OBJ for Luck 2qb update: Trade Completed

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Which side in 2qb?

Poll ended at Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:13 am

Luck+
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80%
Beckham
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20%
 
Total votes: 15

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OBJ for Luck 2qb update: Trade Completed

Postby fantasyhermit » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:13 am

Thanks for the responses all. I took the offer. I improved my QBs without spending a QB, which should give me enough ammo to try and use one of those qbs to upgrade again.
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12 team SF PPR/2PPR TE Prem, .2 ppc
Q-SF-R-W-F-F-F-F-T-T
QB: Wilson, Cousins, Fitz, Flacco, Lock
RB: Jacobs, CEH, DJ, Dillon, Michel, Royce, Lewis, Bruce Anderson, Gus, Warren
WR: MT, Amari, Kupp, Pittman, Miller, Agholor, John Brown, Enunwa, Foster, Wilson, Preston Williams, AB
TE: Kelce, Kittle, Tonyan, Davis, Dissly, Knox, T.Moss


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Q-SF-R-R-W-W-F-F-T-T-D-K-IDP-IDP PPR
QB: Mahomes, TLaw, Darnold, Bridgewater
RB: Zeke, Swift, Singletary, Dillon, Mack, Penny, LMurray
WR: MT, DJ Moore, Sutton, Slayton, Tyler Boyd, Mims, Edwards, Van Jefferson, Miller
TE: Gesicki, Hooper, Knox
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Re: OBJ for Luck 2qb

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:15 am

Never played SF but seems like Luck would be a huge piece to get, but I don't know the values of none QB's at all in this type of league format

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Re: OBJ for Luck 2qb

Postby BucFanJKE » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:55 am

I would want a better piece than Snead on the Luck side to trade away Odell even in a 2 QB league. The gap isn't huge for me, but it's more than Snead.
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QB- Richardson, Dak, Watson, Bennett, Zappe
RB- Achane, Mixon, Ekeler, Javonte Williams, Mostert, Dobbins, Gibson, Bigsby, Spears, Gainwell
WR- Chase, Lamb, London, Pittman, QJ, Bateman, MT, OBJ, Skyy
TE- Freiermuth, Kincaid, Chig, Fant, Musgrave, Woods, Bellinger
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QB: J. Allen, Kyler, Stroud
RB: CMC, Bijan, Gibbs, JT, Breece Hall, Kamara, Gibson, 4nette
WR: Diggs, Hill, AJB, Aiyuk, London, JSN, Hollywood, M.Mims, Meyers, Shaheed
TE: Kelce, Kyle Pitts, Dulcich, Logan Thomas
2024: 2 1st (one top 3), 4th

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QB: J. Allen, Dak, Young
RB: Gibbs, Hall, J. Cook, Warren, Bigsby, K. Mitchell, Dobbins, D. Cook,
WR: Lamb, Wilson, Olave, Higgins, London, JSN, Bateman, Wan'Dale, Z. Jones, Hyatt
TE: Kittle, Kincaid, Woods, Likely
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Re: OBJ for Luck 2qb

Postby myndflyte » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:58 am

BucFanJKE wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:55 am I would want a better piece than Snead on the Luck side to trade away Odell even in a 2 QB league. The gap isn't huge for me, but it's more than Snead.
I agree with this. I think it's close but I'd want something better than Snead.
12 team 0.5 pt PPR; 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex
QB: Rodgers, Prescott, Lauletta (R)
RB: Gordon, Ajayi, Collins, Yeldon, Ekeler, Martin, Grant, Mizzell, David Williams, Jeffery Wilson, Warren
WR: Cooks, Boyd, Marvin Jones, Lockett, Coleman, Doctson, Goodwin, Cobb, T. Williams, Z. Jones, Roberts, Tate (R), Cain (R), Ellington, Cody Core, Beebe
TE: Kelce, Cook, Conklin, LaCosse
2019 Picks: 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5

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QB: Newton, Stafford, Bortles, Kessler
RB: Hunt, Mixon, Lewis, Ekeler, Thompson, Bernard, Davis, Blount
WR: Evans, Lockett, Marvin Jones, Sanders, Lee, Pettis, Crabtree, Cole, Ateman, Lasley
TE: Rudolph, Seals-Jones
DL: Jordon, Ingram
LB: Jarrad Davis, Alonso, Avery Williamson, Warner, Van Noy, Golden, Baker, Shaun Dion Hamilton
DB: Poyer, Kazee, Collins, Jenkins, Cyprien
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Re: OBJ for Luck 2qb

