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Re: Hunter Henry Value Check

Postby Pac_Eddy » Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:59 am

I really like Hunter Henry and have acquired him since his injury, but a late first is the most I'd pay, and I'd have to be pretty happy with my entire starting lineup before doing so.

The chance to get a stud RB or WR in the mid and early first is easy more valuable than any TE not named Kelce or Ertz.

If I was after Henry, I'd be offering a second plus a player.
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Re: Hunter Henry Value Check

Postby doublesticks » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:57 am

He's worth more than a late 1st, but good luck getting it.

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Re: Hunter Henry Value Check

Postby Servo » Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:12 am

As of today, there's no way Njoku is worth more than Hunter Henry. But there is a lot of season left to prove me wrong.

We've seen Engram turn into a complete 0 this year, maybe it's more to do with Barkley, OBJ + Shepard...in addition to Eli's horrible play + the OL.

Kittle and Howard would be worth more today.
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Re: Hunter Henry Value Check

Postby Space Cowboy » Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:06 am

I got him a few weeks ago for Crowder and round 2. Feel good about that one.

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Re: Hunter Henry Value Check

Postby bjd5211 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:10 am

Servo wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:12 am
As of today, there's no way Njoku is worth more than Hunter Henry. But there is a lot of season left to prove me wrong.

We've seen Engram turn into a complete 0 this year, maybe it's more to do with Barkley, OBJ + Shepard...in addition to Eli's horrible play + the OL.

Kittle and Howard would be worth more today.
For dynasty I would have Kittle, OJ and Henry all about neck and neck for #3-5 in TE rankings, and Njoku at 6. I'm done with Gronk in dynasty unless I'm a contender this year and hopefully he can help me out.

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Re: Hunter Henry Value Check

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:26 am

I wouldn't pay more than a late 1st / early 2nd. Henry is somewhere between dynasty TE6-9 toward the back-end of that second tier about the same as Njoku and Burton. I have him firmly behind Kelce, Ertz, Kittle, Howard, and Engram.
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Re: Hunter Henry Value Check

Postby grandmabetty » Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:03 pm

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:26 am
I wouldn't pay more than a late 1st / early 2nd. Henry is somewhere between dynasty TE6-9 toward the back-end of that second tier about the same as Njoku and Burton. I have him firmly behind Kelce, Ertz, Kittle, Howard, and Engram.
interesting. I would wager that given a healthy season next year Henry will be the #2 scoring TE just behind Kelce.
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Re: Hunter Henry Value Check

Postby dmac37 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:11 pm

Henry was a top 5 dynasty TE before the injury, long term I think that is still the case. I was able to get him as the 18th TE off the board in a dynasty start up this season. People freak out and under value players while the are out injured.

Modern medicine has changed the way players return from injury but it seems like the majority of people are not buying into that.
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Re: Hunter Henry Value Check

Postby jcass1991 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:17 pm

Hes a very solid TE moving forward in dynasty who has recovered very quickly. I hope they dont rush him back this year though. I picked him up for eifert and a late 2019 2nd the week before eifert busted his ankle. Having burton, hooper, herndon and Henry I hope to sell one for a 2020 pick or package to upgrade at another position.
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QB- M RYAN, M Trubisky, J Rosen, T Bridgewater
RB- D COOK, J HOWARD, N CHUBB, M BREIDA,C Hyde, D Foreman, F Gore, TJ Yeldon, J Samuels
WR- K ALLEN, T HILL, D ADAMS, R WOODS, J Doctson, M Valdes-Scantling, M Hollins, C Rodgers, J Moore, C Patterson
TE- T BURTON, H Henry, C Herndon, A Hooper,
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Re: Hunter Henry Value Check

Postby bjd5211 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:42 pm

dmac37 wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:11 pm

Modern medicine has changed the way players return from injury but it seems like the majority of people are not buying into that.
For sure, there's even talk that he could be back at the end of the year and playoffs. It's unlikely and hopefully they don't rush him back, but the fact that's even possible is insane.

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Re: Hunter Henry Value Check

Postby jetsfan5757 » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:13 am

This always baffles me. Henry was a top 5 TE before he got hurt. No reason he shouldn't come back as good or better. (Let's say 4 to 7 range because of the TEs that have emerged).

A late round 1st is like getting a 50% chance at someone who will even be a starter. I know that the TE position is undervalued, but there is no way I am trading my sure thing TE for a 50% chance to get a guy I can actually use...

I own Henry and I wouldn't trade him for anything later than a top 5 pick (which I am aware I will never get). I wouldn't trade Howard for less than that either.
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RB (3): David Johnson, N. Chubb, D. Guice, D. Henry, T. Coleman, C. Thompson
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, J. Smith-Schuster, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, D. Pettis, P. Williams
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Re: Hunter Henry Value Check

Postby MrUbuto » Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:45 am

Wile E. Coyote wrote:
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dynastynoob1 wrote:
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I'm pretty high on Henry, but its tough to sell a TE for more than a mid 2019 first with the amount of young TE talent with Kittle, Howard, Engram, Njoku.
I drafted Hunter Henry in his 2016 rookie draft with my 1.09 pick. 12 team, 2 TE league.
And his value has only increased. He is definetly worth at least an early first. Not the 1.1. but a top 5 pick easily.
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Re: Hunter Henry Value Check

Postby ninotoreS » Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:30 pm

I like Henry a lot, and my post history testifies to that. But early 1st is too much for a TE that hasn't actually produced a 1k yard season yet, which in my mind is the minimum of what a TE in fantasy needs to do before I start giving him equal value to elite WR/RB prospects.

Henry is a fantastic combo-TE, but elite TEs are statistically more vulnerable to depressed situations than elite WRs, so I think that has to be factored into their speculative value. There's a plausible scenario in which Henry becomes recognized as one of the NFL's very best TEs for years, and yet still parks at 800ish yards receiving every season because he just isn't in an offense that needs to feed him more than that as a receiver. In real football terms he'd be elite, but in fantasy terms he'd basically be the production equivalent of a WR2.
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Re: Hunter Henry Value Check

Postby ArrylT » Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:35 pm

Hunter Henry is worth exactly George Kittle & a 2nd. ;)
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Re: Hunter Henry Value Check

Postby Ukcody83 » Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:05 pm

I love Henry as a player but I think he lacks the big play ability of Kelce,Ertz,Kittle,Howard and Engram.Those guys are deadly with YAC where I see Henry as a possession guy and I can’t give up a 1st for that
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