Rob Gronkowski - how do you value him these days?

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Re: Rob Gronkowski - how do you value him these days?

Postby PR0v3 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:28 pm

Shcritters wrote: Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:14 pm Sorry if this is the wrong forum (and I’m going to post it in team advice also)... would you trade Hurst, a 3rd, and Richard for Gronk? TE Super Premium league and need a TE for the stretch run and just lost O.J. I think Gronk will play the rest of this and next year, but after that he’s probably done.

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I think Gronk is done after this year and I’d still do that trade.
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Re: Rob Gronkowski - how do you value him these days?

Postby ArrylT » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:27 pm

This trade went down in one of my leagues so you can see that the combination of panic & lousy markets can cause weird deals

Booker, Carson, R. Grant & Gronkowski

for

Ware, Goodwin, D. Hamilton & Dissly.
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Re: Rob Gronkowski - how do you value him these days?

Postby KCLep20 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:06 pm

Considering OJ just went to IR, I’m really hoping for one last ‘ship before he retires.
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Re: Rob Gronkowski - how do you value him these days?

Postby DynastyDog » Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:10 am

I traded for him. I am currently in first place and already had Kelce. I traded a M
2-2019 1st (middle to late)
2019-3rd
for
1.1 or 1.2,
Gronk, and Vic Beasley.

I did not need Gronk to win but I made this trade to keep him from the 2nd place team that needed a TE and also to get a higher 1st this year.

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Re: Rob Gronkowski - how do you value him these days?

Postby Pullo Vision » Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:11 am

DynastyDog wrote: Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:10 am I traded for him. I am currently in first place and already had Kelce. I traded a M
2-2019 1st (middle to late)
2019-3rd
for
1.1 or 1.2,
Gronk, and Vic Beasley.

I did not need Gronk to win but I made this trade to keep him from the 2nd place team that needed a TE and also to get a higher 1st this year.
Wait. You gave 2 mid or late firsts for Gronk, Beasley and either the 1.1 or 1.2? Seems there's a piece you gave missing.
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Re: Rob Gronkowski - how do you value him these days?

Postby jcc6fd » Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:42 am

ArrylT wrote: Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:27 pm This trade went down in one of my leagues so you can see that the combination of panic & lousy markets can cause weird deals

Booker, Carson, R. Grant & Gronkowski

for

Ware, Goodwin, D. Hamilton & Dissly.
Carson alone is worth more than everything owner A got back...
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Re: Rob Gronkowski - how do you value him these days?

Postby DynastyDog » Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:40 am

Pullo Vision wrote: Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:11 am
DynastyDog wrote: Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:10 am I traded for him. I am currently in first place and already had Kelce. I traded a M
2-2019 1st (middle to late)
2019-3rd
for
1.1 or 1.2,
Gronk, and Vic Beasley.

I did not need Gronk to win but I made this trade to keep him from the 2nd place team that needed a TE and also to get a higher 1st this year.
Wait. You gave 2 mid or late firsts for Gronk, Beasley and either the 1.1 or 1.2? Seems there's a piece you gave missing.
With our roster position requirements I felt I would be able to move Gronk at the draft in the offseason and also be able to keep him off of the 2nd place teams roster. We have 3-4 Teams with major TE needs and really only Fant projected as a high TE coming out. With moving up in the draft I figured a 2019 Draft Package of Harry, Brown, and Gronk were going to better then Harry/Brown, 1.8, and 1.12.

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Re: Rob Gronkowski - how do you value him these days?

Postby jomaed » Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:49 am

DynastyDog wrote: Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:10 am I traded for him. I am currently in first place and already had Kelce. I traded a M
2-2019 1st (middle to late)
2019-3rd
for
1.1 or 1.2,
Gronk, and Vic Beasley.

I did not need Gronk to win but I made this trade to keep him from the 2nd place team that needed a TE and also to get a higher 1st this year.
The 1.1 or 1.2 is worth more than a mid to late 1st and a 3rd. I am not understanding how you got Gronk and Vic on top of that???? Maybe Pullo and I are missing something...

