Diggs Trade

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Diggs Trade

Postby dougw060 » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:17 am

14 team, PPR, Superflex, TE Premium

Stefon Diggs
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Brandin Cooks + Gio Bernard + Austin Hooper
I'm in too many leagues to list them here :wave:

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Re: Diggs Trade

Postby Goddard » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:26 am

Bernard and Hooper don't carry a lot of weight, so this comes down to Diggs vs. Cooks for me. I think I'd lean towards Diggs, but it's very close.

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Re: Diggs Trade

Postby hockeyBjj » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:41 am

Very close there. Gonna come down to opinion on Cooks and Diggs

50/50 on which side of this trade looks better in a year or two of hindsight
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flx, 1D, 1K
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker

picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5

team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd :wall:
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol

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Re: Diggs Trade

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:03 am

Cooks > Diggs
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12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd

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Re: Diggs Trade

Postby hatingfrancis » Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:10 am

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:03 am Cooks > Diggs
I disagree.
12 Team PPR Superflex
QB - Carson Wentz, Josh Allen, Joe Flacco(IR), Marcus Mariota
RB - Jordan Howard,Leonard Fournette,Kenyan Drake,Miles Sanders,Darwin Thompson
WR - Allen Robinson,Corey Davis,Cooper Kupp, Kenny Golladay, Josh Gordon, Tyler Lockett, James Washington,
TE - OJ Howard,Hunter Henry

16 Team PPR
QB - Lamar Jackson, Carson Wentz
RB - Kerryon Johnson (IR),Derrius Guice (IR),Adrian Peterson,Kenyan Drake,Ty Johnson, JD Mckissick, Darwin Thompson
WR - Deandre Hopkins,Mike Evans,Chris Godwin,Courtland Sutton,AJ Brown,Preston Williams
TE - Evan Engram,OJ Howard

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Re: Diggs Trade

Postby BigBawseRoss » Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:11 pm

diggs, dont give a crap about the 2 throw ins
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Diggs Trade

Postby hudini33 » Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:12 pm

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:03 am Cooks > Diggs
😂😂😂

Now that we've from the He Man Diggs Hater Club, I think I'm going to go with Cooks in this trade, and think Hopper tips the scale for me a bit.
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2018, 2021 Champion

QB: Hurts, Z Wilson, Minshew, Heinecke
RB: Zeke, Ekeler, Patterson, J Robinson, Pollard, Jamal Williams
WR: Diggs, Sutton, Metcalf, McLaurin, Mooney, V. Jefferson, M. Jones
TE: Andrews, Knox, Freiermuth
D/ST: Packers, Cardinals

2022 Picks: 1.12, 2.12, 3.03, 3.12
2023 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 3

2018 and 2021 Champion.
2020 Runner-up


Rookie Class Heroes 10-team, 30 man roster PPR (1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLEX) 0-0 EST. 2020

QB: Baker, Fields, Ryan, Darnold
RB: Dobbins, Jacobs, Harris, Herbert, , Bernard, J. Wilson, Kelley
WR: DJ Moore, Sutton, Waddle, Mooney, N. Collins, V. Jefferson, B. Edwards, D. Brown, Reynolds, Duvernay, Agholor, Mims, G Wilson, Pickens, Burks
TE: Engram, Kmet, Freiermuth, Tremble

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2023 Picks: 1, 1, 3, 4

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Re: Diggs Trade

Postby xNiCkBx » Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:36 pm

Diggs for me...
Team 1: 12 Team PPR

QBs - Deshaun Watson, Dak Prescott
RBS - Nick Chubb, Devin Singletary, Giovani Bernard, Justin Jackson, Darrell Henderson
WRs - DeAndre Hopkins, T.Y. Hilton, DJ Moore, Christian Kirk, Zach Pascal, Russell Gage, Antonio Brown
TEs - Hunter Henry, Mike Gesicki, Delanie Walker
DST - Buffalo
K - Will Lutz

Team 2: 12 Team PPR IDP

QBs - Deshaun Watson, Derek Carr, Dwayne Haskins
RBs - Ezekiel Elliot, James Conner, Devin Singletary, Benny Snell, Zack Moss, Anthony McFarland, Bryce Love
WRs - Odell Beckham Jr, Stefon Diggs, Tyler Locket, Tyrell Williams, Breshard Perriman, Kenny Stills
TEs - Rob Gronkowski, Tyler Higbee, T.J. Hockenson
K - Justin Tucker
DE - Chase Young, Josh Allen, JJ Watt
LB - Darius Leonard, Tremaine Edmunds, Eric Kendricks
S - Von Bell, Johnathan Abram, Jeremy Chinn

