't usually hold one in the offseason
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2024: All my picks except 3rd rounder

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Re: Sneaky QB Sleepers - 2019

Postby clarion contrarion » Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:50 pm

the correct answer of course is none of the above - all the vets are uninspiring and
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Re: Sneaky QB Sleepers - 2019

Postby KingsKing » Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:59 pm

Big Al wrote: Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:15 am Teddy Bridgewater is cheap/free. He could very well be starting for someone next year.
If your ok with 8ppg from a starting QBs then fine.

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Re: Sneaky QB Sleepers - 2019

Postby ericanadian » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:57 pm

Derek Carr might have some upside. Not sure if you can still get him cheap, but he seemed to be nore comfortable in the offense as the season progressed and the weapons available to him can only improve.
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RB - Swift, Hall, Penny, Bigsby, Ford
WR - Pittman, Olave, Di. Johnson, G. Wilson, J. Williams, Metchie, Robinson, M. Wilson
TE - Okonkwo, Schoonmaker
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Re: Sneaky QB Sleepers - 2019

Postby Phaded » Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:42 pm

I think it depends what you are looking for by "sneaky QB sleepers".
In the original post, I have a hard time seeing those guys having value even in a Superflex.

Right now; just looking at the rankings there are three guys who jump out at me to have a productive fantasy season in 2019. Winston (ranked 13th), Dak (ranked 18th) and Josh Allen (ranked 22nd).

I think any of these three have a very strong chance of finishing substantially higher than where they are ranked.

NOTE: I am talking about fantasy production, so don't feed me the "so and so is inaccurate or not good" crap. I am well aware of the public opinion on these three guys.

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Re: Sneaky QB Sleepers - 2019

Postby mild » Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:38 pm

I look into my crystal ball, and I just see Foles on the Jaguars. It makes way too much sense - the DeFillipo thing feels like smoke to the fire.

I think he'd be an excellent fit there. That WR core is good and young, and just waiting for the right trigger man.

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Re: Sneaky QB Sleepers - 2019

Postby grandmabetty » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:23 am

Matthew Stafford finished QB #19 last year. The 2 years previous to that he was a top 5 scoring QB. His stock is in the cellar right now but I could see him rebounding back to be a top 10 QB

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Re: Sneaky QB Sleepers - 2019

Postby dawgDYNASTY » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:04 am

Rookie sleepers i like:

Ryan Finley N.C State
Jarret Stidham Auburn
Brett Rypien Boise State

Active players who could increase(or just likely on the market):
Nick Foles
Teddy Bridgewater
Joe Flacco
Ryan Tannehill
Tyrod Taylor
Jacoby Brissett

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Re: Sneaky QB Sleepers - 2019

Postby AZK » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:50 am

Tyree Jackson - QB Univ of Buffalo if he goes to the right place.
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Re: Sneaky QB Sleepers - 2019

Postby ericanadian » Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:39 pm

grandmabetty wrote: Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:23 am Matthew Stafford finished QB #19 last year. The 2 years previous to that he was a top 5 scoring QB. His stock is in the cellar right now but I could see him rebounding back to be a top 10 QB
I agree with this because a lot of people seem to think the offense will be more rushing focused. While hopefully true, it should help the offensive line play and the line was the main reason he was terrible this season.

In his five games against teams in the top ten for sacks:

111/171 64.9% 926 Yards (185.2 Yards per game) 5.4 ypa 2 TDs 4 Ints 21 Sacks

In the eleven games against everyone else:

256/384 66.7% 2,851 Yards (259.2 Yards per game) 7.4 ypa 19 TDs 7 Ints 19 Sacks
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QB - Stafford, Stroud, Tune
RB - Swift, Hall, Penny, Bigsby, Ford
WR - Pittman, Olave, Di. Johnson, G. Wilson, J. Williams, Metchie, Robinson, M. Wilson
TE - Okonkwo, Schoonmaker
LB - Brooks, R. Smith, Phillips
DL - Crosby, Allen, Simmons
DB - D. James, Baker, Delpit
K - Just a stupid kicker


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