Postby FantasyFoosball » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:00 am

You don't need Snead. In a 2QB league, and based on your roster, I'd rather have Luck than OBJ, BUT, since the other owner reached out to you and offered Luck+, I would ask for a better piece than Snead.
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QB - Mahomes
RB - CMC, White, Sanders, Herbert, Foreman, McKinnon
WR - Diggs, Ridley, Godwin, KJ Osborn, Woods, Claypool, Campbell
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki
K - Bass
DL - Reddick, Jones, M. Sweat
LB - R. Smith, Wagner, Leonard, White, Perryman, Cashman
DB - Byard, Bell, Hobbs, Jenkins

2024: 3rd

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14 Team PPR SF/TE Premium (2PPR)
2020: 4th Place
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1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1SF, 2Flex
QB - Allen, Carr, Mayfield, Trask, Zappe
RB - Harris, Gibson, Herbert, K. Miller, C. Brown
WR - MT, G. Davis, Bourne, Skyy Moore, Reynolds, Shakir, A.T. Perry, C. Moore, Hinton
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Woods

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Re: OBJ for Luck 2qb

Postby RB6 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:00 am

In a 2QB Luck is worth more than OBJ. So, anything on top of Luck is gravy. Though I'd ask for a 3rd instead of Snead. If that doesn't work, I'd simply take the original offer.
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LJax, Burrow, Carr, Huntley, Heinicke, Cunningham
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, Kirk, Wiliams, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Hodgins, Hutchinson
CMC, Barkley, Mostert, Ford, Moss, Dobbins, Dillon, Kelley, Tucker
Andrews, Higbee

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Mahomes, Purdy, Dalton, Henicke, Trask, Zappe
Henry, Pacheco, Robinson, Wilson, Ford, Chandler, Deuce
Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
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Walker, J Cook, Miller, Zamir, Rodriguez, Carter, Penny
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Re: OBJ for Luck 2qb

Postby Dynasty_Analyst » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:27 am

Haven't played superflex thinking about venturing into it next season but I have a hard time thinking luck is worth more than obj straight up like some people are saying. From superflex rankings I've seen besides mahomes and rodgers the qbs usually start going after pick 17 or so. So that would put luck what right around 17-23. Obj is worth more than that I would think but like I said don't play superflex. Obj is still a top 10 asset without a doubt
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Re: OBJ for Luck 2qb

Postby Dynasty_Analyst » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:27 am

Haven't played superflex thinking about venturing into it next season but I have a hard time thinking luck is worth more than obj straight up like some people are saying. From superflex rankings I've seen besides mahomes and rodgers the qbs usually start going after pick 17 or so. So that would put luck what right around 17-23. Obj is worth more than that I would think but like I said don't play superflex. Obj is still a top 10 asset without a doubt
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Re: OBJ for Luck 2qb

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:32 am

Luck > Beckham in 2QB
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QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
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Re: OBJ for Luck 2qb

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:33 am

embe5291 wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:27 am Haven't played superflex thinking about venturing into it next season but I have a hard time thinking luck is worth more than obj straight up like some people are saying. From superflex rankings I've seen besides mahomes and rodgers the qbs usually start going after pick 17 or so. So that would put luck what right around 17-23. Obj is worth more than that I would think but like I said don't play superflex. Obj is still a top 10 asset without a doubt
The only people who rank top-tier QBs in the late 2nd round of a startup superflex draft are people who have never played superflex. Also, the importance and value of QBs in 2QB >> superflex >> 1QB. Luck >> Beckham in 2QB.
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Re: OBJ for Luck 2qb

Postby moishetreats » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:04 am

Let's be 100% clear (if it's not already): 2QB leagues and Superflex leagues are NOT the same.

10-team, 2QB league: Luck >> OBJ. Easily.
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball

QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble

2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th



12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball

QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186

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Re: OBJ for Luck 2qb

Postby fantasyhermit » Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:33 am

Thanks for all the responses folks. Seems a mixed bag leaning towards Luck.

