Hunter Henry
Re: Hunter Henry Value Check
I really like Hunter Henry and have acquired him since his injury, but a late first is the most I'd pay, and I'd have to be pretty happy with my entire starting lineup before doing so.
The chance to get a stud RB or WR in the mid and early first is easy more valuable than any TE not named Kelce or Ertz.
If I was after Henry, I'd be offering a second plus a player.
The chance to get a stud RB or WR in the mid and early first is easy more valuable than any TE not named Kelce or Ertz.
If I was after Henry, I'd be offering a second plus a player.
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Re: Hunter Henry Value Check
He's worth more than a late 1st, but good luck getting it.
Re: Hunter Henry Value Check
As of today, there's no way Njoku is worth more than Hunter Henry. But there is a lot of season left to prove me wrong.
We've seen Engram turn into a complete 0 this year, maybe it's more to do with Barkley, OBJ + Shepard...in addition to Eli's horrible play + the OL.
Kittle and Howard would be worth more today.
We've seen Engram turn into a complete 0 this year, maybe it's more to do with Barkley, OBJ + Shepard...in addition to Eli's horrible play + the OL.
Kittle and Howard would be worth more today.
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Re: Hunter Henry Value Check
I got him a few weeks ago for Crowder and round 2. Feel good about that one.
Re: Hunter Henry Value Check
For dynasty I would have Kittle, OJ and Henry all about neck and neck for #3-5 in TE rankings, and Njoku at 6. I'm done with Gronk in dynasty unless I'm a contender this year and hopefully he can help me out.Servo wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:12 am As of today, there's no way Njoku is worth more than Hunter Henry. But there is a lot of season left to prove me wrong.
We've seen Engram turn into a complete 0 this year, maybe it's more to do with Barkley, OBJ + Shepard...in addition to Eli's horrible play + the OL.
Kittle and Howard would be worth more today.
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Re: Hunter Henry Value Check
I wouldn't pay more than a late 1st / early 2nd. Henry is somewhere between dynasty TE6-9 toward the back-end of that second tier about the same as Njoku and Burton. I have him firmly behind Kelce, Ertz, Kittle, Howard, and Engram.
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QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
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RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
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Re: Hunter Henry Value Check
interesting. I would wager that given a healthy season next year Henry will be the #2 scoring TE just behind Kelce.WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:26 am I wouldn't pay more than a late 1st / early 2nd. Henry is somewhere between dynasty TE6-9 toward the back-end of that second tier about the same as Njoku and Burton. I have him firmly behind Kelce, Ertz, Kittle, Howard, and Engram.
Re: Hunter Henry Value Check
Henry was a top 5 dynasty TE before the injury, long term I think that is still the case. I was able to get him as the 18th TE off the board in a dynasty start up this season. People freak out and under value players while the are out injured.
Modern medicine has changed the way players return from injury but it seems like the majority of people are not buying into that.
Modern medicine has changed the way players return from injury but it seems like the majority of people are not buying into that.
12 Team PPR Scoring:
QB: Purdy, Pickett, Howell, Rodgers
RB: Bijan, Kamara, A. Jones Spears Allgeier, Tucker, Hunt
WR: ARSB, Ridley, Nacua, E. Moore, Hollywood, Addison, Mingo, Mooney, M. Thomas, Gallup
TE: Hockenson, Ferguson
PK:
DST: Ravens
12 Team Superflex PPR Scoring:
QB: Fields, Tua, Howell, White
RB: J. Taylor, A. Jones, Pierce, Swift , K. Miller, Hunt, Ford,
WR: Pittman, Deebo, Godwin, Ridley, Gabe Davis, E. Moore, Mooney, Toney, Q. Johnson
TE: Ferguson, Okonkwo L. Thomas
QB: Purdy, Pickett, Howell, Rodgers
RB: Bijan, Kamara, A. Jones Spears Allgeier, Tucker, Hunt
WR: ARSB, Ridley, Nacua, E. Moore, Hollywood, Addison, Mingo, Mooney, M. Thomas, Gallup
TE: Hockenson, Ferguson
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QB: Fields, Tua, Howell, White
RB: J. Taylor, A. Jones, Pierce, Swift , K. Miller, Hunt, Ford,
WR: Pittman, Deebo, Godwin, Ridley, Gabe Davis, E. Moore, Mooney, Toney, Q. Johnson
TE: Ferguson, Okonkwo L. Thomas
Re: Hunter Henry Value Check
Hes a very solid TE moving forward in dynasty who has recovered very quickly. I hope they dont rush him back this year though. I picked him up for eifert and a late 2019 2nd the week before eifert busted his ankle. Having burton, hooper, herndon and Henry I hope to sell one for a 2020 pick or package to upgrade at another position.
