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Mike Williams, Chargers

Postby JoshGordonsDealer » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:10 am

I've not seen much chatter about Williams this offseason. I was personally very high on him going into last season, but missing training camp and early practices makes it tough to provide help as a rookie. What do we think of him?

Pros:
- High draft pedigree
- Matched with a good QB
- Won't be matched with the CB1

Cons:
- Upside is capped by Keenan Allen
- Lost a year to develop
- Injury history

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Re: Mike Williams, Chargers

Postby kamihamster » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:15 am

I can see him playing the TE role not in blocking, but the guy Rivers looks to throw a jump ball to. Williams has the size and the physicality similar to a TE. With Henry out for the season and the possible return of molasses-slow Gates, I can see Williams being a good substitute TE in this offense.
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Re: Mike Williams, Chargers

Postby tombonneau » Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:12 pm

https://www.boltsfromtheblue.com/2018/7 ... os-angeles

Sure it's camp pump piece, but watch the Twitter video posted by the Chargers. If this dude is healthy LAC will be scary.

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Re: Mike Williams, Chargers

Postby bsp27 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:34 pm

Tyrell >>>>>>>> Mike
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Re: Mike Williams, Chargers

Postby ImaRounder » Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:24 pm

bsp27 wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:34 pm
Tyrell >>>>>>>> Mike
Inaccurate.

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Re: Mike Williams, Chargers

Postby Snake » Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:24 pm

bsp27 wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:34 pm
Tyrell >>>>>>>> Mike
Tyrell is a free agent next season. If he’s that much better than Mike he’ll get a better deal somewhere else.

I thought Mike was awesome in college. Would take him 7/8 round in a 12 team league and also try to get Tyrell. They could both be starting fantasy WRs in 2019

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Re: Mike Williams, Chargers

Postby ArrylT » Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:27 pm

ImaRounder wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:24 pm
bsp27 wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:34 pm
Tyrell >>>>>>>> Mike
Inaccurate.
I would have gone with vague myself but I suppose inaccurate works too. :wink:
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..

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Re: Mike Williams, Chargers

Postby Phaded » Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:22 pm

I expect Mike Williams to easily become the #2 for the Chargers this year with Tyrell & TBenj mixing in as the 3rd WR / deep threat.

Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong or the statement is inaccurate - but I feel like KA & Mike Williams are very similar receivers (in regards to style).

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Re: Mike Williams, Chargers

Postby nathanq42 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:34 pm

I don't think they are similar at all...

Keenan Allen is closer to AB than to Mike Williams. Not terribly athletic but makes space with route running. Makes living off catching a ball in open space even though everyone knows he is the #1 receiving threat, and running for a few yards because he has that much space and time.

Mike Williams is closer to prime Dez than Keenan Allen. Kind of athletic, but 0 route creativity, makes living off of running straight and making highlight reel contested back shoulder catches.
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Re: Mike Williams, Chargers

Postby whodunnit » Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:57 pm

bsp27 wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:34 pm
Tyrell >>>>>>>> Mike
Dylan Cantrell>>>>> Tyrell/Mike
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Re: Mike Williams, Chargers

Postby Novacane » Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:21 pm

GLSmk wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:57 pm
bsp27 wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:34 pm
Tyrell >>>>>>>> Mike
Dylan Cantrell>>>>> Tyrell/Mike
https://youtu.be/5HRY4LUl5lc

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Re: Mike Williams, Chargers

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:47 pm

nathanq42 wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:34 pm
I don't think they are similar at all...

Keenan Allen is closer to AB than to Mike Williams. Not terribly athletic but makes space with route running. Makes living off catching a ball in open space even though everyone knows he is the #1 receiving threat, and running for a few yards because he has that much space and time.

Mike Williams is closer to prime Dez than Keenan Allen. Kind of athletic, but 0 route creativity, makes living off of running straight and making highlight reel contested back shoulder catches.
AB is athletic. Quick twitch, and fast. Combine be damned, he came in from a smaller school and utilized the professional strength and conditioning program. Adjusting to a ball thrown off of where it was originally meant to be is pure athleticism. AB is most definitely athletic. Geez, listen to the Raider fan sticking up for a Steeler, what is the world coming to? Don't own him anywhere, either.
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Re: Mike Williams, Chargers

Postby hockeyBjj » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:49 am

I remember last year's Mike Williams thread. It was depressing. A few pages in I remember a chain of consecutive posts that about summed up his entire career since being drafted

-Mike Williams cleared to play, will dress and get snaps this Sunday

-Mike Williams carted off the field with apparent knee injury

-Mike Williams reportedly out for rest of year

Just, he got back after the initial injury and was hurt again before we even got a chance to get excited and see what the first round pick could do. I'd guess a lot of people don't even realize it wasn't a single season ending injury. His healthy blip was a single scantime
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Re: Mike Williams, Chargers

Postby nathanq42 » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:49 am

FantasyFreak wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:47 pm
nathanq42 wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:34 pm
I don't think they are similar at all...

Keenan Allen is closer to AB than to Mike Williams. Not terribly athletic but makes space with route running. Makes living off catching a ball in open space even though everyone knows he is the #1 receiving threat, and running for a few yards because he has that much space and time.

Mike Williams is closer to prime Dez than Keenan Allen. Kind of athletic, but 0 route creativity, makes living off of running straight and making highlight reel contested back shoulder catches.
AB is athletic. Quick twitch, and fast. Combine be damned, he came in from a smaller school and utilized the professional strength and conditioning program. Adjusting to a ball thrown off of where it was originally meant to be is pure athleticism. AB is most definitely athletic. Geez, listen to the Raider fan sticking up for a Steeler, what is the world coming to? Don't own him anywhere, either.
Oh yeah big time, his athleticism is evident by his disgusting yac and big play ability, but AB is the poster child for route running. I just couldn't think of one that is super productive and not an elite athlete.
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Re: Mike Williams, Chargers

Postby Fantasyfanatic11 » Wed Aug 22, 2018 10:56 am

Call me a homer but Mike Williams is going to have a huge year. This guy is catching all kinds of jump ball TD's.

When was the last time Philip Rivers had a legitimate jump ball receiver with draft pedigree? 2011 Vincent Jackson - 1100 yards & 9 TDs.
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