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Re: Diggs Trade

Postby dvpkwys » Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:40 pm

Diggs and it’s not close for me.
10 Team - NON PPR (5 Round Rookie Draft) - Start 2QB, 2RB, 4WR, 1TE, 1FLEX, 4DB, 4LB/DL/DB

Burrow/Howell (Murray, Geno)
Taylor/Swift (Sanders, Conner, Gibson, Miller, Spears Lenny)
Adams/Godwin/Higgins/McLaurin (DJ Moore, Hopkins, Tillman)
Kelce (Hockenson)
Budda/Holland/Blackmon/Minkah (Sydney Brown)
Bosa/Bernard/Okereke/EJones (Elliss)

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Re: Diggs Trade

Postby BelichekYourSelf » Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:32 pm

I don't understand how anyone can pick Diggs here...

Cooks
53-550-3
84-1138-9
78-1173-8
65-1082-7

Diggs
52-720-4
84-903-3
64-849-8

Cooks has been significantly more productive and is the best WR on his team. Diggs is perpetually injured and the clear WR2 on his own team. Hell Cooks already has 3 seasons better than anything Diggs has ever done. Really an easy choice.
12 Team. Roster 22, 4 TS. PPR, TE Prem (1.75). Start 1 QB, 5 flex (2 RB Max), 1 Def, 1 K
QB P. Mahomes, J. Goff, B Zappe (TS)
RB S. Barkley, N. Chubb, R. Stevenson, T. Pollard, J. Cook, K. Herbert, A. Mattison, E. Mitchell
WR AJ Brown, DK Metcalf, C. Kupp, A. Cooper, D. Hopkins, DJ Moore, B. Aiyuk, R. Doubs, K. Boutte (TS), C. Tillman (TS), M. Wilson (TS)
TE M. Andrews
Def Patriots, Ravens

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Re: Diggs Trade

Postby hudini33 » Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:13 pm

BelichekYourSelf wrote: Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:32 pm I don't understand how anyone can pick Diggs here...

Cooks
53-550-3
84-1138-9
78-1173-8
65-1082-7

Diggs
52-720-4
84-903-3
64-849-8

Cooks has been significantly more productive and is the best WR on his team. Diggs is perpetually injured and the clear WR2 on his own team. Hell Cooks already has 3 seasons better than anything Diggs has ever done. Really an easy choice.
I don't know how he's "clearly" the WR2 on his team. Don't get me wrong, I'm on the cooks side, but what makes Diggs the clear number 2? One year of stats? When the Vikings needed a big play last year, they went to Diggs. Keenum trusted him enough for the Miracle play when Theilen was open. In preseason (yes, I know) Cousins looks like he trusts Diggs more, throwing him open rather than taking what is given (which if you didn't watch the Vikings last year, is how Theilen got the ball a lot.) Not knocking on Theilen, but he doesn't have game-breaking ability. And my last point is the contracts. They just paid Diggs a huge salary, 5 years, 72 million, 40 million guaranteed. That's more than Julio, and more than AB got last year. They clearly want to pay him as a top WR. Anyway, I believe diggs is the WR1 in Minnesota, and none of this is a knock on Theilen, they compliment each other extremely well.

Ok, I'm done ranting. Oh, and take Cooks, I have Cooks=Diggs, so Hooper puts it over the edge.
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2018, 2021 Champion

QB: Hurts, Z Wilson, Minshew, Heinecke
RB: Zeke, Ekeler, Patterson, J Robinson, Pollard, Jamal Williams
WR: Diggs, Sutton, Metcalf, McLaurin, Mooney, V. Jefferson, M. Jones
TE: Andrews, Knox, Freiermuth
D/ST: Packers, Cardinals

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2023 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 3

2018 and 2021 Champion.
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QB: Baker, Fields, Ryan, Darnold
RB: Dobbins, Jacobs, Harris, Herbert, , Bernard, J. Wilson, Kelley
WR: DJ Moore, Sutton, Waddle, Mooney, N. Collins, V. Jefferson, B. Edwards, D. Brown, Reynolds, Duvernay, Agholor, Mims, G Wilson, Pickens, Burks
TE: Engram, Kmet, Freiermuth, Tremble

2022 Picks: 1.08, 2.04, 2.09, 3.02, 4.04
2023 Picks: 1, 1, 3, 4

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Re: Diggs Trade

Postby Skelly11 » Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:42 pm

I go with cooks. But I’m also biased as I want a big year from him personally
10 man Dynasty 0.5 pt PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex

QB: Wentz, Jones, Geno, Willis, Ridder
RB: CMC, Zeke, Ekeler, Hunt, M Davis, J Wilson, E. Mitchell, McKinnon
WR: Cooks, Tyreek, Diontae Johnson, Julio, Watkins, Boyd, D. Parker, MVS, Gage, Cobb, Thornton
TE: Engram, Tonyan, Dissly, J. Johnson

12 Team Dynasty, 0.5 PPR, TE Premium
2QB, 3RB, 4WR, 2TE, 2 Flex

QB: Mahomes, Tannehill, Foles, Willis, Ehlinger, Howell, Corral, Darnold
RB: Ekeler, Aaron Jones, Hunt, G. Bernard, J Wilson, Haskins, K. Williams
WR: Tyreek, Kupp, MT, Cooks, Watkins, N’Keal, Parker, Gage, Claypool, Doubs, Dyami, Skowronek, Blackshear
TE: Gronk, Uzomah, Dissly, Hendershot, Stoll

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Re: Diggs Trade

Postby Shortie » Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:19 am

I love me some Cooks....always have. But the answer here is Diggs.

Anyone who watches the films of these two guys can see the difference and if they can’t they don’t know what to watch for. And Diggs has that my ball intensity of an OBJ and AB that makes him play bigger than his size. He’s an elite WR in every sense of the word and will show it if he can stay healthy. We’ve seen Cooks’ ceiling in a Brady/Brees led offense. We have yet to scratch Diggs’ ceiling in a Keenum/Bradford/Bridgewater led offense.

Let Cousins and Diggs hit the Player’s Club for about a month or two, put a tan on it, and then see what it do....

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Re: Diggs Trade

Postby BelichekYourSelf » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:26 am

hudini33 wrote: Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:13 pm
BelichekYourSelf wrote: Wed Aug 22, 2018 9:32 pm I don't understand how anyone can pick Diggs here...

Cooks
53-550-3
84-1138-9
78-1173-8
65-1082-7

Diggs
52-720-4
84-903-3
64-849-8

Cooks has been significantly more productive and is the best WR on his team. Diggs is perpetually injured and the clear WR2 on his own team. Hell Cooks already has 3 seasons better than anything Diggs has ever done. Really an easy choice.
I don't know how he's "clearly" the WR2 on his team. Don't get me wrong, I'm on the cooks side, but what makes Diggs the clear number 2? One year of stats? When the Vikings needed a big play last year, they went to Diggs. Keenum trusted him enough for the Miracle play when Theilen was open. In preseason (yes, I know) Cousins looks like he trusts Diggs more, throwing him open rather than taking what is given (which if you didn't watch the Vikings last year, is how Theilen got the ball a lot.) Not knocking on Theilen, but he doesn't have game-breaking ability. And my last point is the contracts. They just paid Diggs a huge salary, 5 years, 72 million, 40 million guaranteed. That's more than Julio, and more than AB got last year. They clearly want to pay him as a top WR. Anyway, I believe diggs is the WR1 in Minnesota, and none of this is a knock on Theilen, they compliment each other extremely well.

Ok, I'm done ranting. Oh, and take Cooks, I have Cooks=Diggs, so Hooper puts it over the edge.
Last years stats.
Thielen 91-1277-4 on 143 targets.
Diggs 64-849-8 on 95 targets

One of those players in clearly the WR1 the other is the WR2. 48 extra targets don't just happen randomly. Sure Diggs will have some big plays. But he'll also miss 3-4 games a year. I love it when people fall in love with "potential" over actual production. "The guy who is always hurt will stay healthy this year I know it!!" "This is the year he'll finally break 1,000 yards and be worth his 2nd round ADP!!" It's crazy how some players are so overvalued compared to what they actually produce. Based on what Diggs has done on the field he should be valued similarly to Sammy Watkins. Someone who also got a decent payday this year...

I'd rather have the guy I know will give me 65-1100-8 every year over the guy who has never broken 1,000 yards in a season but has "potential".
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RB S. Barkley, N. Chubb, R. Stevenson, T. Pollard, J. Cook, K. Herbert, A. Mattison, E. Mitchell
WR AJ Brown, DK Metcalf, C. Kupp, A. Cooper, D. Hopkins, DJ Moore, B. Aiyuk, R. Doubs, K. Boutte (TS), C. Tillman (TS), M. Wilson (TS)
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Re: Diggs Trade

Postby cvbuc » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:47 am

I'm shocked people are calling Hooper a "throw-in".
Are you guys paying attention? Look at his jump from season one to season two.
49 catches last year - now a 3rd year TE. Has great rapport with his QB, the team is in the second season in its offense.
Ryan has proven he can sustain fantasy value for two WRs and a Te in the past.

Hooper is one of the sneakiest upside TEs in the league right now.
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