TEAM 1
12 team ppr dynasty
QB- M RYAN, M Trubisky, J Rosen, T Bridgewater
RB- D COOK, J HOWARD, N CHUBB, M BREIDA,C Hyde, D Foreman, F Gore, TJ Yeldon, J Samuels
WR- K ALLEN, T HILL, D ADAMS, R WOODS, J Doctson, M Valdes-Scantling, M Hollins, C Rodgers, J Moore, C Patterson
TE- T BURTON, H Henry, C Herndon, A Hooper,
K- R SUCCOP,
D- BEARS, Falcons
2019 picks- Rounds 1, 3
2020 picks- Rounds 1, 2, 3
2018 1st Place (regular season 23-3)
2018 trades
Traded T Eifert and 2019 2nd for Hunter Henry
Traded A Collins and K Stills for J Howard
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12 team, .20 per carry rb, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr te, superflex.
QB- M. Trubisky, D Prescott
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RB- A. Kamara, J. Howard,
WR- S. Diggs, K. Golladay, A Humphries,
TE- D. Njoku, H. Henry, I. Thomas
12 team ppr dynasty
QB- M RYAN, M Trubisky, J Rosen, T Bridgewater
RB- D COOK, J HOWARD, N CHUBB, M BREIDA,C Hyde, D Foreman, F Gore, TJ Yeldon, J Samuels
WR- K ALLEN, T HILL, D ADAMS, R WOODS, J Doctson, M Valdes-Scantling, M Hollins, C Rodgers, J Moore, C Patterson
TE- T BURTON, H Henry, C Herndon, A Hooper,
K- R SUCCOP,
D- BEARS, Falcons
2019 picks- Rounds 1, 3
2020 picks- Rounds 1, 2, 3
2018 1st Place (regular season 23-3)
2018 trades
Traded T Eifert and 2019 2nd for Hunter Henry
Traded A Collins and K Stills for J Howard
TEAM 2
12 team, .20 per carry rb, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr te, superflex.
QB- M. Trubisky, D Prescott
, N Foles
RB- A. Kamara, J. Howard,
WR- S. Diggs, K. Golladay, A Humphries,
TE- D. Njoku, H. Henry, I. Thomas
Re: Hunter Henry Value Check
For sure, there's even talk that he could be back at the end of the year and playoffs. It's unlikely and hopefully they don't rush him back, but the fact that's even possible is insane.
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Re: Hunter Henry Value Check
This always baffles me. Henry was a top 5 TE before he got hurt. No reason he shouldn't come back as good or better. (Let's say 4 to 7 range because of the TEs that have emerged).
A late round 1st is like getting a 50% chance at someone who will even be a starter. I know that the TE position is undervalued, but there is no way I am trading my sure thing TE for a 50% chance to get a guy I can actually use...
I own Henry and I wouldn't trade him for anything later than a top 5 pick (which I am aware I will never get). I wouldn't trade Howard for less than that either.
A late round 1st is like getting a 50% chance at someone who will even be a starter. I know that the TE position is undervalued, but there is no way I am trading my sure thing TE for a 50% chance to get a guy I can actually use...
I own Henry and I wouldn't trade him for anything later than a top 5 pick (which I am aware I will never get). I wouldn't trade Howard for less than that either.
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QB (1): Herbert, Lawrence, Darnold
RB (3): N. Chubb, D. Henry, J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, Pollard, Singletary, L. Murray
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, B. Aiyuk, J. Smith-Schuster, R Bateman, E. Moore
TE (2): I. Smith Jr, H. Henry, Schultz, Tremble
K (1): M. Crosby
DB (1): J. Adams
LB (1): F. Warner
DL (1): D. Lawrence
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QB (1): Herbert, Lawrence, Darnold
RB (3): N. Chubb, D. Henry, J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, Pollard, Singletary, L. Murray
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, B. Aiyuk, J. Smith-Schuster, R Bateman, E. Moore
TE (2): I. Smith Jr, H. Henry, Schultz, Tremble
K (1): M. Crosby
DB (1): J. Adams
LB (1): F. Warner
DL (1): D. Lawrence
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Re: Hunter Henry Value Check
And his value has only increased. He is definetly worth at least an early first. Not the 1.1. but a top 5 pick easily.Wile E. Coyote wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:50 pmI drafted Hunter Henry in his 2016 rookie draft with my 1.09 pick. 12 team, 2 TE league.dynastynoob1 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:26 pm I'm pretty high on Henry, but its tough to sell a TE for more than a mid 2019 first with the amount of young TE talent with Kittle, Howard, Engram, Njoku.
