Collusion?
Re: Collusion?
Is the guy getting White and Boyd a contender? I would gladly move my first as a contender (even a projected 1.01 I owned from another team) to boost my chances at a championship this year and White and Boyd may do just that. It's not like there is a Barkley level talent in 2019 that I am aware of. The other owner may also feel comfortable moving the 1.01 to a team he doesn't view as a threat, even if the return is not as great.
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Re: Collusion?
I think people are missing the whole point here, which is why would someone give up the 1.1 and a top TE prospect in a SF TE premium league for meh?
Obviously I want bad owners to turn it around, for the sake of league health. Anyone in Dynasty that hopes for utter team failure of leagues mates obviously doesn't understand dynasty football. Continuous failure of the same team leads to league downfall.
Again, the point of this post was that myself and a few other owners found it odd that we offered legitimate established players for a 1.1, and the accepted offer was boyd and white.
Obviously I want bad owners to turn it around, for the sake of league health. Anyone in Dynasty that hopes for utter team failure of leagues mates obviously doesn't understand dynasty football. Continuous failure of the same team leads to league downfall.
Again, the point of this post was that myself and a few other owners found it odd that we offered legitimate established players for a 1.1, and the accepted offer was boyd and white.
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Re: Collusion?
Just out of curiosity, what were the offers you and other leaguemates made?Dirty Mike&the Boyz wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:34 am I think people are missing the whole point here, which is why would someone give up the 1.1 and a top TE prospect in a SF TE premium league for meh?
Obviously I want bad owners to turn it around, for the sake of league health. Anyone in Dynasty that hopes for utter team failure of leagues mates obviously doesn't understand dynasty football. Continuous failure of the same team leads to league downfall.
Again, the point of this post was that myself and a few other owners found it odd that we offered legitimate established players for a 1.1, and the accepted offer was boyd and white.
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Re: Collusion?
That's a very good point and nice insight. I appreciate the objectivity of this post... a lot of bashing for some reason of this thread. I was never jealous etc just thought it was odd and wanted some outsider opinions on if they could see this being collusion, obviously it isn't based on the feedback I received.nyterp wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:20 am Is the guy getting White and Boyd a contender? I would gladly move my first as a contender (even a projected 1.01 I owned from another team) to boost my chances at a championship this year and White and Boyd may do just that. It's not like there is a Barkley level talent in 2019 that I am aware of. The other owner may also feel comfortable moving the 1.01 to a team he doesn't view as a threat, even if the return is not as great.
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Re: Collusion?
Like I mentioned before, I offered Jordan Howard and a 2019 first (this was after week 3 when Howard put up 16 pts, not his current state). I was told Hunt was also involved in an offer from another team.Goddard wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:37 amJust out of curiosity, what were the offers you and other leaguemates made?Dirty Mike&the Boyz wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:34 am I think people are missing the whole point here, which is why would someone give up the 1.1 and a top TE prospect in a SF TE premium league for meh?
Obviously I want bad owners to turn it around, for the sake of league health. Anyone in Dynasty that hopes for utter team failure of leagues mates obviously doesn't understand dynasty football. Continuous failure of the same team leads to league downfall.
Again, the point of this post was that myself and a few other owners found it odd that we offered legitimate established players for a 1.1, and the accepted offer was boyd and white.
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Re: Collusion?
Always is bashing when collusion is mentioned. The term gets thrown around too casually when someone doesn't like a trade.
Re: Collusion?
At this point, I can see how White is more valuable than Howard for a competitor. Boyd is also probably worth at least a late 1st at this point. I don't think picking the White offer over the Howard one would make me consider collusion, even if I didn't agree with the values. As for the Hunt offer, just stating Hunt was involved isn't enough. We would need to know the exact offer before accusing collusion.Dirty Mike&the Boyz wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:43 amLike I mentioned before, I offered Jordan Howard and a 2019 first (this was after week 3 when Howard put up 16 pts, not his current state). I was told Hunt was also involved in an offer from another team.Goddard wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:37 amJust out of curiosity, what were the offers you and other leaguemates made?Dirty Mike&the Boyz wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:34 am I think people are missing the whole point here, which is why would someone give up the 1.1 and a top TE prospect in a SF TE premium league for meh?
Obviously I want bad owners to turn it around, for the sake of league health. Anyone in Dynasty that hopes for utter team failure of leagues mates obviously doesn't understand dynasty football. Continuous failure of the same team leads to league downfall.
Again, the point of this post was that myself and a few other owners found it odd that we offered legitimate established players for a 1.1, and the accepted offer was boyd and white.
Re: Collusion?
Also, I don't think anyone is bashing you here. Just pointing out that there's absolutely no reason to assume collusion with that trade.
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Re: Collusion?
Yep...it's official!!
I will read any of these stupid collusion posts even though I almost always know before opening the post that it is an owner overreacting...
I will read any of these stupid collusion posts even though I almost always know before opening the post that it is an owner overreacting...
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Re: Collusion?
i like the 1.1 side better..... collusion???
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Re: Collusion?
get over itflyersfan1981 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:00 pm Yep...it's official!!
I will read any of these stupid collusion posts even though I almost always know before opening the post that it is an owner overreacting...
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Re: Collusion?
This is a completely pointless post!!
The guy who always loses trades finally made a good one?? Ok......
The guy who always loses trades finally made a good one?? Ok......
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Re: Collusion?
I get why you're so confused OP, it happens to all of us. We make an offer that we think is fair, and it gets rejected. Then an offer, that we think is a lot worse (might not be) gets accepted, and you get pissed. It happens to pretty much everyone at some point. Just have to move on with what you have and make other moves. Anyway, a good way to look at it is that now that team will be competitive and could turn their team around. I like to avoid the word collusion unless it's obvious (it's not this time). Remember, this happens to a lot of dynasty players, so move on, and good luck the rest of the season.
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Re: Collusion?
i agreeDinoDynasty wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:08 am The struggling team finally won a trade let it go. White can win a league this year and Boyd is helping his case for AJs predecessor.
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Re: Collusion?
Agree with this, I actually made a great offer to a leaguemate once and he said it wasnt enough. About a week later he came back to me and said what about this and proceeded to offer me the same deal as before as if we had not talked about it. lol .....and it was missing a good piece that I had previously included. Dont try to figure people out you just never know, and beer is many times involved. My lesson is be around the beer, dumb decisions are made there, have your cash close by... LOLhudini33 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:07 pm I get why you're so confused OP, it happens to all of us. We make an offer that we think is fair, and it gets rejected. Then an offer, that we think is a lot worse (might not be) gets accepted, and you get pissed. It happens to pretty much everyone at some point. Just have to move on with what you have and make other moves. Anyway, a good way to look at it is that now that team will be competitive and could turn their team around. I like to avoid the word collusion unless it's obvious (it's not this time). Remember, this happens to a lot of dynasty players, so move on, and good luck the rest of the season.
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