Charles and Gore for Foster?
Charles and Gore for Foster?
in one of my dynasty's i have been offered two trades.
me giving jamal charles and frank gore for arian foster
and
me giving matthew stafford for webb of the vikes and the 1.12
thoughts?
not sure charles will ever be the long term full time guy like Foster can be. and Gore...does he ever finish a season? still, it's two studs for one. just that Foster looked sensational last year.
as for stafford, i also have schaub and mcCoy
me giving jamal charles and frank gore for arian foster
and
me giving matthew stafford for webb of the vikes and the 1.12
thoughts?
not sure charles will ever be the long term full time guy like Foster can be. and Gore...does he ever finish a season? still, it's two studs for one. just that Foster looked sensational last year.
as for stafford, i also have schaub and mcCoy
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Re: Charles and Gore for Foster?
Not a big fan of either of those deals for you.
Not sure why Webb has any trade value, and Stafford has all the weapons to have a breakout year. If he's been on your roster this long I'd give him another season, he's worth more than 1.12 to me. Also, the gap between Foster and Charles isn't big enough to justify losing Gore in my opinion.
Not sure why Webb has any trade value, and Stafford has all the weapons to have a breakout year. If he's been on your roster this long I'd give him another season, he's worth more than 1.12 to me. Also, the gap between Foster and Charles isn't big enough to justify losing Gore in my opinion.
16 team 0.5 PPR IDP dynasty league. 5th Season.
QB: D. Brees, M. Stafford
RB: L. McCoy, D. Martin, J. Charles, R. Mendenhall, D. Wilson
WR: C. Johnson, H. Nicks, A. Green, J. Jones, R. Meachem
TE: J. Graham, J. Finley
DL: JPP, C. Johnson, J. Tuck
LB: S. Lee, J. Lauranaitis, C. McCarthy, J. Beason, D. Bishop,
CB: J. Haden, R. Sherman
S: P. Chung, M. Burnett, B. Pollard
2010-2012 Champ
QB: D. Brees, M. Stafford
RB: L. McCoy, D. Martin, J. Charles, R. Mendenhall, D. Wilson
WR: C. Johnson, H. Nicks, A. Green, J. Jones, R. Meachem
TE: J. Graham, J. Finley
DL: JPP, C. Johnson, J. Tuck
LB: S. Lee, J. Lauranaitis, C. McCarthy, J. Beason, D. Bishop,
CB: J. Haden, R. Sherman
S: P. Chung, M. Burnett, B. Pollard
2010-2012 Champ
Re: Charles and Gore for Foster?
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Re: Charles and Gore for Foster?
Wouldn't do either of those deals, the second deal with webb involved is just ridiculous, he has no real value at this point in my opinion.
The first trade, you are giving up way too much for a guy that has had one good year in the NFL. Charles is and will be the stud back in KC, no need to worry there, besides Ben Tate should be healthy and could cut into some of Foster's carries much like Thomas Jones.
The first trade, you are giving up way too much for a guy that has had one good year in the NFL. Charles is and will be the stud back in KC, no need to worry there, besides Ben Tate should be healthy and could cut into some of Foster's carries much like Thomas Jones.
14 Team PPR 1st Year(1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 2WR/RB/TE, 1K & Def) 9
QB:Brady,Tebow
RB: DMC,Hillis,Hardesty,Jacobs,Faulk
WR: Austin,Boldin,Floyd,Harvin,D.Nelson,Clayton,D.Alexander V. Brown,T.Smith
TE: Pettigrew,Gresham
12 Team 1st Year PPR(1QB, 2-3RB, 3-4WR, 1-2TE, 1 K &DEF) 10
QB: Rivers, Flacco, Ponder
RB: Foster, Peterson, Tate, Ridley, Ogbonnaya, Lumpkin
WR: Baldwin, Benn, Cruz, Doucet, Douglas, Evans, Jacoby, James and Julio Jones, J Nelson, D. Williams
TE: Cook, Gresham, Miller
QB:Brady,Tebow
RB: DMC,Hillis,Hardesty,Jacobs,Faulk
WR: Austin,Boldin,Floyd,Harvin,D.Nelson,Clayton,D.Alexander V. Brown,T.Smith
TE: Pettigrew,Gresham
12 Team 1st Year PPR(1QB, 2-3RB, 3-4WR, 1-2TE, 1 K &DEF) 10
QB: Rivers, Flacco, Ponder
RB: Foster, Peterson, Tate, Ridley, Ogbonnaya, Lumpkin
WR: Baldwin, Benn, Cruz, Doucet, Douglas, Evans, Jacoby, James and Julio Jones, J Nelson, D. Williams
TE: Cook, Gresham, Miller
Re: Charles and Gore for Foster?
No way would I consider the Stafford deal. Even though Detroit didn't draft any line help for him I can't but think they will shore it up in FA. Plus two more skill players through the draft. I think this might be a great year for fantasy owners of Stafford.