I accepted the offer, and am now just waiting for the commish to execute.
Team 1:
12 team SF PPR/2PPR TE Prem, .2 ppc
Q-SF-R-W-F-F-F-F-T-T
QB: Wilson, Cousins, Fitz, Flacco, Lock
RB: Jacobs, CEH, DJ, Dillon, Michel, Royce, Lewis, Bruce Anderson, Gus, Warren
WR: MT, Amari, Kupp, Pittman, Miller, Agholor, John Brown, Enunwa, Foster, Wilson, Preston Williams, AB
TE: Kelce, Kittle, Tonyan, Davis, Dissly, Knox, T.Moss


Team 2:
Q-SF-R-R-W-W-F-F-T-T-D-K-IDP-IDP PPR
QB: Mahomes, TLaw, Darnold, Bridgewater
RB: Zeke, Swift, Singletary, Dillon, Mack, Penny, LMurray
WR: MT, DJ Moore, Sutton, Slayton, Tyler Boyd, Mims, Edwards, Van Jefferson, Miller
TE: Gesicki, Hooper, Knox
Def: Chi
K: Elliot
IDP: Bosa, LVE, Flowers

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Re: OBJ for Luck 2qb

Postby JDogil12 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:40 am

You cant look at rankings for SF because most analysts dont have much experience with the format. In saying that, Luck=OBJ but your roster probably should lean Luck

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Re: OBJ for Luck 2qb

Postby FantasyFoosball » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:19 pm

embe5291 wrote: Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:27 am Haven't played superflex thinking about venturing into it next season but I have a hard time thinking luck is worth more than obj straight up like some people are saying. From superflex rankings I've seen besides mahomes and rodgers the qbs usually start going after pick 17 or so. So that would put luck what right around 17-23. Obj is worth more than that I would think but like I said don't play superflex. Obj is still a top 10 asset without a doubt
There is a big difference between a SF league and a 2QB league. This is a 2QB league, not SF. QB's are valued higher in 2QB leagues than in SF leagues.

The reasoning for this is that in a SF league you can start 2 QB's, but you don't HAVE to. In a 2QB league, you HAVE TO start 2 QB's.

If you are thinking about venturing into it next season, then you really need to start doing some major research and soon. Too many people that are new to those leagues make the mistake of not wanting to overvalue QB's, and then they end up vastly undervaluing them.

Luck is worth more than OBJ in a 2QB. To be honest, I don't think I've ever not taken a QB with my first two picks.
Team One:
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2018: Champions!
2019: Champions!!
2020: 2nd Place
2021: Loss in Semis
2022: Champions!!!
.5 PPR/$200 budget
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB, 3 DL/LB/DB

QB - Mahomes
RB - CMC, White, Sanders, Herbert, Foreman, McKinnon
WR - Diggs, Ridley, Godwin, KJ Osborn, Woods, Claypool, Campbell
TE - Kittle, Goedert, Gesicki
K - Bass
DL - Reddick, Jones, M. Sweat
LB - R. Smith, Wagner, Leonard, White, Perryman, Cashman
DB - Byard, Bell, Hobbs, Jenkins

2024: 3rd

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2020: 4th Place
2021: 2nd Place
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QB - Allen, Carr, Mayfield, Trask, Zappe
RB - Harris, Gibson, Herbert, K. Miller, C. Brown
WR - MT, G. Davis, Bourne, Skyy Moore, Reynolds, Shakir, A.T. Perry, C. Moore, Hinton
TE - Kittle, Andrews, Woods

2024: 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: OBJ for Luck 2qb

Postby Dirty Mike&the Boys » Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:23 pm

This is easily Luck, anyone saying otherwise hasn't played SF or 2QB before. As someone suggested though, I would try to swap out Snead for a 3rd. Snead is worthless.
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QB - | Rodgers | Herbert | Mills
RB - CMC | Chubb | Dobbins | Keaontay Ingram
WR - McLaurin | Deebo | Waddle | Gabriel Davis | Elijah Moore | Mooney | C Ridley | Jameson Williams | Pickens | Alec Pierce | Wan'dale Robinson | Justyn Ross | B Edwards
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