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Re: Rob Gronkowski - how do you value him these days?

Postby DynastyDog » Sat Nov 24, 2018 8:12 am

jomaed wrote: Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:49 am
DynastyDog wrote: Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:10 am I traded for him. I am currently in first place and already had Kelce. I traded a M
2-2019 1st (middle to late)
2019-3rd
for
1.1 or 1.2,
Gronk, and Vic Beasley.

I did not need Gronk to win but I made this trade to keep him from the 2nd place team that needed a TE and also to get a higher 1st this year.
The 1.1 or 1.2 is worth more than a mid to late 1st and a 3rd. I am not understanding how you got Gronk and Vic on top of that???? Maybe Pullo and I are missing something...
Gotcha. I thought you were thinking I overpaid for him. I don’t have any intention of having him on my roster next season. I backed Kelce up with Harris and plan on moving Gronk this offseason. That was strictly a defensive trade this season.

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Re: Rob Gronkowski - how do you value him these days?

Postby hockeyBjj » Sat Nov 24, 2018 8:50 am

Hoping he still has enough in his tank. I traded Ertz in a TE Premium league for Mike Evans and Gronk

I had no TE2, and am on a championship run if this doesn't screw me over
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Re: Rob Gronkowski - how do you value him these days?

Postby Pullo Vision » Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:27 am

DynastyDog wrote: Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:40 am
Pullo Vision wrote: Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:11 am
DynastyDog wrote: Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:10 am I traded for him. I am currently in first place and already had Kelce. I traded a M
2-2019 1st (middle to late)
2019-3rd
for
1.1 or 1.2,
Gronk, and Vic Beasley.

I did not need Gronk to win but I made this trade to keep him from the 2nd place team that needed a TE and also to get a higher 1st this year.
Wait. You gave 2 mid or late firsts for Gronk, Beasley and either the 1.1 or 1.2? Seems there's a piece you gave missing.
With our roster position requirements I felt I would be able to move Gronk at the draft in the offseason and also be able to keep him off of the 2nd place teams roster. We have 3-4 Teams with major TE needs and really only Fant projected as a high TE coming out. With moving up in the draft I figured a 2019 Draft Package of Harry, Brown, and Gronk were going to better then Harry/Brown, 1.8, and 1.12.
I'm fine with moving up for 1.1, and with getting Gronk to keep him away from rivals. What isn't clear to me is if you gave more than 2 1sts and a 3rd, cause it seems light. If not, perhaps the owner just got scared of holding the bag on Gronk's value. Maybe older producing players like Gronk are good targets in the future.
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Re: Rob Gronkowski - how do you value him these days?

Postby ArrylT » Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:36 am

I can only hope that #Gronksmash will smash more than just his owners hearts for the rest of this season.
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..

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Re: Rob Gronkowski - how do you value him these days?

Postby Servo » Sat Nov 24, 2018 1:03 pm

I want nothing to do with Gronk, down season and the consistent worry that he will up and retire.

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Re: Rob Gronkowski - how do you value him these days?

Postby MontrealBen » Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:30 pm

Team 3 -- would you trade him for Calvin Ridley? The full context is that I'm out of the playoffs, but the 4 teams who miss the playoffs have their own tournament for the #1 pick (which ends up being the dynasty rookie 1.01 or a top 50 player who someone can't keep because they're too stacked). Ridley is clearly the better dynasty play, but since I can keep only 5 players, I'm not sure it's worth it if Gronk can help me more this year. Am I way off?

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Re: Rob Gronkowski - how do you value him these days?

Postby Ice » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:21 pm

He is a value risk but that said, depending on the prize involved a contender will pay a high price. His value today is a function of a specific team's need.

I agree he is close to retirement but he is elite when on the field. The retire when Brady retires comment makes a lot of sense.
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