The Foster deal would depend on your lineup requirements and current roster. Being a Charles owner can be very frustrating with Haley's temperament.
The Foster deal would depend on your lineup requirements and current roster. Being a Charles owner can be very frustrating with Haley's temperament.
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Re: Charles and Gore for Foster?
I wouldnt give up Charles & Gore for Foster alone. You'd be getting the short end of the stick in a big way IMO
12 Team PPR QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, 2 RB/WR/TE, K, Def, 2 DB, 2 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB/DL/LB
QB RGIII, R Tannehill, J Cutler, K Cousins
RB TRich, J Charles, M Ingram, E Lacy, J Franklin, L James, K Hunter, K Barner, R Helu
WR Julio, Fitz, R Cobb, P Harvin, J Blackmon, A Jeffery, M Floyd, TJ Graham
TE A Hernandez, G Olsen
K C Barth
Def Bengals
DB M Barron, M Burnett, D McCourty, D Milliner, T Mathieu
DL C Jones, D Jordan, M Dareus, S Lotulelei
LB B Wagner, R Allen, P Riley, D Hightower, C Upshaw, K Alonso, M Te'o
QB RGIII, R Tannehill, J Cutler, K Cousins
RB TRich, J Charles, M Ingram, E Lacy, J Franklin, L James, K Hunter, K Barner, R Helu
WR Julio, Fitz, R Cobb, P Harvin, J Blackmon, A Jeffery, M Floyd, TJ Graham
TE A Hernandez, G Olsen
K C Barth
Def Bengals
DB M Barron, M Burnett, D McCourty, D Milliner, T Mathieu
DL C Jones, D Jordan, M Dareus, S Lotulelei
LB B Wagner, R Allen, P Riley, D Hightower, C Upshaw, K Alonso, M Te'o
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Re: Charles and Gore for Foster?
In my league, from week 6 - 16 Charles averaged 17.9 points per week, with only one week less than 13 points.northga wrote:...Being a Charles owner can be very frustrating with Haley's temperament.
As I Charles owner, I don't recall being frustrated.
16 team 0.5 PPR IDP dynasty league. 5th Season.
QB: D. Brees, M. Stafford
RB: L. McCoy, D. Martin, J. Charles, R. Mendenhall, D. Wilson
WR: C. Johnson, H. Nicks, A. Green, J. Jones, R. Meachem
TE: J. Graham, J. Finley
DL: JPP, C. Johnson, J. Tuck
LB: S. Lee, J. Lauranaitis, C. McCarthy, J. Beason, D. Bishop,
CB: J. Haden, R. Sherman
S: P. Chung, M. Burnett, B. Pollard
2010-2012 Champ
QB: D. Brees, M. Stafford
RB: L. McCoy, D. Martin, J. Charles, R. Mendenhall, D. Wilson
WR: C. Johnson, H. Nicks, A. Green, J. Jones, R. Meachem
TE: J. Graham, J. Finley
DL: JPP, C. Johnson, J. Tuck
LB: S. Lee, J. Lauranaitis, C. McCarthy, J. Beason, D. Bishop,
CB: J. Haden, R. Sherman
S: P. Chung, M. Burnett, B. Pollard
2010-2012 Champ
Re: Charles and Gore for Foster?
Charles is more stable than Foster. No. Pass. Thanks for stopping by.
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Re: Charles and Gore for Foster?
Really? Foster was the picture of stability last season.Misfit74 wrote:Charles is more stable than Foster. No. Pass. Thanks for stopping by.
Not just stability, like 20 points per week stability.
16 team 0.5 PPR IDP dynasty league. 5th Season.
QB: D. Brees, M. Stafford
RB: L. McCoy, D. Martin, J. Charles, R. Mendenhall, D. Wilson
WR: C. Johnson, H. Nicks, A. Green, J. Jones, R. Meachem
TE: J. Graham, J. Finley
DL: JPP, C. Johnson, J. Tuck
LB: S. Lee, J. Lauranaitis, C. McCarthy, J. Beason, D. Bishop,
CB: J. Haden, R. Sherman
S: P. Chung, M. Burnett, B. Pollard
2010-2012 Champ
QB: D. Brees, M. Stafford
RB: L. McCoy, D. Martin, J. Charles, R. Mendenhall, D. Wilson
WR: C. Johnson, H. Nicks, A. Green, J. Jones, R. Meachem
TE: J. Graham, J. Finley
DL: JPP, C. Johnson, J. Tuck
LB: S. Lee, J. Lauranaitis, C. McCarthy, J. Beason, D. Bishop,
CB: J. Haden, R. Sherman
S: P. Chung, M. Burnett, B. Pollard
2010-2012 Champ
Re: Charles and Gore for Foster?
