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Tre'Quan Smith

Postby Franky Four Fingers » Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:27 pm

Pardon me if I missed an earlier thread on Tre'Quan but I can't understand for the life of me why this kid hasn't gotten more pub in dynasty circles. He had a great athletic profile coming out of college with equally promising numbers on the field. He was a 3rd round pick by an offensive minded coach with a hof QB and stud wr on opposite side of field to draw coverage. He has led the team in preseason and but churning out solid stories all camp long. All he has to do to win a meaningful job is best out a 32 year old vet and a guy coming off an ACL who is also learning a new playbook. Someone please explain to me why I'm not hearing more about this kid in dynasty circles.

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Re: Tre'Quan Smith

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:08 pm

Me neither, I thought he should have been going in the early 2nd, but I got him in the late 2nd a few times. Use it to your advantage and try and grab him everywhere you can, I guess.
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Re: Tre'Quan Smith

Postby Cowboysfan33 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:12 pm

Oh yeah, I really like him and have him in several leagues. I’m not sure why there’s not much talk about him, kinda odd.

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Re: Tre'Quan Smith

Postby fakespike13 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:15 pm

Sssshhhhhhhhhhhh.
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Re: Tre'Quan Smith

Postby MrUbuto » Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:27 pm

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fakespike13 wrote: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:15 pm Sssshhhhhhhhhhhh.
QB - DWatson(HOU)Minshew(JAX)Darnold(NYJ)
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Rosters must always be 3qbs 4wrs 4rbs 2tes 2kickers 2dst and protected players don't take up a roster spot, but are only for rookie/2nd-year players that were drafted

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Re: Tre'Quan Smith

Postby ninotoreS » Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:47 am

- Michael Thomas is becoming a superstar, if he isn't already, and long-term target hog
- Alvin Kamara is probably the team's de facto #2 receiver now
- at least near term, Meredith and Ginn will get their own targets
- Drew Brees is close to done and the Saints have nothing waiting in the wings
- also, Brees' pass attempts plummeted last season
- Tre'Quan Smith has talent, but that talent isn't so outrageous that it eclipses near and long term worries related to the above points

And that's why Smith is a bit of an after thought right now in dynasty. He's still going in the 2nd round of rookie drafts, though. So he's not exactly forgotten.
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Re: Tre'Quan Smith

Postby Unicorn92 » Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:56 am

I do not want to invest in any saints players at their price. Sure there are good offensive weapons but with Brees so old and without any competent QB in waiting nobody knows how those players will be good once Brees retire.I prefer invest in young offense.
I play in an idp dynasty keeper league 10 teams with 1 qb start in a ppr league 2 en 2 wr 1te 1 flex. This is a roster of 35 players and a ts of 5 players in mfl and this is a ppr league

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K C.Boswell
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Re: Tre'Quan Smith

Postby REPTAR » Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:39 am

Love Tre'Quan, happy to get him in the middle of 2nd. Understand the above listed concerns, but think Brees plays at least 2 years (still has plenty of ability), and believe Tre may have a real opportunity to become the teams WR2. He's showing up in camp and in games while guys like J'Mon Moore fall on their face and Callaway reinforce red flags. Think there's lots of value to be had in him.

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Re: Tre'Quan Smith

Postby ManhattanProject » Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:51 pm

ninotoreS wrote: Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:47 am - Michael Thomas is becoming a superstar, if he isn't already, and long-term target hog
- Alvin Kamara is probably the team's de facto #2 receiver now
- at least near term, Meredith and Ginn will get their own targets
- Drew Brees is close to done and the Saints have nothing waiting in the wings
- also, Brees' pass attempts plummeted last season
- Tre'Quan Smith has talent, but that talent isn't so outrageous that it eclipses near and long term worries related to the above points

And that's why Smith is a bit of an after thought right now in dynasty. He's still going in the 2nd round of rookie drafts, though. So he's not exactly forgotten.
Replace Thomas with AB, Kamara with Bell, Meredith with Martavis, and Brees with Rothlisberger. Tre'quan could easily become a quality player this year in even with what looks like a difficult situation.