QB - DWatson(HOU)Minshew(JAX)Darnold(NYJ)
RB -NChubb(CLE)DHenry(TEN)JTaylor(IND)Gurley(ATL)
WR -DHopkins(ARI)ACooper(DAL)CGodwin(TB)OBJ(CLE)
TE - HHenry(SD)DGoeddart(PHI)
K - Zurlien(LAR)Crosby(GB)
Def - ARI DAL
[rookie] Haskins(WAS)DSwift(DET)Jefferson(MIN)MHardman(KC)
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Rosters must always be 3qbs 4wrs 4rbs 2tes 2kickers 2dst and protected players don't take up a roster spot, but are only for rookie/2nd-year players that were drafted
RB -NChubb(CLE)DHenry(TEN)JTaylor(IND)Gurley(ATL)
WR -DHopkins(ARI)ACooper(DAL)CGodwin(TB)OBJ(CLE)
TE - HHenry(SD)DGoeddart(PHI)
K - Zurlien(LAR)Crosby(GB)
Def - ARI DAL
[rookie] Haskins(WAS)DSwift(DET)Jefferson(MIN)MHardman(KC)
7th pick in 2021
Rosters must always be 3qbs 4wrs 4rbs 2tes 2kickers 2dst and protected players don't take up a roster spot, but are only for rookie/2nd-year players that were drafted
Re: Hunter Henry Value Check
I like Henry a lot, and my post history testifies to that. But early 1st is too much for a TE that hasn't actually produced a 1k yard season yet, which in my mind is the minimum of what a TE in fantasy needs to do before I start giving him equal value to elite WR/RB prospects.
Henry is a fantastic combo-TE, but elite TEs are statistically more vulnerable to depressed situations than elite WRs, so I think that has to be factored into their speculative value. There's a plausible scenario in which Henry becomes recognized as one of the NFL's very best TEs for years, and yet still parks at 800ish yards receiving every season because he just isn't in an offense that needs to feed him more than that as a receiver. In real football terms he'd be elite, but in fantasy terms he'd basically be the production equivalent of a WR2.
Henry is a fantastic combo-TE, but elite TEs are statistically more vulnerable to depressed situations than elite WRs, so I think that has to be factored into their speculative value. There's a plausible scenario in which Henry becomes recognized as one of the NFL's very best TEs for years, and yet still parks at 800ish yards receiving every season because he just isn't in an offense that needs to feed him more than that as a receiver. In real football terms he'd be elite, but in fantasy terms he'd basically be the production equivalent of a WR2.
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Re: Hunter Henry Value Check
Hunter Henry is worth exactly George Kittle & a 2nd.
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..
Re: Hunter Henry Value Check
I love Henry as a player but I think he lacks the big play ability of Kelce,Ertz,Kittle,Howard and Engram.Those guys are deadly with YAC where I see Henry as a possession guy and I can’t give up a 1st for that
10 team non ppr
QB: Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson
RB: Nick Chubb,Leonard Fournette, Derrick Henry, Josh Jacobs,Chase Edmonds
WR: Tyreek Hill, Allen Robinson,Hollywood Brown,Curtis Samuel,,Courtland Sutton,Christian Kirk,,Diontae Johnson,Antonio Brown
TE: Austin Hooper,Dallas Goedert,Noah Fant,Tyler Higbee,OJ Howard
2020 draft picks 1.2,1.4,1.8
QB: Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson
RB: Nick Chubb,Leonard Fournette, Derrick Henry, Josh Jacobs,Chase Edmonds
WR: Tyreek Hill, Allen Robinson,Hollywood Brown,Curtis Samuel,,Courtland Sutton,Christian Kirk,,Diontae Johnson,Antonio Brown
TE: Austin Hooper,Dallas Goedert,Noah Fant,Tyler Higbee,OJ Howard
2020 draft picks 1.2,1.4,1.8
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