Yes but the year before when he clearly should have been on the field more, Haley held his fumbleitis against him week in and week out. If that comes back with any significance, he will be standing on the sidelines again even though he is clearly the best back KC has.cleanwillyb wrote:In my league, from week 6 - 16 Charles averaged 17.9 points per week, with only one week less than 13 points.northga wrote:...Being a Charles owner can be very frustrating with Haley's temperament.
As I Charles owner, I don't recall being frustrated.
Re: Charles and Gore for Foster?
Ben Tate vs. Thomas Jones.cleanwillyb wrote:Really? Foster was the picture of stability last season.Misfit74 wrote:Charles is more stable than Foster. No. Pass. Thanks for stopping by.
Not just stability, like 20 points per week stability.
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Re: Charles and Gore for Foster?
To be fair, won't any coach hold "fumbleitis" against their running backs?
I believe Foster and Charles are elite, I wouldn't package anyone with either of them to get the other.
I believe Foster and Charles are elite, I wouldn't package anyone with either of them to get the other.
16 team 0.5 PPR IDP dynasty league. 5th Season.
QB: D. Brees, M. Stafford
RB: L. McCoy, D. Martin, J. Charles, R. Mendenhall, D. Wilson
WR: C. Johnson, H. Nicks, A. Green, J. Jones, R. Meachem
TE: J. Graham, J. Finley
DL: JPP, C. Johnson, J. Tuck
LB: S. Lee, J. Lauranaitis, C. McCarthy, J. Beason, D. Bishop,
CB: J. Haden, R. Sherman
S: P. Chung, M. Burnett, B. Pollard
2010-2012 Champ
QB: D. Brees, M. Stafford
RB: L. McCoy, D. Martin, J. Charles, R. Mendenhall, D. Wilson
WR: C. Johnson, H. Nicks, A. Green, J. Jones, R. Meachem
TE: J. Graham, J. Finley
DL: JPP, C. Johnson, J. Tuck
LB: S. Lee, J. Lauranaitis, C. McCarthy, J. Beason, D. Bishop,
CB: J. Haden, R. Sherman
S: P. Chung, M. Burnett, B. Pollard
2010-2012 Champ
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Re: Charles and Gore for Foster?
I'll believe it when I see it.Misfit74 wrote:Ben Tate vs. Thomas Jones.
16 team 0.5 PPR IDP dynasty league. 5th Season.
QB: D. Brees, M. Stafford
RB: L. McCoy, D. Martin, J. Charles, R. Mendenhall, D. Wilson
WR: C. Johnson, H. Nicks, A. Green, J. Jones, R. Meachem
TE: J. Graham, J. Finley
DL: JPP, C. Johnson, J. Tuck
LB: S. Lee, J. Lauranaitis, C. McCarthy, J. Beason, D. Bishop,
CB: J. Haden, R. Sherman
S: P. Chung, M. Burnett, B. Pollard
2010-2012 Champ
QB: D. Brees, M. Stafford
RB: L. McCoy, D. Martin, J. Charles, R. Mendenhall, D. Wilson
WR: C. Johnson, H. Nicks, A. Green, J. Jones, R. Meachem
TE: J. Graham, J. Finley
DL: JPP, C. Johnson, J. Tuck
LB: S. Lee, J. Lauranaitis, C. McCarthy, J. Beason, D. Bishop,
CB: J. Haden, R. Sherman
S: P. Chung, M. Burnett, B. Pollard
2010-2012 Champ
Re: Charles and Gore for Foster?
yes I would agree with you on that.cleanwillyb wrote:To be fair, won't any coach hold "fumbleitis" against their running backs?
I believe Foster and Charles are elite, I wouldn't package anyone with either of them to get the other.
There are so many variables, league starting lineup requirements, his current roster and scoring method to consider as in the league I play in Foster's points were nearly as much as Charles and Gores combined (and yes I know Gore suffered an injury but it was nearly at the end of the fantasy season). But if he has to start only one RB or he has Peterson/Johnson/Rice, etc and needs to start 2 RB it might very well be worth the risk.
Btw, I own both Foster (waiver wire pickup mid 2009 ) and Charles (traded NYJ def for him (early 2009 ).
Re: Charles and Gore for Foster?
I don't like either trade for you. Stafford, as much as he's been hurt, he is way more valuable than Joe WEbb and a very late round pick. As for you having Schaub and McCoy, I would rather have Stafford over McCoy any day.
As for the Charles and Gore for Foster?? Seriously? Maybe a good deal if it were 1 for 1, but 2 (present and past top 10 rb's) for 1? I hate Gore, but he is way more valuable than to be a throw-in on a trade with two top young RB's like Charles and Foster.
As for the Charles and Gore for Foster?? Seriously? Maybe a good deal if it were 1 for 1, but 2 (present and past top 10 rb's) for 1? I hate Gore, but he is way more valuable than to be a throw-in on a trade with two top young RB's like Charles and Foster.
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