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Re: Tre'Quan Smith

Postby MrUbuto » Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:38 pm

ManhattanProject wrote: Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:51 pm
ninotoreS wrote: Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:47 am - Michael Thomas is becoming a superstar, if he isn't already, and long-term target hog
- Alvin Kamara is probably the team's de facto #2 receiver now
- at least near term, Meredith and Ginn will get their own targets
- Drew Brees is close to done and the Saints have nothing waiting in the wings
- also, Brees' pass attempts plummeted last season
- Tre'Quan Smith has talent, but that talent isn't so outrageous that it eclipses near and long term worries related to the above points

And that's why Smith is a bit of an after thought right now in dynasty. He's still going in the 2nd round of rookie drafts, though. So he's not exactly forgotten.
Replace Thomas with AB, Kamara with Bell, Meredith with Martavis, and Brees with Rothlisberger. Tre'quan could easily become a quality player this year in even with what looks like a difficult situation.
Plus other than colston for a year or 2 brees has NEVER has just 1 "bell cow" type reciever that would can count on year in and year out.

Love MT and he WILL obviously out do smith this year and over the next few years. But they wont pay them both, one will be shipped off.

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RB -NChubb(CLE)DHenry(TEN)JTaylor(IND)Gurley(ATL)
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TE - HHenry(SD)DGoeddart(PHI)
K - Zurlien(LAR)Crosby(GB)
Def - ARI DAL
[rookie] Haskins(WAS)DSwift(DET)Jefferson(MIN)MHardman(KC)
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Rosters must always be 3qbs 4wrs 4rbs 2tes 2kickers 2dst and protected players don't take up a roster spot, but are only for rookie/2nd-year players that were drafted

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Re: Tre'Quan Smith

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:29 am

Yeah, trying to project the offense in 2-3 years when Tre"quan is entering his prime is a craps shoot. Where will JuJu be in 3 years? Who will throw him the ball, will they have Bell's replacdment? Maybe they take a top back in 2020...The talent is there, and this staff has a history of hitting on day 2 skill position picks recently. I'd take Tre'quan over guys like Anthony Miller and Kalen Ballage quite easily, but that's me.
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Re: Tre'Quan Smith

Postby koalabear » Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:44 am

People thought he'd be behind Thomas, Meredith and Ginn. He's probably only behind Thomas now. People can't always project future situations for dynasty super well.
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Re: Tre'Quan Smith

Postby ninotoreS » Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:57 am

ManhattanProject wrote: Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:51 pm Replace Thomas with AB, Kamara with Bell, Meredith with Martavis, and Brees with Rothlisberger. Tre'quan could easily become a quality player this year in even with what looks like a difficult situation.
1.) Remember, this is a rookie, who's still developing and was a late 3rd round pick in part because he's probably not ready to make an immediate, season long impact.

2.) Smith ain't JJSS, man.
koalabear wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2018 2:44 am He's probably only behind Thomas now.
Not so fast. No evidence of this yet. Smith has played in the 3rd and 4th quarter of preseason so far.

If he's on the field in the 1st quarter in the third week, then the case can be made.
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Re: Tre'Quan Smith

Postby notweswelker » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:37 am

ninotoreS wrote: Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:47 am - Michael Thomas is becoming a superstar, if he isn't already, and long-term target hog
- Alvin Kamara is probably the team's de facto #2 receiver now
- at least near term, Meredith and Ginn will get their own targets
- Drew Brees is close to done and the Saints have nothing waiting in the wings
- also, Brees' pass attempts plummeted last season
- Tre'Quan Smith has talent, but that talent isn't so outrageous that it eclipses near and long term worries related to the above points

And that's why Smith is a bit of an after thought right now in dynasty. He's still going in the 2nd round of rookie drafts, though. So he's not exactly forgotten.
This pretty much sums it up for me. Plenty of talented wide receivers with insane profiles that go on to do absolutely nothing in the NFL because of their situations and/or lack of opportunity for targets. I'd actually argue he might be being overvalued in the 2nd round. Robert Davis comes to mind, though this season he's out for injury, but last year was simply no opportunity available.

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Tre’Quan Smith

Postby DLF_TylerK » Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:25 pm

What’s his value and outlook? I like him as a prospect but I feel like he’s slumping a bit.
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